What I Wrote And Why - My Mom Competes with my Stepmom

[8letters]

I’ve been publishing I/T stories on Literotica for over ten years. I rarely get requests from readers, but the number one request is for me to write mother-son stories. At one point, I got into it with a fellow author when he requested that I write a mother-son story because I told him that my “brand” was to write plausible I/T stories and that I didn’t think mother-son stories were plausible. Every so often, I’d get a request that I write a mother-son story, and I always replied “Nope.”

The reasons why I think mother-son stories are so implausible:
* Young men are attracted to women their age or younger. They aren't attracted to women much older than them
* Reflective of the above, there are almost no famous couples where she's much older than him. There used to be Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore, but they divorced and Kutcher married the five-year-younger Mila Kunis. On the other hand, there are many, many couples where the man is much older than the woman
* I don't think a typical mother-son relationship lends itself to turning romantic. The mom is typically the nagger, the one who makes you eat your vegetables. Very much a relationship where the son is treated as immature
* In traditional man-woman relationships, he's the breadwinner. In our society, a man is expected to be independent of others, capable of standing on his own two feet. A son can't be that in a typical mother-son relationship. Quite the opposite. So a mother-son relationship would keep the son from growing into what society expects of him
* Having sex would destroy the parent-child relationship, and I think most mothers would be very, very hesitant about giving that up

I think most mother-son stories get around this by at some point having the roles reverse - the son begins acting like the older adult and the mother begins acting like someone who's much more sheltered. Frequently, she acts like someone who finds sex new and exciting. I think that's the real appeal of those stories - the overturning of a relationship where the man has always been the one bossed around. But writing that type of story doesn't appeal to me.

Let me quote an academic paper from 2015. "Studies from evolutionary and social psychology have also suggested that heterosexual mate choice can be conceptualized as a “trade,” whereby, for example, men offer wealth in exchange for female youth (e.g., Pawłowski & Dunbar, 1999; Pawłowski & Koziel, 2002; Baumeister & Vohs, 2004)." Dad-daughter relationships could be viewed as such a trade. Mother-son relationships are bad on both sides of the "trade". That paper mentioned that the average age difference between a male Fortune 400 CEO and his wife when he married/remarried was 22.32 years.

Yes, there are exceptions. If 99% of guys aren’t interested in women older than them, that still leaves a lot of guys who don’t rule older women out. However, making my incest stories at least somewhat plausible is very important to me and, to me, writing a mother-son story is like starting a fight with one hand tied behind my back.

So, I always ignored requests to write a mother-son story. And then one day, I read a thread on the Story Ideas entitled, “Mom and Step-mom compete for son”. That gave me an idea for a mother-son story that would troll all those people who requested me to write a mother-son story. I’d lay out the case why mother-son stories are so implausible and overturn a bunch of other tropes.

The first thing I did was make the Main Male Character act like an eighteen-year-old male. He’s immature, he makes bad decisions, and he has wild emotional swings. He is not someone who would appeal to a mature woman. At one point, he thinks about what he wants, and he decides, “I wanted the summer to be over…I wanted to be at college, making a bunch of new friends, finding a great girlfriend, and having a blast.” He is not interested in his mom or his stepmom.

The MMC alternates weeks at his mom’s house and at his dad’s house. At his mom’s house, his mom regularly lectures him on how he should behave after he leaves home. She expects him to do his laundry, clean his room, and cook his own meals, but, otherwise, he’s free to do as he wants, and he spends his day hanging out with his friends. At this dad’s house, his stepmom constantly puts him to work cleaning, and he resents it. At one point, he and his stepmom have a big fight. He tells her that his dad has always been a horndog, that he probably cheated on his mom, and that he was probably cheating on her. “Dad’s no happier with you than he was with Mom. The reason he dumped Mom and married you is that he thought as a successful businessman he deserved a trophy wife. That’s all you are to him.”

Later, the MMC and the stepmom make up and go out to dinner and an art museum while his dad is traveling for work. When he gets back to his mom’s:

“I think you shouldn’t have gone out on a date with your stepmother.”

“It wasn’t a date. We just went out. And I thought you and I could go out this week. Go to a nice restaurant and then go someplace interesting like a museum.”

“I don’t think you should go on a date with your mother. Particularly dressed up like some wannabe Lothario. You should be dating girls your own age.”

The story goes on. The MMC fucks his stepmom in order to get her pregnant. Back at his mom’s house, his mom is irate and lectures him again. He goes out and does some yardwork. When his mom comes out to check on him, he tells her “I feel like I should be taking more responsibility around here. You know, be more of the man of the house.” The son becoming the man of the house is very common in mother-son stories. A little later, the mom disabuses him of the idea:

Mom said, “You know, you’ll never be the man of this house.” She added lovingly, “You’ll always be my son.”

I smiled. “And you will always be my mom.”

“I want you to be the man of your house someday. But it’s something you have to grow into. I don’t want to force too much responsibility on you too soon.” Before I could respond, Mom added, “I wish I hadn’t had the responsibility of raising a child thrust on me so soon.” She shook her head and added wistfully, “I wish I would have gone to college. I wish I would have spent those years studying and dating. I wish I had gotten a job and worked for a couple of years before becoming a stay-at-home Mom.” Mom searched for words for a few moments. “Growing up sucks. Responsibilities suck. Be an irresponsible kid for as long as you can. Then when it’s time for you to be responsible, to be the man of a house, embrace that responsibility.”

“And now isn’t the time to be responsible?”

“Be appropriately responsible. I mean, yard work and washing your car are appropriate things for you to do. Don’t take on any more responsibilities than that. I want you to be happy. I don’t want you to have regrets like I do.”

That evening, the MMC fucks his mom. It’s not the typical romantic, loving seduction:

Mom put her hand on the bed and used it to help her stand up. She said with anger and disgust in her voice, “But you didn’t come in here to get your cock sucked, did you? I sucked your cock all last week in your bedroom, and you were happy with that. But now after fucking that bitch all week, you want more, don’t you?” Mom let that hang in the air for a few moments.

Mom got onto the bed while holding onto my cock, forcing me to follow her. She kicked off her high heels. “So what did you come in here for, son? What were you wanting to do tonight?” Once I was on the bed with Mom, she released my cock and scooted back until she was in the middle of the bed. “What’s wrong, Bryson? Cat got your tongue?”

I couldn’t bring myself to say I had come here to fuck my mom. What kind of sick person tells their mom that they want to fuck her? I had been hoping to fuck Mom tonight, but I had pictured us hugging and kissing first, and then things would naturally heat up until we were fucking. There was nothing romantic about what we had done so far. It was like Mom was submitting to me and dominating me at the same time.

Mom said tauntingly, “You came in here to be a bad boy, didn’t you? To do something no son should do with his mom.” Mom sat up and put her hands on my shoulders. She pulled me forward. “Well, if you aren’t going to use your tongue for talking, let’s find another use for it.” Mom pushed my shoulders down so my head moved towards her crotch. As my head got close, she slid her hands up to the sides of my head. My mouth was now inches away from her pussy. “Go ahead, bad boy. Lick Mommy’s pussy. Give her a good licking, and Mommy will give you what you came in here for.”
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It turns out, his mom also wants to get pregnant. After the fuck, it’s not the typical romantic post-sex scene:

I leaned down to kiss Mom. She brought her hand up and stopped my descent. “You are not my lover. You are my sperm donor with benefits. Kissing is not one of those benefits.” I was disappointed Mom wouldn’t let me kiss her. I had felt so close to my mom in that moment, so much in love, but now she was pushing us apart.

I pulled out of Mom. I lay down on my side next to her. I started to reach my hand forward to lovingly stroke her body when Mom said, “Now, go to your bedroom.”

My jaw dropped. “I thought we’d sleep together.”

“You’re far too old to be sleeping with your mother. Now, get out of here.” Mom gently shoved me away from her.

 

[8letters]

Both women cut him off. The MMC thinks:

I felt like each woman had loved their week with me as a lover. Had I misread them? Had all they wanted was a week of sex to get pregnant?

What had I really been expecting? As Mom had pointed out, I was far from being able to be The Man of the House. Other than a hard cock, what did I have to offer them?

Which is the biggest problem I have with mother-son stories - what is the “trade”? The son gets to have sex, and I don’t see what the mom gets besides the parent-child relationship being destroyed. Oh, the mom gets to have sex too, but as hot as the moms are in mother-son stories, she could go to a bar and easily find someone to have sex with.

The MMC resumes fucking his stepmom and his mom. At the end of the summer, it’s over for good with both of them. As the MMC and his mom are driving to his college, she tells him:

“One last discussion about this summer. Don’t think next summer you can do what you did this summer with either Allison or me. Allison won’t want you to get her pregnant next summer as the recommendation is that a woman wait at least a year after she has a baby to start trying again. She knows what will happen if she gives you an inch, and I do too. Your affairs with older women are over. Focus on girls your age.”

“Okay, Mom. Eyes on the future.”

She nodded. “Eyes on the future.”

So that was my attempt to explain to I/T readers why mother-son stories are so implausible. The best the son can offer is a hard cock for a short period of time. He should be focusing on girls his age.

Did any of my I/T readers get my message? None that I can tell. It was just another stepmom-son/mother-son story to them. “My Mom Competes with my Stepmom” currently has a 4.85 rating. Of all the stories in my current library, it had the most favorites after two days.

A little bonus:
A very common trope in I/T stories is that the MMC masturbates regularly using the panties of his mother or sister. The mother or sister finds out, thinks it’s hot, and sex swiftly ensues. To me, just a ridiculous trope. I put that on its head in my story with the mom essentially punishing the MMC by making him use her panties to masturbate. It works in the story!

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

The reasons why I think mother-son stories are so implausible:
* Young men are attracted to women their age or younger. They aren't attracted to women much older than them

You've never seen a teenager's porn search history, have you?

* Reflective of the above, there are almost no famous couples where she's much older than him. There used to be Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore, but they divorced and Kutcher married the five-year-younger Mila Kunis. On the other hand, there are many, many couples where the man is much older than the woman

As far as I understand it, men generally enjoy the role of being the provider. If you're a twenty-year-old college student who has yet to achieve anything of note, while dating a twenty-five-year-old woman who has her life set with a career and effectively has to take care of you,... your girlfriend is being called a sugar-mamma and you're gonna be embarrassed.

* I don't think a typical mother-son relationship lends itself to turning romantic. The mom is typically the nagger, the one who makes you eat your vegetables. Very much a relationship where the son is treated as immature

And that's contrary to the "typical" brother-sister relationships, which totally tend to turn romantic all the time?

* In traditional man-woman relationships, he's the breadwinner. In our society, a man is expected to be independent of others, capable of standing on his own two feet. A son can't be that in a typical mother-son relationship. Quite the opposite. So a mother-son relationship would keep the son from growing into what society expects of him

Traditional man-woman relationships traditionally don't include relatives. Yes, the man is expected to be independent and capable of standing on his own two feet... but, in the setting of a Mom/Son story, that man is already used to being taken care of by that woman, asking her for rides and allowances, etc., meaning that it's a little hard to apply that logic.

* Having sex would destroy the parent-child relationship, and I think most mothers would be very, very hesitant about giving that up

Yes.

 

[mildlyaroused]

I would say the key difficulty in mother-son relations is the mother's perspective, as you note.

Let's imagine for a moment that 1000 (single, maybe inexperienced) teenage boys are approached by their mothers for sex - what percent do you think would turn that down? What about if this was a prolonged tactical operation by the mum: seduction all through the family house, over multiple weeks.

I'm not a teenage boy in that position but I'd imagine quite some number would crack sooner or later. Obviously there's the hormones and lust that comes at that age, but I also don't think they'd consider the consequences so completely as the mother would. It might be naughty, alluring, fantastical...

So yeah, I think the main difficulty comes from the mother's perspective and the loss of the parent-child bond. I'm not a parent but I can imagine there being something so absolute in a mother's love for her son that she would never risk that bond. Although this is part of the allure of I/T in the first place: the naughtiness, the danger, the thrill and the damage it could cause to your life.

I'll just say that if Sigmund Freud ever perused Literotica, mother-son stories would be his favourite (and he'd consider them most realistic). In any case, there's great depth and thought in your story 8letters and it sounds great!

 

[lovecraft68]

I would say the key difficulty in mother-son relations is the mother's perspective, as you note.

Let's imagine for a moment that 1000 (single, maybe inexperienced) teenage boys are approached by their mothers for sex - what percent do you think would turn that down? What about if this was a prolonged tactical operation by the mum: seduction all through the family house, over multiple weeks.

I'm not a teenage boy in that position but I'd imagine quite some number would crack sooner or later. Obviously there's the hormones and lust that comes at that age, but I also don't think they'd consider the consequences so completely as the mother would. It might be naughty, alluring, fantastical...

So yeah, I think the main difficulty comes from the mother's perspective and the loss of the parent-child bond. I'm not a parent but I can imagine there being something so absolute in a mother's love for her son that she would never risk that bond. Although this is part of the allure of I/T in the first place: the naughtiness, the danger, the thrill and the damage it could cause to your life.

I'll just say that if Sigmund Freud ever perused Literotica, mother-son stories would be his favourite (and he'd consider them most realistic). In any case, there's great depth and thought in your story 8letters and it sounds great!

This is where the characters needing to be 18 really make any taboo story implausible. If the son(for the sake of this conversation) was say 16 and a virgin, then mom coming on to him would be much harder to resist. But when the son is 18or a bit older( a lot of mine are 20/21) and they've dated and been with a girl or two then that hormone edge is out the window, and you need a hook not based on succumbing to lust.

The man of the house schtick is a popular device because it comes with an air of love as well as lust. Dad either left the mother for another woman or passed away. Mom's lonely, all work no play, frustrated etc, son helps out around the house, has a job and helps with the bills, spends more and more time with mom to keep her company, they get closer, he starts to see himself as the man she deserves, the one that would never hurt her, or she sees him the same way, the one man in her life who loves her in every way and...

Is it plausible in real world terms? No. Does it work in taboo erotica? Big time.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I direct you to the strange mystery of Agatha Christy and her husband Max Mallowan, 13 years her junior. So, no, it isn't true that universally men prefer younger.

 

[lovecraft68]

I direct you to the strange mystery of Agatha Christy and her husband Max Mallowan, 13 years her junior. So, no, it isn't true that universally men prefer younger.

Milf/Mom/Stepmom are routinely 3 of the top searches on just about any porn site.

I remember being in my teens and obsessed with the woman across the street who was in her forties.

 

[mildlyaroused]

Is it plausible in real world terms? No. Does it work in taboo erotica? Big time.

Oh yeah. Many times that combo bears the best erotica

You're right about the different re: 18 vs 16. I'd agree for most boys/men.

 

[SimonDoom]

This is very interesting. I appreciate you sharing the thinking behind this story.

I think there's a lot of overthinking about the mom-son incest theme. It's the taboo--the sheer, nutty, outrageous, implausible, and unacceptable nature of it--that makes it erotically appealing. I've always proceeded on this assumption, and I've written a lot of mom-son stories, and I've had fun doing them, and they've been quite successful.

Brother-sister stories are more plausible, no doubt about it. That's precisely why they are less appealing to me. I've written a couple, but I find them less interesting, on the whole.

There's no right or wrong. It's just a matter of what turns you on and what you like to write and what you like to read.

 

[AchtungNight]

My mother has never turned me on. My entire life she's been the one restricting me, telling me where I can go and what I can do. She's also been known to over-hype my handsomeness, praise me for dating women in front of them, and then behind my back put my dates down for their weight, their political differences with her, and other things. Some of this crap she outright makes up, and only after voicing her putdowns and seeing how I hate them does she show hindsight or remorse, and I can never be certain she's sincere. In other words, she's a passive aggressive bully. To be subject to someone like that... to me, it is the opposite of sexually stimulating. So, in my case, mother-son incest is not likely. Now my sister and cousins have supported me as playmates and friends throughout my life, and never put down my relationships until they have already ended. They have been good to me on all levels. So, I can accept them as fellow travelers on this free road. They're not into incest, but I can at least accept them as fantasies. If I meet an attractive older woman with that sort of personality, I might be into her. My ultimate fantasy woman is such a woman... but she's at peace with herself as a sexual being and never falsely hypes or puts down anyone else too. Not undeservedly so anyway. We're also only a few years apart. In other words, she's like my mother without the flaws, and at the same time we're not related or separated by a great deal of time. It's thus okay for me to like her. I hope the difference can be understood.

In most mother-son incest stories I've read, one or both parties have little agency. That is what makes it not work for me and thus I end up reading something else.

 

[nice90sguy]

I've always lusted after older women (younger ones too). I still lust after older women, and I'm sixty-five.

I think that attempting to cater for "popular taste" leads to a kind of blindness to sexual diversity.

 

[AchtungNight]

The older women thing is no big deal. I’ve always been into older celebrities since my teens. But making one of them my mother? No thanks.

 

[burgwad]

This is one of the biggest riddles in writing erotica for me: how to sustain a mother-son romance that doesn’t devolve into farce. You either end the story before reality has a chance to set in, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

 

[lustychimera]

I think stories like these are for people who conflate love with sex, which at the very least, hints at some kind of past emotional abuse. So a completely wholesome dynamic is nearly impossible, which is ironic because that's what the readers seem to crave

 

[burgwad]

I think stories like these are for people who conflate love with sex, which at the very least, hints at some kind of past emotional abuse. So a completely wholesome dynamic is nearly impossible, which is ironic because that's what the readers seem to crave

I’ve tried keeping the sex about pleasure and exploration, and the intimacy about love and trust.

I’ve put my characters through heady conversations about boundaries, roles (eg, parent v fuck buddy), and future plans.

I’ve tried absurdism, surrealism, and realism.

I’ve tried making Mom a side character. I’ve tried making her the main character. I’ve tried making her part of a kind of ‘main throuple.’

I wouldn’t claim I’ve been scientific about it, but I have at least been roving, and I am prepared to say I am unconvinced a compelling and complete human romance between parent and child has ever been written. The best approximations either end mid-honeymoon and just sort of leave us to imagine the affair continuing forever, magically unabated, or else they spin off into fantasy (ie, farce) and give us a hand-wavy happily ever after magically devoid of psychosexual consequences.

 

[lustychimera]

I’ve tried keeping the sex about pleasure and exploration, and the intimacy about love and trust.

I’ve put my characters through heady conversations about boundaries, roles (eg, parent v fuck buddy), and future plans.

I’ve tried absurdism, surrealism, and realism.

I’ve tried making Mom a side character. I’ve tried making her the main character. I’ve tried making her part of a kind of ‘main throuple.’

I wouldn’t claim I’ve been scientific about it, but I have at least been roving, and I am prepared to say I am unconvinced a compelling and complete human romance between parent and child has ever been written. The best approximations either end mid-honeymoon and just sort of leave us to imagine the affair continuing forever, magically unabated, or else they spin off into fantasy (ie, farce) and give us a hand-wavy happily ever after magically devoid of psychosexual consequences.

There's a famous Reddit story where the kid broke both his arms so Mom jacked him off, and eventually, fucked him. I think the kid did an AMA when he was in college.

The moderators claim it was confirmed by a some psychologist who wrote a paper on it, Non Traumatic Incestuous Relationships or something like that.

I don't have a clue if it's actually true, though.

What's even more fucked up if it is, is Dad was totally on board with this. Dude wanted to share his wife with his son.

I guess Mom and the kids did their thing then got on with their lives just fine.

 

[burgwad]

There's a famous Reddit story where the kid broke both his arms so Mom jacked him off, and eventually, fucked him. I think the kid did an AMA when he was in college.

The moderators claim it was confirmed by a some psychologist who wrote a paper on it, Non Traumatic Incestuous Relationships or something like that.

I don't have a clue if it's actually true, though.

What's even more fucked up if it is, is Dad was totally on board with this. Dude wanted to share his wife with his son.

I guess Mom and the kids did their thing then got on with their lives just fine.

I’m aware of it! I love it! I love the extremely gradual progression, how it took months before Mom gave him his first bj, and it was a couple years before she finally caved and climbed on top of him. From a storytelling perspective, the big takeaways are practicality (medical impetus, dad’s consent) and restraint (minimal fanfare, years-long escalation).

But I’d say even this is not a mother-son romance, as the sex described was nearly always quick and businesslike, explicitly unilateral, and conditional on sustaining a normal, mundane mother-son relationship in all other respects. That still makes it a herculean achievement! But not quite a romance.