cascadiabound
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For me - I think part of why I like it/turns me on is the transgression nature of it. And also because it trips on all the contradictions between my brain and my submissive needs/desires.It’s been so eye opening to me reading this whole thread. I want to understand what gives people joy even if it’s not my jam.
I hope it’s ok to ask here if I’ve understood correctly. I get these may not all be right for everyone. Let me know please if something sounds just way off for everyone. In no particular order, reasons people like degrading names (or actions).
1. The taboo, ‘transgressive’, and forbidden are hot.
If someone called me a cunt/whore/cocksucker/slut etc. in any context outside of an intimate consenting relationship, I would find it completely unacceptable and my feelings about that person would be imprinted on me in a negative way and I would want them to feel the consequences of their unacceptable words in whatever way I could.
The contradiction of the way it makes me feel in a sexually submissive setting is a huge part of why it seems to deepen my submission, pulls me into that subby headspace with all the feels, quivers, tremors, physical arousal. The fact that my physical response to degrading talk is undeniable is kind of a mind fuck. And then serves as an amplifier of the entire experience. So utterly transgressive. Yes.
I'm less sure about this point. However, if I didn't feel confident in his desire for me and that he finds me beautiful etc, it would not be okay to be called names etc. Also - I would not be able to tolerate being called ugly, worthless, or other things like that. I'm sure that would pull me right out of my submissive headspace and I would walk away and never turn back.2. Makes you feel super sexy and desirable (and you don’t find it degrading)
Being objectified for him/for his pleasure is part of what gets me off at least sometimes. I couldn't tolerate it as a 24/7 condition. But there is something very freeing about just giving in to whatever he wants - relinquishing responsibility for what happens next. Being his fuck toy. Being required to submit to his pleasure, his desire to inflict pain, giving him control over what kind of pleasure/pain I get to experience. And having him use all kinds of nasty words as he orders me/tells me/directs me... and yes, having to repeat back to him those same nasty words. It is humiliating on some level. But it is also another way of confirming his domination and my willing compliance. Idk - it sometimes feels like he's peeling me layer by layer like an onion, revealing me to myself and to him. The physical exposure, the emotional and physical vulnerability, the depth to which he is able to reveal my submission and the levels to which I crave and need it. I think the words he uses to pull me into submission to him creates this tension of being so naughty, so different from my public presentation that it provides new openings into the depths of my submissiveness. The revelations that expose my depravity, things I didn't think I wanted, but turns out I do, seem to come out in all these verbalizations. He says it, describes who I am in my submission, and to have to admit it out loud in response- it is a mind fuck. It exposes truths. Evolves and deepens submission in ways that surprise.3. You like feeling like an object (cherished toy, source of pleasure, no need to be responsible, free of decision burden, dehumanization is thrillingly taboo, those are some reasons?)
Yes. Definitely this.4. Deepens your feeling of submission. (I get loving subspace!)
I am more of a masochist than I am able to readily admit. I think I especially like the contradiction and the mind fuck of it. I think especially if he is playing with other mind fuck/control elements.5. You *like* the emotional pain it causes the same way some people like actual physical pain. (Masochism playing a part?)
For me the name calling seems to reinforce in me the fact that I AM pleasing him.6. You like pleasing your D even if you don’t enjoy the names.
Absofuckinglutely.7. It needs to be with a trusted loving partner so you feel safe, they do it because you like it (not ok from everyone, not ok all the time, but with them it is special)
Both together is weirdly delicious. And using such taboo words does have this quality of humiliation/degradation/contradiction that my subby brains loves, even though my intellectual self cannot explain it, is offended by it. The mind fuck is addictive though.10. You enjoy the mental aspect of degradation. Physical plus mental is way better than just physical. (That isn’t specific to degradation only but it came up)
Part of the mental aspect that is deeply effective for me is when he whispers nasty degrading things in my ear in public. When he tells me that he loves showing off his personal whore as we walk into a restaurant or party together. When he leans over and asks me something naughty/nasty/taboo and I wonder if he was overheard and I feel my face flush and my pussy spasms and my tummy flutters and I start falling into subspace right there. I become so maleable and compliant as he calls me his subby slut etc. My brain melts and I will pretty much do whatever he wants.
It's so weird. I don't *think* I like degradation, but my pussy definitely does. Another layer of these degrading words that is powerful for me is having them written on my body. Wearing such words under my clothes. It is a claiming of powerful taboo words into a loving/control dynamic, but also feeling elements of the degradation and getting off on being less than/only/objectified. It's definitely in the continuum of objectification toys- collar, leash, bondage, pet cages, CMnf, human furniture etc. The words flow into all these other things that I have such mixed intellectual responses to, and yet must admit that they are all things I want/need/crave and serve to heighten my sexual experience, deepen my submission and wrap me further into his control.11. You are reclaiming words used to hurt. You make them your sources of joy and that takes away their power to hurt.
Did I miss any?
Some of that is liking actual degradation.
Some is using traditionally degrading words but not for degradation.
Obviously I can only speak for myself, but maybe my thoughts are helpful to you as a writer? Or to others who are trying to figure this stuff out.If I ever write a degradation story to stretch as a writer, I want to be a good ally, make it enjoyable for folks in this thread, and not write dumb ignorant stuff.
That’s why am I asking if I got it right.
Also...there is something humiliating about the physical reaction I have to being called taboo names. My body responds. My pussy gushes, my nipples harden, I become more sexually needy/willing etc. It's like a hard wired connection where my body betrays my intellectual feminist self and reveals me to be incontrovertably a subby slut and so much more. Back to the onion metaphor.
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