U.S. Army Tells Soldiers Not To Say “Christmas”…

[Busybody]

U.S. Army Tells Soldiers Not To Say “Christmas”…
U.S. Army Tells Soldiers Not To Say “Christmas”…




PC on steroids.

Via Fox Nation:


Don’t say Christmas.

That’s the message that was conveyed to a group of soldiers at Camp Shelby by an equal opportunity officer from the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, according to a soldier who attended a recent briefing.

“It’s unbelievable that the Army would ban ‘Christmas’ like it’s a bad word,” said Michael Berry, an attorney with the Liberty Institute, a legal firm representing the unidentified soldier.

Two weeks ago, a routine meeting was held at the Mississippi base with various leaders of the 158th Infantry Brigade. During the meeting, they discussed an upcoming Christmas football tournament. The equal opportunity officer immediately objected to the usage of the word “Christmas.”

“Our equal opportunity representative stopped the briefing and told us that we can’t say Christmas,” the soldier told me. “Almost the entire room blew up. Everybody was frustrated. The equal opportunity rep told our commander that not everyone celebrates Christmas and we couldn’t say Christmas celebration. It had to be holiday celebration.”

The soldier said there was a brief, but heated discussion about political correctness. At one point, the equal opportunity representative tried to deflect the criticism by pointing out it was the Army’s rules – not hers.

 

[Busybody]

UNREAL: Texas Kids Make Christmas Cards For Veterans, VA Refuses To Take Them Because They Say “Merry Christmas”…




Are you f*cking kidding me?

Via Fox DFW:


They thought it was a kind holiday gesture, but dozens of Prosper students didn’t get to deliver the Christmas cards they made for local veterans because of a VA policy against specific religious cards and phrasing.

The cards are still in North Texas, and the writers are disappointed their thank you’s won’t be seen by the people they were intended for.

“I’m hoping that it might make their day because their family might live far away, and they might not have somebody to celebrate Christmas with and I’d like them to know they’ve not been forgotten and somebody wanted to say thank you,” said fourth grader Gracie Brown.

Gracie and her brother, Luke, put a lot of thought and effort into their Christmas cards.

“It includes ‘Merry Christmas,’ and when you open it up, it says ‘Thank you for your service’ and the American flag,” said Luke.

Fifty-two students at Grace Academy in Prosper spent Friday making the cards they planned to hand deliver to bedridden veterans at the VA hospital in Dallas Monday morning.

When Gracie and Luke’s mom, Andrea, found out they wouldn’t be able to, she was outraged.

“This wasn’t the country I grew up in, when you couldn’t say ‘Merry Christmas,’ you couldn’t say ‘God bless you’ or reference any scripture,” she said.

The cards were the idea of Susan Chapman, a math teacher at Grace Academy. She’s married to a veteran and volunteers with the American Legion and other veterans’ organizations.

“It really didn’t occur to me there would be a problem with distributing Christmas cards,” said Chapman.

 

[BotanyBoy]

God damn that pesky 1A....hate that fucking amendment don't you guys?

Wait is this a Duck Dynasty thread??

I'm confused is 1A evil socialism or patriotic freedom???

 

[Beco]

Its been proper to say, " Holiday" over the last decade or so. Holiday party instead of Christmas party, etc. Why not? What is wrong with that?

That said, let them say what they want....Christ sake

 

[Busybody]

Its been proper to say, " Holiday" over the last decade or so. Holiday party instead of Christmas party, etc. Why not? What is wrong with that?

That said, let them say what they want....Christ sake

what is the HOLIDAY?

 

[koalabear]

what is the HOLIDAY?

Gay Insurance day, and it was kicked off with 35 hour Duck Dynasty Marathon.

 

[Beco]

what is the HOLIDAY?

doesnt matter....what if I don't want to celebrate Christmas?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Its been proper to say, " Holiday" over the last decade or so. Holiday party instead of Christmas party, etc. Why not? What is wrong with that?

BS prefers religious privilege in government over the constitution.

That said, let them say what they want....Christ sake

It's not a private function, it's a function of the US military.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

In uniform? on base? unit function? No religion specific shit....end of discussion.

They want to have a religious specific celebration? They need to do it on their own time and on their own dime...no one is stopping them, because THAT would be a 1A violation.

what is the HOLIDAY?

Pick one...do you REALLY need them listed out? Oh wait Christmas is the ONLY holiday right BS?

 

[renard_ruse]

But, but, but, Bunny Slippers, according to most of the Lit GB crowd there "is no War on Christmas."

 

[BotanyBoy]

But, but, but, Bunny Slippers, according to most of the Lit GB crowd there "is no War on Christmas."

Just one on Christmas privilege.

 

[renard_ruse]

Its been proper to say, " Holiday" over the last decade or so. Holiday party instead of Christmas party, etc. Why not? What is wrong with that?

Its been proper in the last few months [years] for liberal Politically Correct apologists to turn the discussion bass ackwards to change the discussion from the outrageous crap they are doing and throw it back on their victims, such as you are attempting here.

THE ISSUE IS YOU BANNING CHRISTMAS (AND OTHER TRADITIONAL HOLIDAYS) AND YOU KNOW IT.

 

[BotanyBoy]

THE ISSUE IS YOU BANNING CHRISTMAS (AND OTHER TRADITIONAL HOLIDAYS) AND YOU KNOW IT.

Take it up with 1A bubba.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

The government has never been able to legally endorse any religious function.

Moron.

 

[renard_ruse]

What "holiday" is being referenced? Hanukah is over already, so that can't be it.

90% of Americans celebrate Christmas, many [most?] of them celebrate it as a cultural, not religious, holiday. There is no reason it should be censored from the public space, other than to create cultural transformation so the post-modernists can recreate society according to their own whims.

 

[renard_ruse]

Take it up with 1A bubba.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

The government has never been able to legally endorse any religious function.

Moron.

The above alt has become a waste of space. When the alt creator first came up with it, it was a pretty good representation of one type of Gen Y young person. At first, it was actually quite culturally perceptive, now its just a bore.

Oh, and I didn't read the "equal employment" trainer use the "religion" argument in the discussion. The argument seemed to be "diversity" (5 to 10% not celebrating a holiday means it needs to be purged from public view).

 

[Beco]

Its been proper in the last few months [years] for liberal Politically Correct apologists to turn the discussion bass ackwards to change the discussion from the outrageous crap they are doing and throw it back on their victims, such as you are attempting here.

THE ISSUE IS YOU BANNING CHRISTMAS (AND OTHER TRADITIONAL HOLIDAYS) AND YOU KNOW IT.

I am for banning Christmas....and other traditional holidays except Memorial Day and Labor Day, oh, and the 4th of July.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What "holiday" is being referenced? Hanukah is over already, so that can't be it.

Well it's not Christmas either so =P but for all the millions of religions out there most of them have a holiday within a week of the winter solstice, including Christianity.

90% of Americans celebrate Christmas, many [most?] of them celebrate it as a cultural, not religious, holiday.

Doesn't make it not a religious holiday and thus the celebration of a religious function the government can neither endorse or persecute. And it goes for all religious functions, so no one is waging a war on Christmas or Christians, just their perceived privilege entitling them to use the government to exclude everyone else .

So your whole "Ohhh I'm a victim!! Liburhuls waging war on Christians and our holidays wooooo woo wooo!!!" is total bullshit.

Welcome to equal treatment under the law as prescribed by the Constitution of these United States of America......bitch.

There is no reason it should be censored from the public space,

It's not being censored from public space, it's being censored from government sanction.

other than to create cultural transformation so the post-modernists can recreate society according to their own whims.

Social evolution......neither the majority nor the constitution approve of any religious privilege from the US Government. That includes Christianity. Deal with it.

 

[renard_ruse]

Just one on Christmas privilege.

Are you RobDumbSouth?

 

[renard_ruse]

Well it's not Christmas either so =P but for all the millions of religions out there most of them have a holiday within a week of the winter solstice, including Christianity.



Doesn't make it not a religious holiday and thus the celebration of a religious function the government can neither endorse or persecute. And it goes for all religious functions, so no one is waging a war on Christmas or Christians, just their perceived privilege entitling them to use the government to exclude everyone else .

So your whole "Ohhh I'm a victim!! Liburhuls waging war on Christians and our holidays wooooo woo wooo!!!" is total bullshit.

Welcome to equal treatment under the law as prescribed by the Constitution of these United States of America......bitch.



It's not being censored from public space, it's being censored from government sanction.



Social evolution......neither the majority nor the constitution approve of any religious privilege from the US Government. That includes Christianity. Deal with it.

On and on the angry blathering goes, without saying anything.

Nothing in the Constitution overrides the legal concept of reasonableness. Reasonableness is recurrent theme over and over in the law.

Its not reasonable to tell 90% of the population their most important cultural celebration is to be purged from the public, or even the government, space. A fringe within a small minority do not have the privilege to be sheltered from even seeing or hearing about the majority's culture. That's a fact. DEAL WITH IT.

 

[phrodeau]

Its been proper in the last few months [years] for liberal Politically Correct apologists to turn the discussion bass ackwards to change the discussion from the outrageous crap they are doing and throw it back on their victims, such as you are attempting here.

THE ISSUE IS YOU BANNING CHRISTMAS (AND OTHER TRADITIONAL HOLIDAYS) AND YOU KNOW IT.

Why do you keep pushing your religion in my face?

 

[BotanyBoy]

The above alt has become a waste of space. When the alt creator first came up with it, it was a pretty good representation of one type of Gen Y young person. At first, it was actually quite culturally perceptive, now its just a bore.

Alt of who?

Oh, and I didn't read the "equal employment" trainer use the "religion" argument in the discussion. The argument seemed to be "diversity" (5 to 10% not celebrating a holiday means it needs to be purged from public view).

IDC that's where it comes from.

Exactly, diversity means that as an official representative of the US government they are not allowed to exclude 5-10% of soldiers.

They must make it "Holiday" or "Season" so that EVERYONE is included. Not just Christians.

Sorry you don't like your official government endorsed Christian privilege being stripped away....but us post moderns aren't too fond of religious privilege in our government. Deal with it.

 

[renard_ruse]

Why do you keep pushing your religion in my face?

Because I love you.

 

[renard_ruse]

Alt of who?



IDC that's where it comes from.

Exactly, diversity means that as an official representative of the US government they are not allowed to exclude 5-10% of soldiers.

They must make it "Holiday" or "Season" so that EVERYONE is included. Not just Christians.

Sorry you don't like your official government endorsed Christian privilege being stripped away....but us post moderns aren't too fond of religious privilege in our government. Deal with it.

Christmas is a secular holiday dipshit.

Independence Day is offensive to a minority of people legally resident in the country. There are non-citizens in the US military. It could conceivably be "offensive" to a non-citizen to hear about Independence Day celebrations, in fact, I would think far more reasonable to think so than anyone but a hateful moron being "offended" by the word Christmas.

Are you as concerned that the government not mention Independence Day, instead of calling July 4th simply "holiday"?

 

[renard_ruse]

Alt of who?



IDC that's where it comes from.

Exactly, diversity means that as an official representative of the US government they are not allowed to exclude 5-10% of soldiers.

They must make it "Holiday" or "Season" so that EVERYONE is included. Not just Christians.

You are the one advocating a privilege for a small minority (<10%), in fact, for a fringe within a small minority, who for some reason have a hostility to Christmas. ANY holiday has a fringe who dislike it for some reason. Its not reasonable (nor democratic) to get rid of a holiday because a fringe has some stick up its ass about it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nothing in the Constitution overrides the legal concept of reasonableness. Reasonableness is recurrent theme over and over in the law.

So going off ALL the data it would be reasonable to confiscate ALL firearms and ban them from private ownership except under the strictest of regulations right?

RIGHT???

Its not reasonable to tell 90% of the population their most important cultural celebration is to be purged from the public, or even the government, space.

Yes it is, we don't live in a theocracy. The 1st thing we did when setting up our nation was to very explicitly prohibit the government from being one.

No one is stopping PRIVATE celebrations of any kind...fuck, we have naked orgies every winter round hyea, no one ever stops us. But the government can't endorse one religious celebration over another....so the Army could never host Winter Solstice celebrations for me and mine. You don't see me crying about it.

Your religion entitles you to no official special privilege in this nation, get over it.

A fringe within a small minority do not have the privilege to be sheltered from even seeing or hearing about the majority's culture. That's a fact. DEAL WITH IT.

No one is saying it does. No one is stopping business's and homes from Christmasing their ass's off.

But the US Gov and all the various forms it takes, cannot (or is not supposed to in some cases) endorse one religion over another. Your justification of popularity is absolutely irrelevant.

 

[miles]

There is no end to liberal stupidity.