Is it allowed to ask for something like this?

[DreamingOfMyEx]

I’ll be honest, if someone started ’remastering’ my work I would be pretty pissed off, and would make pissed off-Ness known to both the person ripping it off and to the Mods, I have little sympathy for your plight.

It's understandable that you "own" your own work, and you have the right to be pissed if someone steals it, messes with it, etc. However, in the case of the sequel I wanted to write, to me it was a way to honor the original author and the awesomeness of the story they wrote.
Of course permission should be obtained first - so yeah I can see where not doing that would be pissed-off-worthy.

 

[JohnSm123]

Exactly what about plagiarism is unclear to you or worthy of appeal? You took someone else's work, made some changes, and submitted it as "remastered"? To, as you say, try to improve them? Without permission. That's just about the most entitled thing I've heard of here on Lit. You should be ashamed of yourself, not wondering what the fuss is about.

OK, I realized my mistake and I stopped. Then the mods removed the thread, advised me to never do it again, and I followed their advice. Then, a few days later, they banned me. If they had decided not to forgive me, why didn't they ban me to begin with? That's what I mean by "strange".

 

[Rob_Royale]

OK, I realized my mistake and I stopped. Then the mods removed the thread, advised me to never do it again, and I followed their advice. Then, a few days later, they banned me. If they had decided not to forgive me, why didn't they ban me to begin with? That's what I mean by "strange".

They made an example of you. Clearly. They reacted, fixed the issue, and then after further contemplation broke out the ban-hammer. Very understandable.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I meant the link in the first post in this thread, which is now not there

Okay, that was not my link, that was the one JohnSm123 used. Sorry for the confusion. I see he was banned from there, and he wanted someone else to go in and paste the stories for him. I'm not sure if he means the originals or the ones he rewrote. Yes, John, I am asking you that.

 

[JohnSm123]

Okay, that was not my link, that was the one JohnSm123 used. Sorry for the confusion. I see he was banned from there, and he wanted someone else to go in and paste the stories for him. I'm not sure if he means the originals or the ones he rewrote. Yes, John, I am asking you that.

The original.

 

[Limnophile]

Okay, here's the deal. Long ago, I was a member of another sex stories forum. There were some stories I really enjoyed there. In fact, I enjoyed them so much that I tried to improve them by rewriting them and adding twists of my own. However, as it turned out, the mods were anything but cool with that. They removed my threads and perma banned me for "plagiarism."

USA copyrights last for the life of the creator plus 70 years. That changes with 'Works for Hire' and in other countries. In most cases, copyright prevents you from publishing a re-write or sequel without the original author's permission. "I can't find him" or "He won't talk to me" are no defense. Hire an attorney if you need full details.

About the best you can do is write an original story with new characters, new setting, and a plot different enough that it isn't obviously a copy.

Examples - Star Trek, Galaxy Quest. Guardians of the Galaxy, and The Orville have many similar plots and settings, but are sufficiently creative they're not plagiarism.

 

[Lube_it_up]

Exactly what about plagiarism is unclear to you or worthy of appeal? You took someone else's work, made some changes, and submitted it as "remastered"? To, as you say, try to improve them? Without permission. That's just about the most entitled thing I've heard of here on Lit. You should be ashamed of yourself, not wondering what the fuss is about.

I just checked, the site has a "CELEBRITIES & FAN FICTION" category. "FAN FICTION" means that I can take a chapter from a book, remake it, lay it out and it will be acceptable. But for some reason you can't make a fanfic based on another porn story. How it works?

USA copyrights last for the life of the creator plus 70 years. That changes with 'Works for Hire' and in other countries. In most cases, copyright prevents you from publishing a re-write or sequel without the original author's permission. "I can't find him" or "He won't talk to me" are no defense. Hire an attorney if you need full details.

About the best you can do is write an original story with new characters, new setting, and a plot different enough that it isn't obviously a copy.

Examples - Star Trek, Galaxy Quest. Guardians of the Galaxy, and The Orville have many similar plots and settings, but are sufficiently creative they're not plagiarism.

Surprisingly, I've heard of people who published their fanfiction and never got prosecuted. Also, google what transformer art is and how it works.

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

Exactly what about plagiarism is unclear to you or worthy of appeal? You took someone else's work, made some changes, and submitted it as "remastered"? To, as you say, try to improve them? Without permission. That's just about the most entitled thing I've heard of here on Lit. You should be ashamed of yourself, not wondering what the fuss is about.

I have to chuckle.

This mirrors a debate currently raging on the visual art board. Should 'digital artists' be able to claim creativity? All they are doing is using a mouse and keyboard... along with images produced beforehand by others, i.e. stolen from the net.

Plagiarism in all but name.

 

[jaF0]

Digital artists create their works from a blank screen, the same as physical media artists. Anything else is an edit or modification.

Warhol just got slapped down for 'editing' the work of another.

 

[CuttingEdge]

This is just plain disturbing...

I live in an old Victorian house and its taken a lot of work to restore. In every room it was missing little things; a piece of trim here, an unfinished cabinet there, cheap lights mounted overhead. But yet it is sad, when I get all done with the details in a room, it looks as if I never did anything because what I added should have always been there. The better I do my job in restoration, the less you see what I have done.

It's the same with a story. The ones that are great are because some author wove plot, characterization and dialog into a believable story that seems as if the fictionalized story is real. That takes talent, and so when I read that "there was this great story that just needed to be reworked", it is the epiphany of arrogancy.

Newsflash: no story is ever really done, but at some point the author has to put it down and move on.

Shame on anyone who thinks they can steal what they have worked so hard to create. It doesn't matter if you are "reworking" a story, or feel a story "needs a sequel". There is a lot of word-smithed details that you are not aware of because you did not write it, and who is anyone to demand a sequel? People steal anything for one reason: they feel they deserve it without wanting to do work to get it. It does not matter if it is a new car or a great story.

It just blows my mind that a person would plagiarize another author, get caught, be banned, want someone to go back and steal an already stolen work of creative art, all so they can most likely post it on here as their own.

 

[Limnophile]

I just checked, the site has a "CELEBRITIES & FAN FICTION" category. "FAN FICTION" means that I can take a chapter from a book, remake it, lay it out and it will be acceptable. But for some reason you can't make a fanfic based on another porn story. How it works?

Surprisingly, I've heard of people who published their fanfiction and never got prosecuted. Also, google what transformer art is and how it works.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't claim to know all the details of copyright. I think the penalty is around $100,000 per work, and violating it multiple times can get you a few years in jail. Maybe you do, but I sure don't have a spare $100K. Even if you win in court, lawyers can be very expensive.

Maybe a lot of other writers get away with it, but I would strongly suggest you do some legal research before you risk doing anything that might go over the line.

I also hate the idea of taking credit for somebody else's work.