Erotic Asphyxiation: The dangers and alternatives

[CarrotandStick]

So my girlfriend enjoys being choked. Often to the point of actual blackout so I can enjoy her limp body (after ensuring that her breathing is regular).

However, I've been doing some reading and have severely underestimated the dangers to her health that are involved. I'm now quite panicked and profoundly glad that nothing has gone wrong so far.

My question to the community is this: Is there a safe alternative that provides the same effect? Can you suggest forms of D/s play that might give her (and me) the same enjoyment? I've been investigating rope play as a starting point.

I've already determined to speak to her about it; what she gets out of it, how it makes her feel emotionally and physically and what she thinks I get out of it. Communication, communication, communication. =)

Thanks for the advice in advance.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

"Her limp body"? Jesus fuck. Yeah, I can see panic being a viable option for you.

Another thread discussed this recently. Take a look there.

 

[CarrotandStick]

"Her limp body"? Jesus fuck. Yeah, I can see panic being a viable option for you.

She's a biomed major specialising in human anatomy, so I trusted her when she said that was allowed. I enjoy it intensely, but there's always the little worried me that insists on making sure she's okay before anything else. =)

Another thread discussed this recently. Take a look there.

Reading the further linked-on discussion about "edgeplay" now.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Blackouts however induced are not so good.

Immobilizing her with bondage might be exactly what you want. Might even be more fun for her too, since she will be aware of what's going on but unable to respond in any way-- you can speak about her as if she's unconscious, that objectification might ring her bells.

You might try a mummification scene.

 

[CarrotandStick]

Blackouts however induced are not so good.

Immobilizing her with bondage might be exactly what you want. Might even be more fun for her too, since she will be aware of what's going on but unable to respond in any way-- you can speak about her as if she's unconscious, that objectification might ring her bells.

You might try a mummification scene.

Possibilities. More fodder for Google at any rate. She's very good at and enjoys playing roles, so maybe a faked paralysis or lack of movement could work. =)
Crap! That's what I forgot to buy today at the shops! Rope! *facepalm*

 

[Stella_Omega]

Possibilities. More fodder for Google at any rate. She's very good at and enjoys playing roles, so maybe a faked paralysis or lack of movement could work. =)
Crap! That's what I forgot to buy today at the shops! Rope! *facepalm*

You can wrap her in Duct tape-- over something, like t-shirts and nylon hose, or plastic wrap for food-- which gets incredibly hot and stifling.

 

[KoPilot]

Maybe some sensory deprivation to simulate unconsciousness too? Or just duct tape over her mouth and a blindfold so she can't say or see anything as you carry on? And just my two cents, but being talked at as though I were unconscious during all this sounds really hot.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Saw the kind of lame remake of 70s Bronson hitman classic "The Mechanic" the other day.

At one point, Jason Statham strangles a guy with a belt and then hangs him from a coathook and sets his laptop to a porn site to make it look like an "autoerotic asphyxiation" suicide. However, he did not remove his penis from his boxers.

That's the first thing I would have noticed if I were a homicide detective. No sperm. Cock in, not out. Victim was a known arms trafficker and probably had powerful enemies....

 

[catalina_francisco]

You can wrap her in Duct tape-- over something, like t-shirts and nylon hose, or plastic wrap for food-- which gets incredibly hot and stifling.

Though a cautionary measure might be to check for severe allergies to duct tape, or plastic food wrap. I have allergies to all such things including band-aids, with plastic food wrap being horrendous and leaving me suffering in a not good way for several days afterward.

Catalina

 

[DVS]

I'd also be concerned that, while her breathing might be regular, her brain could be dead from a lack of sufficient blood and oxygen. 99% of the time, everything comes out fine. That 1% might seem small, but is it worth the risk?

While I don't enjoy this particular fetish, I can understand the thrill. In the kinky world of sex, there are acts the mind finds sexy, that the body can't carry out without taking some risk. And there are times when that risk is part of the desire.

But, because risk can sometimes end badly, role play and simulated acts are a way to stay safe. Find a way to simulate your kink, so you can be assured of a safe, kinky time.

 

[Etoile]

So my girlfriend enjoys being choked. Often to the point of actual blackout so I can enjoy her limp body (after ensuring that her breathing is regular).

However, I've been doing some reading and have severely underestimated the dangers to her health that are involved. I'm now quite panicked and profoundly glad that nothing has gone wrong so far.

My question to the community is this: Is there a safe alternative that provides the same effect? Can you suggest forms of D/s play that might give her (and me) the same enjoyment? I've been investigating rope play as a starting point.

I've already determined to speak to her about it; what she gets out of it, how it makes her feel emotionally and physically and what she thinks I get out of it. Communication, communication, communication. =)

Thanks for the advice in advance.

You're right to be panicked, this IS dangerous edgeplay, and it CAN kill her. That doesn't mean you can't engage in it at all, however.

I'm very much into being choked, but have never gone to the point of blacking out. Only once did I ever even feel slightly woozy. A hand on my throat gets me totally wet, but it only takes a little bit of pressure. The "safe" way to practice choking is to only go so far as to make her breathing a bit labored.

See, for me, it's more about the possibility that it could go further. I know that if my breathing is labored, then that hand is in the right place, and if its owner wanted to, I could be in the realm of danger. I trust that it won't happen, because ruining your toys is dumb. But...it could.

Now, maybe that's not what trips your girlfriend's button. But it might be a middle ground between "no choking" and "high risk of killing her" that you could find. You are responsible for deciding when she's choked "enough" and at what point you should stop. Just...choke her a "little" instead of all the way.

Never use ligatures, BTW. You can't monitor her as closely with a ligature (belt, rope, etc) as you can with your hand.

 

[cromsgirl]

I definitely agree with Etoile. I've only gotten a little woozy too, but we shortly discovered the dangers inherent in this type of play. My Hubby switched to putting pressure on the muscles on the outside of my neck and letting the web of his hand just touch the front of my throat. It doesn't restrict breathing or blood flow, but gives the threat of it, which totally gets me hot. Of course just sitting here reading and writing about choking has gotten me all wet. Wonder if Hubby has a few minutes

 

[subish2009]

Agreed, with everyone. This is incredibly dangerous play, but I totally get the appeal. There's something about him slamming me up against the wall by the throat, the glare, the rumbling growl, and just that slight pressure... It's intimidating enough without me actually blacking out.

My husband has become unhappy with me for my tendency to restrict my own breathing too much as I get more riled up. I hold my breath too long, fight against him to keep his cock in my mouth too long... It's led to punitive actions.

Seriously, be careful. You'll find a way to keep the kink element while knowing you're both safe.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Never use ligatures, BTW. You can't monitor her as closely with a ligature (belt, rope, etc) as you can with your hand.

Plus it takes a lot longer to untie something than it does to simply let go.

*nods*

I've been to the point of blacking out once. It was the strangest feeling. It was only a few seconds but it was weird.