Peeved at commenters

[Gamblnluck]

I am not talking about JUST those who comment about my own stories, but others as well. Instead of reading a bunch of the lowly rated stories of the day when I come back online in the afternoon, I read the comments left for the stories I read.
Take today for instance. I read a dissertation from a person who has never submitted a story denigrate the author for using the long used trope of an overheard conversation. Yes this was in Loving Wives. Not the first time the guy said things were 'tropes'.
My own opinion is there are just so many things, (plot points) new in this world. The combination and how the characters handle the situation make the story. Look at the Hallmark channel. Like my stepson says, " twenty actors, fifteen plots, and two hundred movies."
I agree. Everything else is nuance. The story may have the same plot but how it is told is unique. Just look at Romeo and Juliet. How many times has that story been retold? West side story be damned, I even remember one where Japanese interns were part of one.
Just venting. Want to see comments.

 

[TadOverdon]

Your stepson found fifteen plots on Hallmark?

He should bring that to the attention of the programmers - he found twelve plots that they aren't even using.

 

[Cuckwannabe111]

I am not an author. I have thought about it, I used to enjoy writing when I was a teen. That being said, I rarely comment on stories, but when I do, I try to be uplifting. Someone who takes the time to write a story, for my enjoyment, getting nothing in return, that's very selfless and deserves my respect. Now, if it's a published novel and it has numerous grammatical errors (thinking of certain books in the YA genre that my wife has read) I will be extremely critical, as they should have hired a proof reader before publishing the books

 

[Altissimus]

but when I do, I try to be uplifting

100%. Largely because if I don't like it I never make it to the comments page, and if I make it there and I'm only indifferent, I can't think of anything useful to say about it. I really don't get the point of pissing on someone's work - especially given how much I've paid to read it.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

There are thousands, maybe tens of thousands of statues, plaques and monuments commemorating authors, poets, actors, artists and such. Name three in honour of a critic.

If a comment adds something to my mood or my abilities or my craft, then it is welcome. The rest are just tumbleweed.

 

[Comshaw]

I am not talking about JUST those who comment about my own stories, but others as well. Instead of reading a bunch of the lowly rated stories of the day when I come back online in the afternoon, I read the comments left for the stories I read.
Take today for instance. I read a dissertation from a person who has never submitted a story denigrate the author for using the long used trope of an overheard conversation. Yes this was in Loving Wives. Not the first time the guy said things were 'tropes'.
My own opinion is there are just so many things, (plot points) new in this world. The combination and how the characters handle the situation make the story. Look at the Hallmark channel. Like my stepson says, " twenty actors, fifteen plots, and two hundred movies."
I agree. Everything else is nuance. The story may have the same plot but how it is told is unique. Just look at Romeo and Juliet. How many times has that story been retold? West side story be damned, I even remember one where Japanese interns were part of one.
Just venting. Want to see comments.

I always read and if they are of substance, try to heed the comments on my stories. It helps me improve on what I do. But those like the ones you reference are no more than a rant. A spewing of someone's bile. And most times those come from people who THINK they know where for they speak, but really don't.

To paraphrase an old saying, " Those who can do. Those who can't critique." I'll add that those who have no clue about it rant.

Comshaw

 

[Mastered_again]

Well, first you actually have to get comments. My stories get decent ratings. 10 stories, 56k views, but only 31 comments, all in total.
Must be the categories N/R, E&V, EC, Anal, BDSM, I keep telling myself, but I will not go down that hiway to hell, LW
Mrs. M

 

[Bramblethorn]

There are thousands, maybe tens of thousands of statues, plaques and monuments commemorating authors, poems, actors, artists and such. Name three in honour of a critic.

I know we've done this before (though I think it was just "name one" last time), but it's not a very meaningful challenge, because there are plenty of statued folk out there who were both artists and critics: George Orwell, George Bernard Shaw, Dorothy Parker, Marcel Proust, John Ruskin, Robert Schumann, and Sam Johnson, to name just a few. Writing notable criticism tends to require the skills that come from working in the relevant medium, and people who are successful enough as creators in their medium very often end up having opinions about other people's work.

 

[TheSpleen]

Funny this person is making a forum post complaining about unappreciative readers. It must have taken a lot of cojones for him to do this when he's one of the worst offenders in this area. Let's take a little screenshot tour of his comments, shall we?

Let's begin with the very thing he complains about on this thread. Here he is trashing someone's story because their plot wasn't new, and their way of handling it wasn't "novel".


It's not only that he hates it when story plots aren't "novel." He also hates it when story plots (or endings) don't suit his personal preference to a tee. Note the misogyny underscoring much of these. In one he suggests that a wife who had an affair be murdered.





Not only will he rant when stories don't align with his questionable values, he will vote accordingly too.


And sometimes, he doesn't even read stories before commenting pejoratively on them.


These screenshots are the tip of the iceberg. This dude's comments are everywhere. I might be back with more screenshots when I log in later. That is, if he doesn't go on a wild comment-deleting spree now

 

[TheSpleen]

Some more highlights.

There's quite a bit more but the forum only permits 10 pictures at a time. I'd rather not do another batch of these. Besides, everyone will get the idea from these.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Funny this person is making a forum post complaining about unappreciative readers. It must have taken a lot of cojones for him to do this when he's one of the worst offenders in this area. Let's take a little screenshot tour of his comments, shall we?

Let's begin with the very thing he complains about on this thread. Here he is trashing someone's story because their plot wasn't new, and their way of handling it wasn't "novel".
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It's not only that he hates it when story plots aren't "novel." He also hates it when story plots (or endings) don't suit his personal preference to a tee. Note the misogyny underscoring much of these. In one he suggests that a wife who had an affair be murdered.





Not only will he rant when stories don't align with his questionable values, he will vote accordingly too.


And sometimes, he doesn't even read stories before commenting pejoratively on them.

These screenshots are the tip of the iceberg. This dude's comments are everywhere. I might be back with more screenshots when I log in later. That is, if he doesn't go on a wild comment-deleting spree now

Gamblnluck seems to be your Number One Fan. I've never seen one reader concentrate to such a degree on one author. For good or ill, for some reason he's fascinated with your work.

https://www.joblo.com/wp-content/up...n_Annie_Wilkes_performance_in_Castle_Rock.jpg

 

[joy_of_cooking]

How did you dig all these up? Is there a way to search comments by author?

 

[TheSpleen]

Gamblnluck seems to be your Number One Fan. I've never seen one reader concentrate to such a degree on one author. For good or ill, for some reason he's fascinated with your work.

Your image made me laugh but for the record the screenshots aren't my stories. They're his general commentary. I cropped out all identifying story details as it wouldn't be respectful to highlight stories here on the forum w/out the authors knowing.

How did you dig all these up? Is there a way to search comments by author?

I don't think there's a way to search comments by author on the site (?) but it's doable with a search engine. I noticed his comments on stories soon after I started reading here and I wouldn't have said anything, but him starting this thread was a bridge too far.

 

[Winter_Fare]

Yay! The daily dose of drama

 

[AwkwardlySet]

This thread is so thick with irony. Also, judging by the descriptions in those comments, I am truly glad I am not into reading LW stories.

 

[Demiurging]

Off topic: the problem with Hallmark movies isn't that they're formulaic, it's ironically that there are so many of them and they rarely try to distinguish themselves for fear of frightening off their (I assume) steadfast viewership who only want something solidly wholesome. People don't like being surprised, at all. But if there were far fewer of them to carry the genre of inoffensive paff, I think they would be viewed more favorably by the public at large.

See also: the reticence of male porn actors because the primary audience doesn't want to hear another man while they're "using" the video.

 

[Gamblnluck]

Your image made me laugh but for the record the screenshots aren't my stories. They're his general commentary. I cropped out all identifying story details as it wouldn't be respectful to highlight stories here on the forum w/out the authors knowing.

I don't think there's a way to search comments by author on the site (?) but it's doable with a search engine. I noticed his comments on stories soon after I started reading here and I wouldn't have said anything, but him starting this thread was a bridge too far.

Spleen, you are absolutely right. I AM highly critical of stories. And if you read those stories, you would have seen my point on each. I do not mind ANY criticism where I miss my plot points, or go off on a tangent and lose point. But I also WRITE, not just sit on the sidelines

 

[Gamblnluck]

I went back and took a look at some of the stories I commented on. And to be honest, I'd stand by those comments. Some of those stories were poorly composed, the plots undeveloped, missing any sense of logic when you examine the characters he or she tried to develop. I give the authors whose stories I read as a beta reader the same critique. I point out what they need to fix and they do the same for me.

It took me a bit of effort to look them up. I am both amazed and intrigued Spleen would have found them and made screen shots.
I do not mind tropes. S

 

[TarnishedPenny]

 

[Gamblnluck]

These screenshots are the tip of the iceberg. This dude's comments are everywhere. I might be back with more screenshots when I log in later. That is, if he doesn't go on a wild comment-deleting spree now

I don't delete comments sent to me, so why would I delete comments I sent. I did not even know that was possible. And I stand behind critical comments made towards poorly written stories. I was NOT complaining about comments. Everybody has the ability to write a story. That in itself is not that hard. It is just like sitting in a bar or on the couch in your living and telling a story. But if you are going to bother, put a little effort in and made it at least interesting. A little logical even with the suspension of belief.
One of those stories where I commented about the character, he had an 18 year old kid barely graduating high school sitting in a barn, talking with his grandfather who is thinking about starting a business so the kid can make a living. In almost the next paragraph, the story has shifted only three or four years and they have a multi-million dollar enterprise that rivals the CIA (matter of fact the CIA hires them for jobs they cant do.) The boy is Rambo without mentioning how he got any training. It read like what it probably was, the guy's jerk off fantasy. The story went down from there. So yeah, I called him on it.

 

[KeithD]

why would I delete comments I sent. I did not even know that was possible.

I didn't think that was possible. Somebody know that it is?

 

[KeithD]

Spleen, you are absolutely right. I AM highly critical of stories. And if you read those stories, you would have seen my point on each. I do not mind ANY criticism where I miss my plot points, or go off on a tangent and lose point. But I also WRITE, not just sit on the sidelines

I guess you feel like those posting stories here want you to tell them how to do it right, like you do? I guess I don't understand the need to be up in other people's business here like that.

 

[TheSpleen]

Spleen, you are absolutely right. I AM highly critical of stories.

Cool. But when others are "highly critical" of a story, you throw a hissy fit on the forum.

And if you read those stories

I did read them. The reason I noticed you at all is because you kept leaving comments on stories I was reading. Clear?

Some of those stories were poorly composed, the plots undeveloped, missing any sense of logic when you examine the characters he or she tried to develop.

False. Most of them are good. A few are very good.

you would have seen my point on each

IMO, your only "point" is being an utter... Nah, I won't state my opinion of you. If I were to tell you what I really think of you, this post would get deleted by the mod.

I also WRITE

That you do. And here's a sample for everyone's reading pleasure. Wonderful, isn't it, folks? Nothing to critique here. No siree. It's a charming excerpt, full of respectful language and perfect in its grammatical construction:
"Ahh, your curious if Donna's just a horny bitch out looking for a big cock, or if she is a money grubbing bitch thinking about trading up."

I went back and took a look at some of the stories I commented on. And to be honest, I'd stand by those comments.

Wrong again. I still won't publicly post links to the stories out of respect for the authors, but if anyone reading this thread wants to form their own opinion of their quality, I could link to them in a PM.

I do not mind tropes

Your comment indicates otherwise. See above.

It read like what it probably was, the guy's jerk off fantasy. The story went down from there. So yeah, I called him on it.

Captain Critique to the rescue! He shall dismantle every jerk off fantasy! He shall decry the downward slippage of every story! Go, Captain, Go!

If I were you, Gamblnluck, I'd stay quiet. Your defensive replies are quite embarrassing.

 

[Jackie.Hikaru]

I didn't think that was possible. Somebody know that it is?

Hum I don't think it's possible.
Best I could figure out is to flag my comment for deletion for the admin to delete.

 

[djrip]

Hum I don't think it's possible.
Best I could figure out is to flag my comment for deletion for the admin to delete.

We have a list of comments we've made on our latest activity dashboard pages and can delete them from there.