Content guidelines question: Celebrities, prostitution, places and events similar to real ones

[ChimilDetin]

Hi all — noob here.

I have an idea for a story that's poured out of me to the tune of nearly 100 pages (!) over the past week, with probably at least another 50-100 to go.

I started to think about partial publication of the story, then took a look at the guidelines and got a little scared to continue at all.

I'm just wondering if the concept is valid for the site or not.

Here's a synopsis:

In a world where things went a little differently, the Detroit Lions beat the San Francisco 49ers in the NFC Championship to go to the Super Bowl and face the Chiefs.

Before the big game, a flamboyant Detroit strip club manager gets publicity for offering a playful bet to Taylor Swift: If Swift's boyfriend, Travis Kelce, can lead his Chiefs over the Lions, Swift gets $1 million for herself or charity. If the Lions win, though, Swift must come "dance" at his best club for five days.

The bet goes mildly viral, then talk of it largely disappears — because Taylor secretly took it to both silence the discussion and show confidence in her man. When the Lions win, in part because Kelce suffers a serious injury, Taylor eventually must "pay up."

With Kelce unable to fulfill a promise to be Taylor's club white knight, she heads to Detroit weeks later during a gap in touring to complete her end of the bargain as quietly as possible.

She soon finds out Detroit strip clubs aren't what she expected: They're truly more like brothels. She also has to deal with a fellow dancer who turns on her, some overconfidence leading her to a too-rough customer, and the looming threat of being found out and having her image as America's sweetheart shattered.

However, even after discovering the true nature of Detroit's clubs and dealing with the above and more, Taylor goes through with it, seeing it as a journey of self and sexual discovery.

She's helped by a mentor stripper, the high-earning "Jessica," who is skilled with both men and women and goes from disliking Taylor's sweetheart image to cheering her on in her journey of sexual discovery. We also find out Jessica has a young daughter who may have a connection to Taylor & Travis.

In the end, Taylor walks away from the experience transformed, happier with her sexuality and feeling like she understands people's wants and needs better. Jessica also transforms, as she becomes more at peace with her role in people's lives as a dancer.

Right now, in my mental outline of the story, it has nine sex scenes. One I'm worried about is one where Taylor gets "surprised" by a less than savory customer who is rough with her doing anal. I'm workshopping it in my head to figure out how to making it a less-than-positive experience without ranging into non-con. I want it to set up a triumphant final scene where Taylor overcomes the previous bad experience to willingly include anal in a final dalliance with a different customer.

Of these scenes, six — all the non-lesbian ones — would include fictional prostitution in a fictional Detroit strip club. However, the club would be based quite a bit on real Detroit clubs, and, frankly, stuff that been reported to have gone on in Detroit strip clubs. The Penthouse Club in Detroit was shut down for such activities.

The "club manager" character would also run a "dancer recruitment service." While both the manager character and service would be fictional, they would be largely based on real life. Google HBO's Topless Prophet to understand.

There would also be a mild implication the club is linked to organized crime, but it only be to explain how they get away with what happens, not a central plot point.

Anyhow, I'm just wondering if it's even worth me continuing with the story or if I'm just wasting my time such that this story will never fit the site's guidelines. Thanks in advance.

 

[AlinaX]

Including celebrities is always risky. The person who will accept or reject your story is Laurel, so your best bet at this point is to message her here in the forum and hope for a response.

 

[Bamagan]

Hi all — noob here.

I have an idea for a story that's poured out of me to the tune of nearly 100 pages (!) over the past week, with probably at least another 50-100 to go.

I started to think about partial publication of the story, then took a look at the guidelines and got a little scared to continue at all.

I'm just wondering if the concept is valid for the site or not.

Here's a synopsis:



Right now, in my mental outline of the story, it has nine sex scenes. One I'm worried about is one where Taylor gets "surprised" by a less than savory customer who is rough with her doing anal. I'm workshopping it in my head to figure out how to making it a less-than-positive experience without ranging into non-con. I want it to set up a triumphant final scene where Taylor overcomes the previous bad experience to willingly include anal in a final dalliance with a different customer.

Of these scenes, six — all the non-lesbian ones — would include fictional prostitution in a fictional Detroit strip club. However, the club would be based quite a bit on real Detroit clubs, and, frankly, stuff that been reported to have gone on in Detroit strip clubs. The Penthouse Club in Detroit was shut down for such activities.

The "club manager" character would also run a "dancer recruitment service." While both the manager character and service would be fictional, they would be largely based on real life. Google HBO's Topless Prophet to understand.

Anyhow, I'm just wondering if it's even worth me continuing with the story or if I'm just wasting my time. Thanks much.

Fictional depictions of prostitution are generally permitted on the site, but anything that verges on non-consent or violence in combination with celebrities would be pretty iffy, and I think the site would probably err on the side of caution and reject it. They might even be less likely to accept it in light of the recent deepfake porn incident involving Taylor Swift. The devil is in the details, though. Half of the celeb category involves that kind of stuff, so having her be a prostitute... well, I doubt you're the first.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Anyhow, I'm just wondering if it's even worth me continuing with the story or if I'm just wasting my time such that this story will never fit the site's guidelines. Thanks in advance.

I'd quiz Laurel on this one. As AlinaX notes, the recent porn fakes of Taylor Swift make the content a bit dubious, and in poor taste. What did she do to deserve such treatment?

 

[lovecraft68]

Just don't write a Taylor Swift story, the government might get involved and shut down Lit and every erotica site in the world.

 

[AlinaX]

A famous sailor called Twift, on the other hand...

 

[StillStunned]

A famous sailor called Twift, on the other hand...

"'Hello, sailor!' Oliver Twist goes to sea."

 

[AlinaX]

"Please, sir, I want more."
"Come back when you're eighteen, lad."

 

[Bamagan]

"'Hello, sailor!' Oliver Twist goes to sea."

Face dripping with cum, Oliver says, "Please, sir, I want some more."

 

[AchtungNight]

The lounge I use in my stories is frequented by celebrities and other beautiful people, but it is explicitly neither a brothel nor a strip club. It’s an Oriental-style love hotel, arcade, restaurant, and dance club if anything. Taylor Swift did frequent it during her London years, though I have yet to write that story in detail. From what I know of Taylor- I’m not a big fan, I consider her music overhyped hit or miss- she would never agree to a scheme like you propose. She’s financially stable and her morality wouldn’t let her get into prostitution or stripping. Not gambling either.

If you took out the prostitution element, made the sex consensual, it might be easier for Laurel and Taylor’s fans to stomach. Good luck.

 

[jaF0]

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[SimonDoom]

What did she do to deserve such treatment?

Well, if you're a Baltimore Ravens fan, she's rooting for the wrong team.

 

[MelissaBaby]

A million dollars? Honey, Taylor Swift made a million dollars while you were typing the post.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

The particular celebrity aside for the moment, Laurel tends to reject stories featuring real people if the sexual acts involve things like blackmail or coercion as the primary motivation for the celebrity having sex. Your premise related to the bet might not pass her scrutiny in that regard.

 

[lovecraft68]

A famous sailor called Twift, on the other hand...

A Tailor who sews swiftly in an attempt to repair the uniform of their love Kelsey Travitz

 

[Djmac1031]

On the upside, your story sounds more realistic and plausible than all the moronic conspiracy theories about her floating around recently.

 

[KeithD]

If you have a celeb doing anything questionable they can't be shown to do in real life, you are on shaky ground,

 

[jaF0]

I thought it was Kelsey Grammar?

'Utt da zay' sings the tailor, all it means is 'That's the way'.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Agreed with all of the above.

On the other hand, is there any real need for it to be Taylor Swift in particular? Yes, she's famous and popular and pretty enough, but I see no difficulty in some imaginative world-building, with a fictional superstar singer, idolized by millions, scorching hot, talented, etc. From there, carry on as planned - less the possibility of lawsuits and battalions of flesh-eating lawyers.

As to places, there's little bar to mentioning them. Saying, for instance, "We went for coffee to the MacDonald's in Times Square. The hour passed quickly in discussion." would be perfectly okay, provided you didn't write there being an opium den in the basement, so to speak.

Good luck.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I’m sure her millions are some consolation, but I’d hate to be a female celeb.

Emily

 

[Bamagan]

I’m sure her millions are some consolation, but I’d hate to be a female celeb.

Emily

 

[jaF0]

but I see no difficulty in some imaginative world-building, with a fictional superstar singer, idolized by millions, scorching hot, talented, etc. From there, carry on as planned - less the possibility of lawsuits and battalions of flesh-eating lawyers.

Flashback to the 60s and The Monkees who were essentially created for TV based on some of the other popular bands of the time.

 

[AchtungNight]

I’m sure her millions are some consolation, but I’d hate to be a female celeb.

Emily

Just because you’re an idol of millions is no reason not to enjoy your life. The celebrities in my stories all know this truth and embrace it- although some did have to learn it over time. Erika, Busy, and Katie, for example. As a fan, I’m happier for them to be enjoying themselves than living some crazy pure ideal for whatever reason. And I like to think the versions of them in my stories balance the two as necessary. Cole and Erika are both responsible parents and happy swingers when they can manage it, for example (see Passion: Hollywood Nights). Characters who have a history of being victims are also recovered and no longer the sort of people who would put up with such things- this is the case for Evan Rachel Wood and others.

But I get your fears too. Just remember- your life is yours, and fantasy is fantasy. And both can exist comfortably together. I keep telling myself this.

 

[MrPixel]

Fantasy or not, I personally think it's a bad idea given the current sociopolitical environment and the attention Ms. Swift and Mr. Kelce are drawing at the moment. But I will temper that assessment by the admission that I hold media celebrity and the hype surrounding it in low regard, and by corollary don't "get" fan-fic, especially in the erotica arena.

Practically speaking, it's unlikely to pass muster. Call it the "Disney Rule", where Disney characters are incorporated into a submitted story and at risk of unleashing the legal juggernaut which seems to be half of the Disney business. So that content is justifiably prohibited. Ms. Swift's wholesome girl-next-door-done-good image is carefully crafted, and even just the thought of a fraction of her billions being deployed in defense of that image should make one take pause.

 

[AchtungNight]

Taylor Swift strikes me as someone who laughs off erotic fantasies and jokes from her fans, I think the majority of famous people are like this- definitely all those featured in my stories. They know better than to waste time dealing with unnecessary drama, some of them even enjoy the attention. I know Natalie Portman enjoys both her Saturday Night Live rap performances and her positive feminist icon image, for example. Considering Taylor has parodied her own dating history multiple times in her music, she’s probably the same way.

At the same time, forced prostitution is no laughing matter. Neither is gambling with unethical stakes. I don’t think either should be supported. This site’s owners and Taylor’s more devoted fans might agree. So my advice is- find other themes to put across in your tale. Or somewhere else to publish it. Good luck.