I found this after an e-mail.

[3113]

Obama got in because after Two Terms under Bush it was "anyone but the Republicans"

So anyone with that mentality gets what they deserve.

Personally, I'm delighted with what that way of thinking brought me. So much so that I plan to stick to it. Obama rather than republicans? No brainer there. Why should I return this country to the party that destroyed it and is continuing to destroy it? No thanks.

There is absolutely nothing about Obama, what he is or what he's done (or hasn't done) that scares me more than what the republicans (run by the tea party and Christian right) are doing right now. Like, for example, the way Texas lawmakers have removed Jefferson and all lessons on slavery from school text books. Like Arizona law, passed by and signed in by republicans, that establishes conception as starting two weeks before a woman's period--that's right, no sperm required. Like forcing science teachers to teach Creationism, trying to take away laws that protect us from poison in our food and water, like voter i.d. laws that keep the elderly from voting, etc. etc. etc.

These things are terrifying. Those stupid questions regarding Obama in that bullshit letter--which can only be swallowed if you're completely clueless on the topic of logical fallacies (i.e. stone stupid)...even if they weren't total bullshit, they still wouldn't scare me as much as what I'm seeing republicans actually doing. For real.

I would not vote for a republican these days if he was marching in a gay pride parade, a card carrying member of the ACLU and donating money to Planned Parenthood.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/610/img/photos/2012/04/23/0b/8d/ObamaDebt.jpg

 

[Safe_Bet]

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/610/img/photos/2012/04/23/0b/8d/ObamaDebt.jpg

Seriously, dude???


Do I REALLY need to say how that $6.4+ billion in debt was the consequence of republican wars, waste and pork barrel spending under the Bush administration?

Do I really need to point out that FACT? (or that you are THAT stupid?)

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Seriously, dude???


Do I REALLY need to say how that $6.4+ billion in debt was the consequence of republican wars, waste and pork barrel spending under the Bush administration?

Do I really need to point out that FACT? (or that you are THAT stupid?)

So after four years you're still blaming Bush. Talk about stupid.

 

[Safe_Bet]

So after four years you're still blaming Bush. Talk about stupid.

Yup. If you weren't such a doltish libertariantard, and actually studies economics, you'd know that the debt tsunami is just one of the four that will/have hit this country and that were CLEARLY caused by Bush era financial, banking, energy and trade policies.

That you WON'T even look and instead prefer to keep repeating that inane bleating of the tea party sheeple ("anyone but Obama") just proves what a moron you are, dude.

 

[sr71plt]

Zeb's post doesn't really say who added what to the total debt (even though the debt adding is done by Congress, not the president). How much debt was added in the Bush two terms and how much in Obama's one term--or more correctly, how much under Republican-controlled congresses and how much under Democratic-controlled congresses during these administrations, respectively?

I don't know, but these are the actual questions that Zeb doesn't seem to realize need to be asked on this topic for there to be any relevant comparisons.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Personally, I'm delighted with what that way of thinking brought me. So much so that I plan to stick to it. Obama rather than republicans? No brainer there. Why should I return this country to the party that destroyed it and is continuing to destroy it? No thanks.

There is absolutely nothing about Obama, what he is or what he's done (or hasn't done) that scares me more than what the republicans (run by the tea party and Christian right) are doing right now. Like, for example, the way Texas lawmakers have removed Jefferson and all lessons on slavery from school text books. Like Arizona law, passed by and signed in by republicans, that establishes conception as starting two weeks before a woman's period--that's right, no sperm required. Like forcing science teachers to teach Creationism, trying to take away laws that protect us from poison in our food and water, like voter i.d. laws that keep the elderly from voting, etc. etc. etc.

These things are terrifying. Those stupid questions regarding Obama in that bullshit letter--which can only be swallowed if you're completely clueless on the topic of logical fallacies (i.e. stone stupid)...even if they weren't total bullshit, they still wouldn't scare me as much as what I'm seeing republicans actually doing. For real.

I would not vote for a republican these days if he was marching in a gay pride parade, a card carrying member of the ACLU and donating money to Planned Parenthood.

Have those laws actually been passed? I know sometimes legislators of all parties propose bills to play to some of their constituents, and sometimes they propose amendments to bills for similar reasons, but did those laws you cite actually get passed?

ETA: This one hasn't; let's see about the others. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Educat...book-war-Slavery-or-Atlantic-triangular-trade

The AZ law, which was proposed and sponsored by a woman, apparently is law, althugh ridiculous law: http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.co...-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

The others are too vague to look up. I am a senior citizen, although I prefer to be called a dirty old man, and I have never been prevented from voting.

 

[lovecraft68]

Personally, I'm delighted with what that way of thinking brought me. So much so that I plan to stick to it. Obama rather than republicans? No brainer there. Why should I return this country to the party that destroyed it and is continuing to destroy it? No thanks.

There is absolutely nothing about Obama, what he is or what he's done (or hasn't done) that scares me more than what the republicans (run by the tea party and Christian right) are doing right now. Like, for example, the way Texas lawmakers have removed Jefferson and all lessons on slavery from school text books. Like Arizona law, passed by and signed in by republicans, that establishes conception as starting two weeks before a woman's period--that's right, no sperm required. Like forcing science teachers to teach Creationism, trying to take away laws that protect us from poison in our food and water, like voter i.d. laws that keep the elderly from voting, etc. etc. etc.

These things are terrifying. Those stupid questions regarding Obama in that bullshit letter--which can only be swallowed if you're completely clueless on the topic of logical fallacies (i.e. stone stupid)...even if they weren't total bullshit, they still wouldn't scare me as much as what I'm seeing republicans actually doing. For real.

I would not vote for a republican these days if he was marching in a gay pride parade, a card carrying member of the ACLU and donating money to Planned Parenthood.

Well if a republican did all those things you just ended your post with, either it would be a staged act, or he would be shot and killed by his party.

Having said that, I have serious issues with O'bama and sadly will probably end up not voting so I don;t feel personally responsible for either of the losers that will do nothing but continue to bring this country to its knees.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

All righty...here's some good talking points for those of you who think Obama should be re-elected.

• How about a job? About 15 million Americans of working age have no job and are looking for work.
  
• Every fifth man in America is out of a job.
  
• Fewer Jobs. There are 5.5 million fewer jobs right now than there were when Obama was inaugurated.
  
• Employment Levels. Employment has been below the pre-recession peak for over 50 consecutive months.
  
• U3 Unemployment Stats. This is the 8.2% figure quoted by Obama for last month. This counts only people who have applied for a job in the previous four weeks.
  
• U6 Unemployment Stats. This figure counts the number of people who have applied for jobs in the previous 6 weeks. It also includes people who are working in part-time jobs who want to work full time. The U6 unemployment rate is now around 15%
  
• College Graduates In 2007 90% of all college graduates found a job. Today that figure is 56%.
  
• Nearly 87 million Americans are NOT in the labor force.
  
• Dropping Out. Since Obama was sworn in about 3 million people have dropped out of the jobs market. These people are no longer even bothering to look for a job. If they were still in the market – still hopeful – the unemployment rate would be about 10.8%.
  
• Economic Growth after Great Depression. In 1934, 35 and 36 our economy growed at 11%, 9% and 13%. Economic growth in 2010 was 3%. In 2011 it was 1.7%. This year we’re running between 2 and 3%.
  
• Ethnic Jobless Rates. For young workers 20 to 24 the unemployment rate is 13%. For Hispanic teenagers it’s 30.5%. For black teenagers it’s 37.9%.
  
• Private Sector Hiring. Through June of 2011 private sector hiring was 10 times slower after the passage of ObamaCare than it was in the 16 months prior to ObamaCare.
  
• New Businesses. We need 1 million new businesses every year to sustain growth. We’re running about 400,000 right now.
  
• Layoffs and Hiring. In the first months of 2012 layoffs have risen 18% from a year ago. Hiring plans have dropped 82%.
  
• Per Capita Income. In May of 2008 per capital income in the U.S. was at $37,752. It’s now at $37,606. Adjust this for inflation and you have $36,641 in 2008 dropping to $32,600 now. This is the first time since the 1930s that inflation-adjusted incomes have decreased in America.
  
• Welfare Over $1 trillion spent on government entitlement programs in the last two years.
  
• Welfare Increase A 5,500% jump in means tested welfare since 1970.
  Welfare percentage Over ½ of households in America have someone receiving entitlement checks.
  
• Food Stamps Under Obama food stamp use has increased by 41%.
  
• Every 7th person you pass on the sidewalk is on food stamps.
  
• EBT Cards: The increase in the use of EBT cards is 135%.

Out of curiosity, do you watch fox news?

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201201130008#.T5oQeD2Q9Ww.facebook

 

[sr71plt]

It really doesn't matter. Zeb (and others) remain clueless that little has gotten done because the Republican-controlled Congress won't cooperate/engage with the administration on getting much of anything done. It takes some semblance of cooperation to progress toward any of the issues facing us. The first half of his administration Obama spent trying to find workable compromises with the Republicans. The Republicans were having none of that, though, and Obama's liberal support disintegrated--but, alas for the Republicans, not enough to make him look like an inferior choice against anyone the Republicans or Tea Baggers can put up.

What the Republicans are hoping is that, in November, the voters will be fooled into thinking this is because of what the administration didn't get done. (Which is kind of funny, because most of those who are like Zeb claim they don't want the government doing anything.) I'm sure dummies like Zeb will be convinced by the Republican strategy--and maybe others, as well. I won't be, though.

I know why nothing's getting done. And I'll vote accordingly. And Zeb and company can do as much yammering in the meantime that they want. I can just laugh that they are so impotent that they have to do it on a porn discussion board.

 

[Boxlicker101]

It really doesn't matter. Zeb (and others) remain clueless that little has gotten done because the Republican-controlled Congress won't cooperate/engage with the administration on getting much of anything done. It takes some semblance of cooperation to progress toward any of the issues facing us. The first half of his administration Obama spent trying to find workable compromises with the Republicans. The Republicans were having none of that, though, and Obama's liberal support disintegrated--but, alas for the Republicans, not enough to make him look like an inferior choice against anyone the Republicans or Tea Baggers can put up.

What the Republicans are hoping is that, in November, the voters will be fooled into thinking this is because of what the administration didn't get done. (Which is kind of funny, because most of those who are like Zeb claim they don't want the government doing anything.) I'm sure dummies like Zeb will be convinced by the Republican strategy--and maybe others, as well. I won't be, though.

I know why nothing's getting done. And I'll vote accordingly. And Zeb and company can do as much yammering in the meantime that they want. I can just laugh that they are so impotent that they have to do it on a porn discussion board.

You know, don't you, the Dems controlled both houses of Congress for the four years preceding 2011. The problem may have been they were too preoccupied with ramming Obamacare down our throats to get anything else done between 2009 and 2011.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Yup. If you weren't such a doltish libertariantard, and actually studies economics, you'd know that the debt tsunami is just one of the four that will/have hit this country and that were CLEARLY caused by Bush era financial, banking, energy and trade policies.

That you WON'T even look and instead prefer to keep repeating that inane bleating of the tea party sheeple ("anyone but Obama") just proves what a moron you are, dude.

And dolts like you who worship at the feet of the messiah...oh wait you're probably on some government program that pays you to worship the great ruler.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Zeb's post doesn't really say who added what to the total debt (even though the debt adding is done by Congress, not the president). How much debt was added in the Bush two terms and how much in Obama's one term--or more correctly, how much under Republican-controlled congresses and how much under Democratic-controlled congresses during these administrations, respectively?

I don't know, but these are the actual questions that Zeb doesn't seem to realize need to be asked on this topic for there to be any relevant comparisons.

Congress may pass the laws/bills which require additional money to be spent and / or borrowed, but the President still has the responsibility of signing the bill before it becomes law. So what was your point again?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Out of curiosity, do you watch fox news?

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201201130008#.T5oQeD2Q9Ww.facebook

No I don't.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It really doesn't matter. Zeb (and others) remain clueless that little has gotten done because the Republican-controlled Congress won't cooperate/engage with the administration on getting much of anything done. It takes some semblance of cooperation to progress toward any of the issues facing us. The first half of his administration Obama spent trying to find workable compromises with the Republicans. The Republicans were having none of that, though, and Obama's liberal support disintegrated--but, alas for the Republicans, not enough to make him look like an inferior choice against anyone the Republicans or Tea Baggers can put up.

What the Republicans are hoping is that, in November, the voters will be fooled into thinking this is because of what the administration didn't get done. (Which is kind of funny, because most of those who are like Zeb claim they don't want the government doing anything.) I'm sure dummies like Zeb will be convinced by the Republican strategy--and maybe others, as well. I won't be, though.

I know why nothing's getting done. And I'll vote accordingly. And Zeb and company can do as much yammering in the meantime that they want. I can just laugh that they are so impotent that they have to do it on a porn discussion board.

Again...the garbage spewith forth from the toad stool of humanity.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Why is it that fuckups or inaction when a Rep. is POTUS is blaimed on him while fuckups or inaction while a Dem. is POTUS are blamed on Congress, even when the Dems control both houses besides the presidency?

 

[sr71plt]

Congress may pass the laws/bills which require additional money to be spent and / or borrowed, but the President still has the responsibility of signing the bill before it becomes law. So what was your point again?

Wow, that was brilliant.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Why is it that fuckups or inaction when a Rep. is POTUS is blaimed on him while fuckups or inaction while a Dem. is POTUS are blamed on Congress, even when the Dems control both houses besides the presidency?

Because the Dem. don't know shit about politics.

http://www.people-press.org/2012/04/11/what-the-public-knows-about-the-political-parties/

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Wow, that was brilliant.

An you ain't.

 

[sr71plt]

Why is it that fuckups or inaction when a Rep. is POTUS is blaimed on him while fuckups or inaction while a Dem. is POTUS are blamed on Congress, even when the Dems control both houses besides the presidency?

A. It isn't. Your premise is false.

B. Because people like you need to find someone else to blame other than yourself?

(Was this a trick question? )

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Why is it that fuckups or inaction when a Rep. is POTUS is blaimed on him while fuckups or inaction while a Dem. is POTUS are blamed on Congress, even when the Dems control both houses besides the presidency?

A. It isn't. Your premise is false.

B. Because people like you need to find someone else to blame other than yourself?

(Was this a trick question? )

Did you actually read your Post 60?

 

[sr71plt]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Why is it that fuckups or inaction when a Rep. is POTUS is blaimed on him while fuckups or inaction while a Dem. is POTUS are blamed on Congress, even when the Dems control both houses besides the presidency?



Did you actually read your Post 60?

More to the point is whether you actually understood any of it. But, I'm not walzing down this path with you. You're a total waste of time and effort.

 

[Boxlicker101]

More to the point is whether you actually understood any of it. But, I'm not walzing down this path with you. You're a total waste of time and effort.

I didn't actually believe you would answer.

 

[sr71plt]

I didn't actually believe you would answer.

Whereas I knew you'd go into your usual juggling act.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I didn't actually believe you would answer.

Of course he wasn't...SR suffers from selective assinhymers. Shit spews out of his pie-hole and it is promptly forgotten. Even when you quote it for him, his selective blindness to the shit he spouts prohibits him from seeing what he just typed.

In the 6 years he's been around he has never given a straight (no pun intended) answer to anyone.