Online Safety Act (UK)

[Saltfountain]

. Is geoblocking easy to prove or will they take it on trust?

Idk, but Discord is blocking naughty pics for Brits that yanks can still see

 

[Susurration]

Apparently Discord already have to age verify to see naughty pics...

Including in servers...

Idk, but Discord is blocking naughty pics for Brits that yanks can still see

This has happened to me as well as a number of other people that I know and the third party that Discord has hired to check ages has opted for the most instrusive forms of ID verification possible.

Anyway, there is still no answer as to what will happen here and it will be 25 July in the UK in fifty minutes, so I'd best start posting my goodbye message somewhere in case.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

has opted for the most instrusive forms of ID verification possible.

Sooner or later, people are going to figure out what this is really all about.

 

[Arcadia]

I'm optimistic the age verification requirement from the UK Online Safety Act will not apply to Literotica because there is a specific carve-out for text-only pornography in the law, from what I can tell (others can feel free to Google it too, but that seems to be the case unless I'm missing something, which is certainly possible). Here's the guidance from Ofcom, the UK regulator: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets...blishing-pornographic-content-online?v=393629

Relevant section:​

What pornographic content falls outside of Part 5?​

3.8 Not all pornographic content is included under the definition of regulated provider​

pornographic content. The following content is expressly excluded:​

i) Pornographic content that is user-generated content in relation to an internet​

service; ​

ii) Pornographic content that-​

• consists only of text, or​

• consists only of text accompanied by –​

> a GIF which is not itself pornographic content,​

> an emoji or other symbol, or​

> a combination of (i) and (ii);​

Lit already purged nude images (in response to these kinds of laws, I think) but audio content is included as "in scope" in the UK law, which could lead to complications, but I'm also just a person on the internet, so what do I know.

Nope, everything I said is wrong (except that I might be missing something haha). See post below by @OverconfidentSarcasm

 

[Saltfountain]

Well, the apocalypse didn't arrive today...

As you were people

 

[Quimpossibility]

I'm optimistic the age verification requirement from the UK Online Safety Act will not apply to Literotica because there is a specific carve-out for text-only pornography in the law, from what I can tell (others can feel free to Google it too, but that seems to be the case unless I'm missing something, which is certainly possible). Here's the guidance from Ofcom, the UK regulator: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets...blishing-pornographic-content-online?v=393629

Relevant section:​

What pornographic content falls outside of Part 5?​

3.8 Not all pornographic content is included under the definition of regulated provider​

pornographic content. The following content is expressly excluded:​

i) Pornographic content that is user-generated content in relation to an internet​

service;​

ii) Pornographic content that-​

• consists only of text, or​

• consists only of text accompanied by –​

> a GIF which is not itself pornographic content,​

> an emoji or other symbol, or​

> a combination of (i) and (ii);​

Lit already purged nude images (in response to these kinds of laws, I think) but audio content is included as "in scope" in the UK law, which could lead to complications, but I'm also just a person on the internet, so what do I know.

I thought audio content was one of the things that was covered so I don't understand what 'in scope' means otherwise.

It also has pictures. There are illustrated stories, or have those been purged.

Furthermore the site has, or links to at least, cam content.

I guess the site owners know best

 

[Saltfountain]

I thought audio content was one of the things that was covered so I don't understand what 'in scope' means otherwise.

It also has pictures. There are illustrated stories, or have those been purged.

Furthermore the site has, or links to at least, cam content.

I guess the site owners know best

Lit does not host nude pics (although they're doing a shit job of removing nude AVs) and it doesn't host audio

 

[Quimpossibility]

Besides what does
i) Pornographic content that is user-generated content in relation to an internet
service;

mean?

Surely that's all such content, right?

 

[Arcadia]

Besides what does
i) Pornographic content that is user-generated content in relation to an internet
service;

mean?

Surely that's all such content, right?

My understanding, which is admittedly limited, is that this refers to platforms including search engines and "user-to-user" apps/sites like Discord where users can share pornographic content directly with other users. The distinction there is that the pornographic content isn't created or curated by the site. They're subject to a different part of the law (Part 3) that has a different set of requirements which also includes age verification along with a slew of other things that got too complicated for me to want to parse too much

Nope, everything I said is wrong, see post below by @OverconfidentSarcasm

 

[Adrian69702006]

It all sounds very complicated. I know of at least one AI chat site which has simply resorted to blocking UK users because it doesn't have the resources to navigate the complexities of the Online Safety Act or its verification requirements. There will, I suspect, be other sites which do the same if they can only command limited resources.

 

[spankmytentacle]

EDIT: I mistook this (UK-specific) thread for a thread about the more general anti-porn clampdown that's sweeping the West because of Visa and Mastercard. Mea Culpa.

The one thing that would solve all of these problems (at least for services outside the UK - sorry) is for someone to stand up a payment provider that will accept these kinds of content. Visa and Mastercard have effectively created a worldwide monopoly and they are dictating terms to all the world's governments. Seems kind of... backwards.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

My understanding, which is admittedly limited, is that this refers to platforms including search engines and "user-to-user" apps/sites like Discord where users can share pornographic content directly with other users. The distinction there is that the pornographic content isn't created or curated by the site. They're subject to a different part of the law (Part 3) that has a different set of requirements which also includes age verification along with a slew of other things that got too complicated for me to want to parse too much

It's not "User-to-user" in the sense of p2p. It's more in the sense of "User-FOR-user". Content created by users, shared through the service for other users. Or, as it the case here, stories written by users, shared with visitors of the platform.

 

[Arcadia]

It's not "User-to-user" in the sense of p2p. It's more in the sense of "User-FOR-user". Content created by users, shared through the service for other users. Or, as it the case here, stories written by users, shared with visitors of the platform.

Oof yeah you're totally right, thanks for pointing that out, my (big) mistake

 

[Quimpossibility]

Lit does not host nude pics (although they're doing a shit job of removing nude AVs) and it doesn't host audio

Are you sure? There are illustrated stories as well as audio stories that include masturbation/orgasm.

I was sure those fall under the remit of the act. I hope I'm wrong

 

[Saltfountain]

Are you sure? There are illustrated stories as well as audio stories that include masturbation/orgasm.

I was sure those fall under the remit of the act. I hope I'm wrong

Ahhh, I don't know the story side of the site

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

Are you sure? There are illustrated stories as well as audio stories that include masturbation/orgasm.

I was sure those fall under the remit of the act. I hope I'm wrong

They're removing those, though.

*EDIT*: The nude-images, not the stories.

 

[OneEyedSteve]

So is anyone having issues accessing restricted sites that were previously unrestricted (Pornhub etc)?

 

[Saltfountain]

So is anyone having issues accessing restricted sites that were previously unrestricted (Pornhub etc)?

Yes

 

[OneEyedSteve]

Yes

Same. This country never gets anything right, does it? This shit won't protect kids at all. Kids are most at risk from bullying by their peers

 

[Adrian69702006]

Unfortunately the Online Safety Act sounds like a good thing and for that reason the politicians won't oppose it. However I foresee it causing as many problems as it solves.

 

[Bloomer73]

At the expense of stating the bleeding obvious, protecting kids from exposure to porn is only a fringe benefit. Its really there to shame and embarrass adults into not looking at porn. I managed to log on here without as normal. Other adult sites require a VPN for me to access I went with the free edition of Proton. Unfortunately with the free version you can't pick the country you wanted to be routed through an I found I had to juggle around as certain countries meant access to certain things was still restricted.

 

[Denplanner]

Hi all. Have not read the whole thread. Is this issue why the audio stories all say `not available in your region ‘ D

 

[Saltfountain]

Hi all. Have not read the whole thread. Is this issue why the audio stories all say `not available in your region ‘ D

I would guess so. Try using a VPN and see if it still says that

 

[lingus60]

Hi all. Have not read the whole thread. Is this issue why the audio stories all say `not available in your region ‘ D

I just checked this. Yes... looks like lit have blocked audio access for UK users. When I connected via vpn on a Netherlands server it was fine.

 

[spankmytentacle]

Sooner or later, people are going to figure out what this is really all about.

I think the UK is already finding out. The Starmer government is now censoring online videos of the anti-government protests. So the UK is now basically China.