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[Wonderer67]

Short one!

The best kind!

 

[Boat1]

Good morning Wonderer!
I hope you had a great weekend!

 

[Wonderer67]

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I just sent this right to my wife. It’s a running joke with us when I get her tea after dinner..

One tea bag please. (She likes strong tea in the morning)

I’ll tea bag ya!

 

[Wonderer67]

Good morning Wonderer!
I hope you had a great weekend!

Thanks, brother. It was OK. I had to take it easy this weekend.

 

[Wonderer67]

Attn nurses: medical advice needed.

My wife had a massage on Saturday, and ever since then, her bicep is aching like crazy. She’s very sensitive to stuff like that, and the pain is not very much during the day while she was working.

But at night, it’s unbearable and she can’t sleep. Every time she moves her arm it’s very painful. She never takes medicine and last night she even took a Tylenol, but it didn’t seem to help.

We are trying a warm compress today, but like I said during the day, it doesn’t really hurt, it’s only at night when her arm is in a neutral position. It kept her up the better part of the last three nights.

 

[Boat1]

Thanks, brother. It was OK. I had to take it easy this weekend.

I've been going at it fairly "lightly" myself! Lol...

 

[Wonderer67]

I've been going at it fairly "lightly" myself! Lol...

You might appreciate this story.

Yesterday, I tried for a little range therapy and was plinking at about 90 yards with a 22 caliber rifle. At 50 yards I can get really tight groupings, but at 90 I was all over the place (even using a scope).

I’m reloading my magazines when a deer literally walks right across my range at 50 yards! It’s not off-season, but I only had a 22. The deer was not all that large, but that was not the right weapon for it, so it could potentially be cruel. And of course it’s illegal.

I mean, three minutes earlier I was blasting away, hitting all of the gongs, making all kinds of noise and this deer just happens to come right into the area!

I gave it a warning shot and it came even closer! Wise up deer! Eventually, it went scampering off, but not till it realized it was about 20 feet from me by the end!

 

[Mittering]

Attn nurses: medical advice needed.

My wife had a massage on Saturday, and ever since then, her bicep is aching like crazy. She’s very sensitive to stuff like that, and the pain is not very much during the day while she was working.

But at night, it’s unbearable and she can’t sleep. Every time she moves her arm it’s very painful. She never takes medicine and last night she even took a Tylenol, but it didn’t seem to help.

We are trying a warm compress today, but like I said during the day, it doesn’t really hurt, it’s only at night when her arm is in a neutral position. It kept her up the better part of the last three nights.

Hard to do but a slight muscle or tendon tear from over kneading/stretching. Increase animal protein for building blocks, animal fat for increased brain and gland chemicals and collagen (gristle) for increased tendon recovery.

That's my non-professional, uneducated, only-heard-over-the-internet opinion.

Sprinkle with salt.

Fix the lady a steak dinner.

 

[Wonderer67]

Hard to do but a slight muscle or tendon tear from over kneading/stretching. Increase animal protein for building blocks, animal fat for increased brain and gland chemicals and collagen (gristle) for increased tendon recovery.

That's my non-professional, uneducated, only-heard-over-the-internet opinion.

Sprinkle with salt.

Fix the lady a steak dinner.

I’d like to give this a love and a laugh emoji. The only thing left is live, I guess!

Live laugh love!

Thanks Dr mitt! I made super burger for dinner last night. (Meatloaf made into burger, patties, and grilled on the grill.) Does that count?

 

[Boat1]

You might appreciate this story.

Yesterday, I tried for a little range therapy and was plinking at about 90 yards with a 22 caliber rifle. At 50 yards I can get really tight groupings, but at 90 I was all over the place (even using a scope).

I’m reloading my magazines when a deer literally walks right across my range at 50 yards! It’s not off-season, but I only had a 22. The deer was not all that large, but that was not the right weapon for it, so it could potentially be cruel. And of course it’s illegal.

I mean, three minutes earlier I was blasting away, hitting all of the gongs, making all kinds of noise and this deer just happens to come right into the area!

I gave it a warning shot and it came even closer! Wise up deer! Eventually, it went scampering off, but not till it realized it was about 20 feet from me by the end!

That's awesome!
Somewhere, I have a video of a nice sized buck, who walked up to the patio, wanting to get into my Wife's pepper plants... She's trying to run it off (verbally) but the deer just looked at Her as if it were saying "Whut... I just want a few bites?"

 

[Wonderer67]

That's awesome!
Somewhere, I have a video of a nice sized buck, who walked up to the patio, wanting to get into my Wife's pepper plants... She's trying to run it off (verbally) but the deer just looked at Her as if it were saying "Whut... I just want a few bites?"

Dear and I do not have a very good gardening history!

 

[Boat1]

Attn nurses: medical advice needed.

My wife had a massage on Saturday, and ever since then, her bicep is aching like crazy. She’s very sensitive to stuff like that, and the pain is not very much during the day while she was working.

But at night, it’s unbearable and she can’t sleep. Every time she moves her arm it’s very painful. She never takes medicine and last night she even took a Tylenol, but it didn’t seem to help.

We are trying a warm compress today, but like I said during the day, it doesn’t really hurt, it’s only at night when her arm is in a neutral position. It kept her up the better part of the last three nights.

This is my go-to on ANY fresh tissue injury!
I gave mine to a lady on my dive boat, when I saw her with an elbow brace on... after almost a week, she canceled her orthopedic appointment!
https://www.amazon.com/Christophers...qid=1748343560&sprefix=dr+chri,aps,226&sr=8-3

 

[Mittering]

Slept in this morning till 0530. Gave unadvised medical advice. Worked out in the basement. Caught up with some online friends.

Still owe yooz gize some racoonz. Later thoze.

 

[Missk_2022]

What's wrong, hun?

Too much being together and driving ... I need a break

 

[Missk_2022]

Attn nurses: medical advice needed.

My wife had a massage on Saturday, and ever since then, her bicep is aching like crazy. She’s very sensitive to stuff like that, and the pain is not very much during the day while she was working.

But at night, it’s unbearable and she can’t sleep. Every time she moves her arm it’s very painful. She never takes medicine and last night she even took a Tylenol, but it didn’t seem to help.

We are trying a warm compress today, but like I said during the day, it doesn’t really hurt, it’s only at night when her arm is in a neutral position. It kept her up the better part of the last three nights.

So. What does the pain feel.like...

Some delayed muscle pain can be normal but if severe or feels like tingling or is accompanied with numbness or nerve like pain she should.be seen by a doc

 

[cowboyup6977]

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Not always

 

[Tweedledude]

Morning everyone, I want to thank our foreign thread attendees for letting me monopolize the thread yesterday as I attempted in a small way to honor and remember our military. And those that gave or were taken from us in domestic,or foreign conflicts.

Thanks OM

 

[B2fromA2looking4U]

Does anyone know the symptoms of arthritis in the lower back and how it’s different from lower back pain? Yes I have been having lower back pain especially in the morning and today it’s lasting longer than usual.

 

[dkak001]

Does anyone know the symptoms of arthritis in the lower back and how it’s different from lower back pain? Yes I have been having lower back pain especially in the morning and today it’s lasting longer than usual.

Yeah, I want to hear the answer too!

 

[Rj_1954]

Does anyone know the symptoms of arthritis in the lower back and how it’s different from lower back pain? Yes I have been having lower back pain especially in the morning and today it’s lasting longer than usual.

It's a form of RA. I have it also...but my hands are the worst
Do you want a info link?

Symptoms of back pain due to arthritis:

• • Chronic back pain: Persistent pain lasting over three months.
    
  • Stiffness: Especially in the morning or after periods of rest.
    
  • Reduced range of motion: Difficulty bending or twisting.
    
  • Pain that worsens with activity: Mechanical damage from bending or twisting can worsen pain.
    
  • Numbness or tingling: In advanced cases, nerve involvement can cause these symptoms.
    
  • Grating or popping sensations: During movement.
    
  • Pain radiating down the legs or arms: In some cases, if nerve involvement is present.
    

 

[dkak001]

It's a form of RA. I have it also...but my hands are the worst
Do you want a info link?

Symptoms of back pain due to arthritis:

• • Chronic back pain: Persistent pain lasting over three months.
  • Stiffness: Especially in the morning or after periods of rest.
  • Reduced range of motion: Difficulty bending or twisting.
  • Pain that worsens with activity: Mechanical damage from bending or twisting can worsen pain.
  • Numbness or tingling: In advanced cases, nerve involvement can cause these symptoms.
  • Grating or popping sensations: During movement.
  • Pain radiating down the legs or arms: In some cases, if nerve involvement is present.

No, Rj. I wanted good news!

 

[Rj_1954]

@dkak001
What is your complaint. I'd like to know?

 

[dkak001]

@dkak001
What is your complaint. I'd like to know?

Was just joking around. Was hoping for some good news, as my back is always hurting.

 

[likes2watchU]

Happy Tuesday everyone...
I say that more to remind myself so I stay on track the rest of the week
Quick catch up then I need to dive back into work...

If you’ve ever seen the film, it takes a while but John Wayne is the Colonel and comes in later in the film. When that scene came on, JW, walks in the hooch and right on cue, all the Green Beret’s stood up called out, AT EASE! Whipped out their green berets (which had been hidden under shirts or tucked away) placed them on and smartly saluted

Sounds like a much-loved ritual

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Hmm...my moods seem to be cycling

A view from earlier you might all like.
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I agree w/ @Wonderer67 ... gorgeous!!

Thanks.. I miss y'all IMMENSELY when I can't be here!

Aww... we miss you, too

We typically refer to it as a "hitch."

Thank you... Didn't think I was up on the jargon... and it can differ from job to job or industry to industry.

Oh! Thank you! What an honor! I would never have asked...
I was thinking us girls can sit around drinking prosecco while W does the cleaning!

I do like the way you think

Be careful with it... that flu I had on the boat a few months ago ain't no joke!
It almost feels like permanent damage was done.

Yikes!! Sounds awful!! Take care and hope the cook on this hitch does you right.

You know what I'm going to say!

Good handwashing.
Drink lots of fluids but don't drink only water. You will need electrolytes/salts. So drink tea, broth, Gatorade.
Eating isn't really that important. Eat what you can but don't force yourself to eat. Eat lightly. Broth. Soups.
Rest. Rest lots.

My 2 cents:
Handwashing - and wash "common items" like door knobs, faucets, toilet handles, remote controls, etc.
Broth - bone broth has those electrolytes plus protein
Rest - sleep is good medicine!!
Hope you feel better soon!!

My paternal grandmother's name will probably ring a bell with you... Pendleton

Now where have I heard that before?
JK - even this Yank has heard of Camp Pendleton even if I've never been

Short one!

Ugh - short weeks are the worst IMO. Mostly because it ends up fraught with people trying to fit 5 pounds of in a 4 pound bag

I had an odd day today. Hard to get motivated. I did pull some of the taller weeds. I need to get out there every day!

You and Wonderer both... hmm, correlation or causation at work

I’m also doing stretches for my back as I have some pain there. Aging is a pain but better than the alternative!

Definitely better than the alternative! Hope you're able to work the kinks out

Morning everyone, I want to thank our foreign thread attendees for letting me monopolize the thread yesterday as I attempted in a small way to honor and remember our military. And those that gave or were taken from us in domestic,or foreign conflicts.

Thank you, OM. It's good to reflect and remember from time to time.

I wasn’t going to offend our Northern neighbors but yes…. WOW! A Pendleton. Being Army I was never there, but my crew this week is a Marine who spent time there. I think all Marines do at one point! What a legacy!

Well, I wasn't offended before...
jk
Yes, I think most Marines cycle through at some point. I've yet to meet a Marine without a story about their time at Camp Pendleton.

Easy “hitch” this week as Boat says! Man, 28 day “tours” as we call it. Haven’t done those kinds in years. Stay sane out there Boat, we’re sending our best wishes.

See? Jargon... hitch, tour... apologies in advance if I don't recall which to use with each of you...

@Lilianna23 I am so fortunate to have you on call ... thanks for the advice and I promise to follow it... well most of it I am a typical guy

We all benefit from our wonderful medical team at the café... hope you follow enough to help make a difference, @Greylag. Feel better soon

Sincere Thanks for the best wishes!... I get off Thursday, but have a thousand mile drive after that.

That doesn't sound relaxing at all
Safe travels at the end of your tour hitch

I just sent this right to my wife. It’s a running joke with us when I get her tea after dinner..

OMG - I can so see you two together doing this

I gave it a warning shot and it came even closer! Wise up deer! Eventually, it went scampering off, but not till it realized it was about 20 feet from me by the end!

I'm torn... on the one hand, a clear candidate for "thin the herd"... on the other, who wants to eat dumb meat? I mean, what other dumb things did this one do or pick up? Eeeeewww, right?

That's awesome!
Somewhere, I have a video of a nice sized buck, who walked up to the patio, wanting to get into my Wife's pepper plants... She's trying to run it off (verbally) but the deer just looked at Her as if it were saying "Whut... I just want a few bites?"

What is with your deer, you two? Are they too familiar with humans? The deer I've encountered in the Midwest are much more skittish IMO.

Too much being together and driving ... I need a break

Yeah, the downside of long road trips. I hope either you're home soon or you can manufacture some time apart - maybe with a willing relative??

 

[likes2watchU]

Does anyone know the symptoms of arthritis in the lower back and how it’s different from lower back pain? Yes I have been having lower back pain especially in the morning and today it’s lasting longer than usual.

Yeah, I want to hear the answer too!

It's a form of RA. I have it also...but my hands are the worst

RA (Rheumatoid Arthritis) is one possibility and one type of arthritis.

Here is a more generalized response from the internet... for anything more specific (like a diagnosis of RA), please consult your doctor...

Differentiating between general lower back pain and arthritis of the lower back (often referred to as lumbar spine arthritis or spondylosis) involves examining the cause, symptoms, duration, and diagnostic findings. Here's how you can distinguish them:

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1. Cause & Onset


[TR]
[TD]Feature[/TD]

[TD]General Lower Back Pain[/TD]

[TD]Arthritis of the Lower Back[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cause[/TD]

[TD]Strain, injury, poor posture, lifting[/TD]

[TD]Degenerative changes in joints/discs (aging)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Onset[/TD]

[TD]Sudden or after specific activity[/TD]

[TD]Gradual, worsens over time[/TD]
[/TR]

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2. Pain Characteristics


[TR]
[TD]Feature[/TD]

[TD]General Lower Back Pain[/TD]

[TD]Arthritis of the Lower Back[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pain Timing[/TD]

[TD]Worse after activity; relieved by rest[/TD]

[TD]Stiff in the morning or after inactivity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duration[/TD]

[TD]Often resolves in days to weeks[/TD]

[TD]Chronic (lasting >3 months)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pain Pattern[/TD]

[TD]Can be sharp, stabbing, localized[/TD]

[TD]Dull, aching, deep pain[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Improvement with Use[/TD]

[TD]Activity may worsen it[/TD]

[TD]Movement often eases stiffness (initially)[/TD]
[/TR]

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3. Associated Symptoms


[TR]
[TD]Feature[/TD]

[TD]General Lower Back Pain[/TD]

[TD]Arthritis of the Lower Back[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stiffness[/TD]

[TD]Less common[/TD]

[TD]Common, especially in the morning[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Radiating Pain[/TD]

[TD]If nerve is involved (sciatica)[/TD]

[TD]May radiate if bone spurs affect nerves[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Crepitus (grinding)[/TD]

[TD]Rare[/TD]

[TD]Possible, due to joint degeneration[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reduced Range of Motion[/TD]

[TD]Less typical[/TD]

[TD]Common with advanced arthritis[/TD]
[/TR]

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4. Diagnosis


[TR]
[TD]Diagnostic Tool[/TD]

[TD]General Lower Back Pain[/TD]

[TD]Arthritis of the Lower Back[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Physical Exam[/TD]

[TD]Muscle tenderness, motion pain[/TD]

[TD]Limited spine motion, pain on extension[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]X-ray / MRI[/TD]

[TD]Often normal[/TD]

[TD]Shows disc narrowing, osteophytes (bone spurs), facet joint degeneration[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Blood Tests[/TD]

[TD]Not usually helpful[/TD]

[TD]May rule out inflammatory types of arthritis (e.g., ankylosing spondylitis)[/TD]
[/TR]

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5. Treatment Response


[TR]
[TD]Treatment[/TD]

[TD]General Lower Back Pain[/TD]

[TD]Arthritis of the Lower Back[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rest, heat/ice[/TD]

[TD]Often effective[/TD]

[TD]Temporary relief only[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NSAIDs, physical therapy[/TD]

[TD]Usually helpful[/TD]

[TD]Needed long-term, possibly less dramatic effect[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Injections or surgery[/TD]

[TD]Rarely needed[/TD]

[TD]May be considered in severe cases[/TD]
[/TR]

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When to See a Doctor:

You should consult a healthcare provider if:

• The pain lasts more than a few weeks
• You experience numbness, tingling, or weakness
• You have morning stiffness lasting more than 30 minutes
• Pain interferes significantly with daily activities
• There’s weight loss, fever, or history of cancer/infection

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Sources:

Here are reputable sources that provide detailed information on differentiating between general lower back pain and lumbar arthritis (also known as spinal osteoarthritis or lumbar spondylosis):

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General Lower Back Pain vs. Lumbar Arthritis

• Verywell Health – Stiff Back Causes and Treatment
  Discusses common causes of lower back stiffness, including muscle strain and arthritis, and outlines treatment approaches. (Verywell Health)
• Medical News Today – Lumbar Arthritis: Symptoms, Causes, Diagnosis, and Treatment
  Provides an overview of lumbar arthritis, including symptoms, causes, and treatment options.
• Healthline – Lumbar Arthritis: Symptoms, Treatment, and More
  Offers insights into the symptoms and treatment of lumbar arthritis.
• Cleveland Clinic – Spinal Arthritis: Symptoms & Treatment
  Details the symptoms and treatment options for spinal arthritis. (Cleveland Clinic)
• Johns Hopkins Medicine – Spinal Arthritis (Arthritis in the Back or Neck)
  Explains the causes and symptoms of spinal arthritis and available treatment options.

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Diagnostic Tools & Differentiation

• Spine-Health – Symptoms of Arthritis of the Spine
  Describes the symptoms of arthritis in the spine and how they differ from other conditions. (Spine-health)
• Medscape – Spondylolisthesis, Spondylolysis, and Spondylosis Treatment & Management
  Discusses the treatment and management of various spinal conditions, including spondylosis. (Medscape)

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Inflammatory vs. Degenerative Back Pain

• Self – 5 Signs That Your Ongoing Back Pain Could Actually Be Axial Spondyloarthritis
  Highlights signs that differentiate inflammatory back pain from degenerative causes.
• Self – 6 Types of Arthritis That Can Cause Back Pain
  Explores various types of arthritis, including inflammatory and degenerative forms, that can cause back pain. (SELF)

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