Ginlover
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Originally Posted by gentold View Post
A submissive wins over the world , Gandhi,Mandela and Martin were submissives who appealed to the world to be good and made our lives better ,
Posted by Bramblethorn
I would have characterised these three as the opposite of submissive. They're famous for challenging unjust laws, not for submitting to them. None of those movements succeeded solely by asking nicely and appealing to people's good nature; all of them relied on making a great deal of trouble for their oppressors with strikes, marches, boycotts, etc. etc.
Gandhi and MLK were committed to non-violence (not Mandela), but that's a different thing.
The above was posted in the Lessons learned thread and really sets up my question.
I personally believe a s-type can still be a world changer. Being submissive to a partner in a dynamic doesn’t stop them running a business or being an activist or, damn it, a world leader. Again just my view but if the dynamics means the D-type does not dominate agreed aspects of the s-type’s life (Er like running a country) I can’t see this not being a dynamic.
But that’s not my question. Have any s-types struggled to accept who they are?
I’ve read some beautiful and brutally honest accounts from D-types being horrified for enjoying dominating in their early exploration - breaking the social acceptable norms they have had ingrained in them - no it’s not abuse or rape it’s a consensual act.
I have not read any accounts of s-types being disgusted with their submissive needs. I’m trying to describe a kinda internal war of being a world changer while their body and mind enjoys the exchange of power by submitting.
Stereotypical top executive who craves submission is well understood especially male sub to Domme. Less discussed is the female s-type, dominate in her field but craving the need to submit to a partner.
Now remove the craving and need words. Has any s-types experienced a horror and disgust with themselves for enjoying submitting?
Originally Posted by gentold View Post
A submissive wins over the world , Gandhi,Mandela and Martin were submissives who appealed to the world to be good and made our lives better ,
Posted by Bramblethorn
I would have characterised these three as the opposite of submissive. They're famous for challenging unjust laws, not for submitting to them. None of those movements succeeded solely by asking nicely and appealing to people's good nature; all of them relied on making a great deal of trouble for their oppressors with strikes, marches, boycotts, etc. etc.
Gandhi and MLK were committed to non-violence (not Mandela), but that's a different thing.
The above was posted in the Lessons learned thread and really sets up my question.
I personally believe a s-type can still be a world changer. Being submissive to a partner in a dynamic doesn’t stop them running a business or being an activist or, damn it, a world leader. Again just my view but if the dynamics means the D-type does not dominate agreed aspects of the s-type’s life (Er like running a country) I can’t see this not being a dynamic.
But that’s not my question. Have any s-types struggled to accept who they are?
I’ve read some beautiful and brutally honest accounts from D-types being horrified for enjoying dominating in their early exploration - breaking the social acceptable norms they have had ingrained in them - no it’s not abuse or rape it’s a consensual act.
I have not read any accounts of s-types being disgusted with their submissive needs. I’m trying to describe a kinda internal war of being a world changer while their body and mind enjoys the exchange of power by submitting.
Stereotypical top executive who craves submission is well understood especially male sub to Domme. Less discussed is the female s-type, dominate in her field but craving the need to submit to a partner.
Now remove the craving and need words. Has any s-types experienced a horror and disgust with themselves for enjoying submitting?
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