nascar refusing certain gun ads, infuriating the gun industry

[Adre]

We’re not done testing the “absoluteness” of certain fundamental Constitutional rights.

What was the point of or where were you going with that statement?

It was a complete thought. Certain rights—free speech and bearing arms to name just two—will continue to be tested and perhaps restricted. As Scalia and others have said, fundamental rights are not necessarily absolute.

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

It was a complete thought. Certain rights—free speech and bearing arms to name just two—will continue to be tested and perhaps restricted. As Scalia and others have said, fundamental rights are not necessarily absolute.

And yet a government subsidy is almost impossible to revoke.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It was a complete thought. Certain rights—free speech and bearing arms to name just two—will continue to be tested and perhaps restricted.

Without a doubt.

Leftist pushing for restrictions since day 1...no reason they'd stop now or anytime soon.

Only liberty loving liberals and US conservatives (classical liberals) stand in their way.

As Scalia and others have said, fundamental rights are not necessarily absolute.

Right.

For the record I've never suggested they were.

 

[Adre]

Without a doubt.

Leftist pushing for restrictions since day 1...no reason they'd stop now or anytime soon.
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Are you against all restrictions? For instance, “hate speech?” Surely you don’t view that as a leftist notion.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Are you against all restrictions?

No I'm not, I'm ok with restrictions that prohibit the harm of others.

For instance, “hate speech?”

Hate speech is free speech....whatever that is defined as.

The only speech restrictions I support are direct incitement/endangerment and true threats of violence.

Surely you don’t view that as a leftist notion.

They are currently the only political faction actively supporting the ban of "hate speech" even though they rarely define what it is and when they try promptly get beat with it by conservatives and liberals alike.

Conservatives (classical liberals) and social liberals sure as shit aren't trying to ban it.

They aren't the black masked vandals at UC Berkeley burning "free speech" signs....those folks were all hammer and sickle flag waving "abolish ICE abolish profit" types.

 

[HisArpy]

It was a complete thought. Certain rights—free speech and bearing arms to name just two—will continue to be tested and perhaps restricted. As Scalia and others have said, fundamental rights are not necessarily absolute.

Lol. You place a lot of misplaced faith in "restrictions" of Constitutional Rights. Meanwhile Heller UN"restricted" the Right to keep arms.


Your position also shows that you favor restricting freedoms over increasing liberties. Just like a good little totalitarian should.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Lol. You place a lot of misplaced faith in "restrictions" of Constitutional Rights. Meanwhile Heller UN"restricted" the Right to keep arms.


Your position also shows that you favor restricting freedoms over increasing liberties. Just like a good little totalitarian should.

And like all the authoritarian leftist who want our liberty curtailed to liking of the leftist narrative, i bet he runs around claiming to be liberal.....

Vile abuse of the English language.

 

[Dribble]

Any citizen willing to give up their Constitutionally guaranteed Rights, is squandering the freedom of their descendants.

And do tell me...enlightened one...how an amendment that applies only about the Federal Govt not impeding the right, applies to a company or business? Sits back and grab a beer...this should be interesting

 

[Dribble]

Well...I guess I will grab a third beer...

 

[BotanyBoy]

And do tell me...enlightened one...how an amendment that applies only about the Federal Govt not impeding the right, applies to a company or business? Sits back and grab a beer...this should be interesting

And do tell me......literate one.....where anyone made a claim that it does????

I'm going to sip my coffee while you squirm.

Should be interesting

 

[bigsly]

And do tell me...enlightened one...how an amendment that applies only about the Federal Govt not impeding the right, applies to a company or business? Sits back and grab a beer...this should be interesting

Numerous State GOVERNMENTS have enacted laws that unconstitutionally bar an individual's inalienable right to keep and bear arms on private company/business properties; bars and churches are just two quick examples.

Is that applicable enough for you?

Of course, the classical American liberal view is EVERY private entity can refuse to do business with anyone they wish, for whatever reason they wish, by default. But, socialists/progressives today have statistly bastardized and authoritarianized that individual liberty view by DICTATING whom private companies and businesses MUST do business with, under FORCEFUL threat of fine and/or imprisonment if they don't obey the collective.

Take another sip of that PBR, doofus.

 

[Dribble]

And do tell me......literate one.....where anyone made a claim that it does????

I'm going to sip my coffee while you squirm.

Should be interesting

Read the post I quoted small brained one...and stick playing games w children where you might win once in awhile

 

[BotanyBoy]

Read the post I quoted small brained one...and stick playing games w children where you might win once in awhile

Yea, it's nowhere in there.

You should read the post you quoted, it doesn't even suggest anything of the sort.

If you think it does you're totally fucking delusional, illiterate or both.....I'm betting both.

Hooked on phonics . com bubba....get some, you need it, desperately.

 

[Dribble]

Numerous State GOVERNMENTS have enacted laws that unconstitutionally bar an individual's inalienable right to keep and bear arms on private company/business properties; bars and churches are just two quick examples.

Is that applicable enough for you?

Of course, the classical American liberal view is EVERY private entity can refuse to do business with anyone they wish, for whatever reason they wish, by default. But, socialists/progressives today have statistly bastardized and authoritarianized that individual liberty view by DICTATING whom private companies and businesses MUST do business with, under FORCEFUL threat of fine and/or imprisonment if they don't obey the collective.

Take another sip of that PBR, doofus.

I wonder....does the Constitution apply to the Federal Govt? Or to companies? Learn to read. Where did I write ANYTHING about a State Govt? Oh....I didnt....lol

Again, stick to the topic at hand. Does NASCAR have a right to chose what types of advertising they will run? Does Walmart have a right to choose what they will sell? That is right....the answer is yes, of course. So why bitch about it?

 

[Dribble]

Yea, it's nowhere in there.

You should read the post you quoted, it doesn't even suggest anything of the sort.

If you think it does you're totally fucking delusional, illiterate or both.....I'm betting both.

Hooked on phonics . com bubba....get some, you need it, desperately.

Sad....

 

[Dribble]

Tick tock


One community at a time...one business at a time...

 

[Vetteman]

I wonder....does the Constitution apply to the Federal Govt? Or to companies? Learn to read. Where did I write ANYTHING about a State Govt? Oh....I didnt....lol

Again, stick to the topic at hand. Does NASCAR have a right to chose what types of advertising they will run? Does Walmart have a right to choose what they will sell? That is right....the answer is yes, of course. So why bitch about it?

Why the hell does Walmart get to infringe on my right to take my gun places and show it off?

 

[butters]

Why the hell does Walmart get to infringe on my right to take my gun places and show it off?

"show it off"? really?

the answer is probably because its premises belong to them and they can determine if they don't want open or concealed-carry weapons entering their stores

to whom would you 'show off' your weapon to in a bloody grocery/household store?

 

[Vetteman]

"show it off"? really?

the answer is probably because its premises belong to them and they can determine if they don't want open or concealed-carry weapons entering their stores

to whom would you 'show off' your weapon to in a bloody grocery/household store?

It's important to let minorities & immigrants know that white men still carry guns. I also have the right to show it off to other white men so we can discuss each other's guns.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sad....

Reading....you can do it too!!

 

[butters]

It's important to let minorities & immigrants know that white men still carry guns. I also have the right to show it off to other white men so we can discuss each other's guns.

ah... you're not the real cornhustler, are you, given this answer... oh, he'd believe it alright, but never admit it

 

[Adre]

I also have the right to show it off to other white men so we can discuss each other's...you know./QUOTE]

Yes, we know.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm sure glad Vetteman finally showed up to put Adre and Rob in their fucking place.

 

[Knoturnal]

I certainly cant believe this thread has gone on for two days or more about something no-one except Nascar could decide anything about. Please respect what ever opinion they decide on . it is their right just like anything that goes on at your property may be decided by you.

 

[RoryN]

I certainly cant believe this thread has gone on for two days or more about something no-one except Nascar could decide anything about. Please respect what ever opinion they decide on . it is their right just like anything that goes on at your property may be decided by you.

What's Nascar?