murder site apartment juju

[CandiCame]

Look you knob jockey, we are referring to the ghost story-esc thing in this thread. Why don't you understand that? Have you eaten some spoiled meat or something?

For fuck sake.

And I'm telling you why that's bad. Please don't do it. At least not in regard to suicides. Because it causes people to die.

 

[Fata Morgana]

And I'm telling you why that's bad. Please don't do it. At least not in regard to suicides. Because it causes people to die.

Is this like that tape in The Ring? People will read my posts in here and go and top themselves in seven days?

 

[chillywilly2]

I don't think you know what a stereotype is.

I got this one

there's just 2 speakers, or there's surround sound for like movies with 6, and you can get quad/4 speaker systems, and then they had LP's, and 8 tracks, and cassettes...oh yeah, and subwoofers too

 

[IndieSnob]

Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes....

 

[Fata Morgana]

I guess it's better he's beating this particular drum than his dog.

 

[CandiCame]

Is this like that tape in The Ring? People will read my posts in here and go and top themselves in seven days?

It contributes to the overall culture of stigma for people who need treatment. So in a way, it's more like Ringu where the deaths were caused by that weird disease. Except the disease is ignorance and bigotry. And complete lack of empathy.

 

[Fata Morgana]

It contributes to the overall culture of stigma for people who need treatment. So in a way, it's more like Ringu where the deaths were caused by that weird disease. Except the disease is ignorance and bigotry. And complete lack of empathy.

Well this is my last post on this particular subject/thread.

I certainly have no doubts about your mental illness after reading you in this thread, you mad cunt.

 

[IndieSnob]

I guess it's better he's beating this particular drum than his dog.

You actually made me laugh for once.

Quick, while you're on a roll try to pronounce tortoise correctly.

 

[evesdream]

Fata's sudden and untimely departure has made me uncomfortable living in this thread.

 

[butters]

Yes, everyone who suffers from suicide has a mental illness. None of them are sad souls, that's the steriotype. I said that 90% suffer from depression. There are lots of other illnesses that cause suicide. No one does it because they're sad. There's literally never been a single case since the IRB started recording them. But the idea that there are is what causes people to commit suicide, rather than get help for their illness.

The other illnesses that are related to suicide are: bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, personality disorders (including borderline personality disorder or addictive personality disorder), anxiety disorders (including posttraumatic stress disorder and panic attacks) and eating disorders (including bulimia nervosa and anorexia nervosa). That's your other 10%.

Please stop shaming people and telling them that they are "just sad". This is the LEADING REASON people don't get treatment. This idea is the LEADING REASON that people die.

Keep in mind that all scientific studies operate on a z-score of .05% so there is a .05% that people might be "just sad". But there's a higher probability that you'll just burst into flames for no reason.

candi - i agree with you about stripping away the romanticised notions that to often accompany suicide. i also agree that too many suicides are carried out by the mentally ill whom, with the right help, might not have chosen that route. i don't agree all suicides are by mentally ill people: some are driven to it as a means of escape from circumstances they deem unbearable - such as revelations that would bring shame upon them or their family, inescapable debt and maybe the threats that can go with that, loss of a loved one meaning that they choose not to continue living without them, and terminal illness that means living with it is only prolonging life in a manner the person cannot bear.

what people (it seems to me) are talking about here, are how they would individually react to the knowledge and possible lingering 'vibes' of a sudden death in the close vicinity of their home. someone dying in my bedroom of a long and ugly illness would put me off just as much as a suicide, even if the only 'sadness' i felt was entirely generated within my own head and nothing at all to do with lingering miasmas of sorrow. however, if someone died peacefully, it may not have any great effect on me - i might even feel a little comforted by the knowledge.

 

[Laurel]

Fata's sudden and untimely departure has made me uncomfortable living in this thread.

'Sokay. She offed herself on the stairs in front of the thread, not in the thread itself.

 

[CandiCame]

candi - i agree with you about stripping away the romanticised notions that to often accompany suicide. i also agree that too many suicides are carried out by the mentally ill whom, with the right help, might not have chosen that route. i don't agree all suicides are by mentally ill people and that some are driven to it as a means of escape from circumstances they deem unbearable - such as revelations that would bring shame upon them or their family, inescapable debt and maybe the threats that can go with that, loss of a loved one meaning that they choose not to continue living without them, and terminal illness that means living with it is only prolonging life in a manner the person cannot bear.

what people (it seems to me) are talking about here, are how they would individually react to the knowledge and possible lingering 'vibes' of a sudden death in the close vicinity of their home. someone dying in my bedroom of a long and ugly illness would put me off just as much as a suicide, even if the only 'sadness' i felt was entirely generated within my own head and nothing at all to do with lingering miasmas of sorrow. however, if someone died peacefully, it may not have any great effect on me - i might even feel a little comforted by the knowledge.

And that's literally all I asked. That people who suffer from suicide be treated as people with an illness- so the emotional reaction should be the same.

But realistically, the type of suicide that you're talking about just doesn't happen in the US. Because, like I've stated before, if you're sad, you aren't suicidal. I already explained how that works. People think that folk can be driven to it in a moment of weakness because of the cultural phenomena that is dangerous to people who have the potential to kill themselves. And I feel like people deserve respect. That type of suicide is a thing in collectivist cultures, such as Japan, but it doesn't register on the radar here (like I said, it's less than .05% of cases). But the idea permeates our culture, and that idea leads people not to seek treatment, and so on, and so forth, and everything I've already said.

Having said that, what you're saying in your second paragraph I completely understand.

 

[CandiCame]

Again, it's not like there isn't a whole slew of studies to back up what I'm talking about:

http://jech.bmj.com/content/59/8/619.short

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0140673604160431?via=sd&cc=y

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033318299712673

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.94.3.446?journalCode=ajph

http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/172/1/35.short

I mean, there's not any dissent at all. I don't know what else to say about it.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

"French provincial sofa, unknown exact age, has been recovered.
Have extra fabric crack in leg. Very nice shape.
Hate to see it go. Wife hates it. Has been appraised at 5000.00.
Reserve much lower. Very nice piece."

http://www.thehorrorzine.com/Lizzie%20Borden/Andrew%20dead%201.jpg

http://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/BAhbB1sHOgZmSSJGdXBsb2Fkcy9wbGFjZV9pbWFnZXMvZjgyNDA0YzA0M2I2Y2M4ZDkyMWVjYzIxMjZhOTlhZTZiYTFhMzdiNy5qcGcGOgZFVFsIOgZwOgp0aHVtYkkiCngzODA+BjsGRg/f82404c043b6cc8d921ecc2126a99ae6ba1a37b7.jpg

 

[rosco rathbone]

Back when I owned a few rental properties, I had one prospective tenant insist on inserting a clause into the standard lease that allowed her to move out with zero notice in the event of "evil or malevolent spirits".

Ummm....no.

A reasonable request in principle, the problem is finding legal language that covers evil spirits in clear terms.

 

[evesdream]

A reasonable request in principle, the problem is finding legal language that covers evil spirits in clear terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stambovsky_v._Ackley

 

[eyer]

Listen to your spirit, evesdream...



[Really, I just wanted to post so I could look up ^^...

...and cherish the view.]

 

[lovetoread]

'Sokay. She offed herself on the stairs in front of the thread, not in the thread itself.

I lol'd.

Ghosts are everywhere. Especially when one is murdered, no matter where it happened.

 

[Killswitch]

Oh fuck. I read a fata post.

 

[CandiCame]

http://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/BAhbB1sHOgZmSSJGdXBsb2Fkcy9wbGFjZV9pbWFnZXMvZjgyNDA0YzA0M2I2Y2M4ZDkyMWVjYzIxMjZhOTlhZTZiYTFhMzdiNy5qcGcGOgZFVFsIOgZwOgp0aHVtYkkiCngzODA+BjsGRg/f82404c043b6cc8d921ecc2126a99ae6ba1a37b7.jpg

This is exactly what I was thinking. It's super weird that a death on a property can be a negative selling point in the states. Put the word "haunted" into Google and you get people who want to take your money on the chances you might see a ghost.

http://www.travelocity.com/Promotions/0,,TRAVELOCITY%7C6783%7Cmkt_haunted_hotels%7C,00.html

 

[Colonel Hogan]

This is exactly what I was thinking. It's super weird that a death on a property can be a negative selling point in the states. Put the word "haunted" into Google and you get people who want to take your money on the chances you might see a ghost.

http://www.travelocity.com/Promotions/0,,TRAVELOCITY%7C6783%7Cmkt_haunted_hotels%7C,00.html

I think they should call it "Lizzie Borden Bed & (lose your) Breakfast."

 

[CandiCame]

I think they should call it "Lizzie Borden Bed & (lose your) Breakfast."

Hey, she was never found guilty.

When you tour the Bathory castle you know for a fact some fucked-up shit went down there.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Hey, she was never found guilty.

When you tour the Bathory castle you know for a fact some fucked-up shit went down there.

The fact that Lizzie was never found guilty doesn't exactly contradict the fact that some pretty fucked-up shit went down in her house, too.