Could be a model

Again with the curiosity.
How many times have you read or heard a woman being described "so good looking she could be a model".
How many have you written, said or thought it. Yes, me too.
So I have to ask the question. What the heck do you mean?
There are so many models and not all are fantastic to look at, just check ou FTV sometime. Some of those girls are so plain and their bodies look like they have been planed.
So do you mean the: undernourished, flat-chested, scrawny, fashion runway model; curvy underwear or swimwear model; slightly curved underwear or swimwear model; slightly curved, photo shoot model; curvy, silicon enhanced, nude model, etc.
They come in all shapes and sizes. You just have to glance through a target catalogue to see different types.

That's the point. You'd be drawing the reader in by connecting to their image of what a model is at that point. You could then start specifying to your image or leave the reader to imagine his/her own.

I agree with the above. Its like saying a woman's breasts were large, each person can decide what that would be for them.

Regular features, highly symmetric facial structure, large eyes generally. On the tall side. All her days are good hair days.

legerdemer said:

Regular features, highly symmetric facial structure, large eyes generally. On the tall side. All her days are good hair days.

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And no pimples, ever.

This is relevant...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=89zOtd6VAiU

I saw a TED talk once by a lingerie model who described the social inequities associated with being beautiful. I wept at her grave misfortune for being perfect, but I didn't take my eyes off from her.

"Looks like a model" is one of those description I'll never use. I don't have a fixed concept of what a model looks like and I generally prefer descriptions that take a little more effort.

NotWise said:

I saw a TED talk once by a lingerie model who described the social inequities associated with being beautiful. I wept at her grave misfortune for being perfect, but I didn't take my eyes off from her.

"Looks like a model" is one of those description I'll never use. I don't have a fixed concept of what a model looks like and I generally prefer descriptions that take a little more effort.

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I've written characters who were models are aspired to be, but mostly I avoid the idea. It's recognizably cliched. And in those cases I do use it, I go on to give some actual description.

NotWise said:

"Looks like a model" is one of those description I'll never use. I don't have a fixed concept of what a model looks like and I generally prefer descriptions that take a little more effort.

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I've not used that phrase; I do tend to overuse "just fucking gorgeous!" I might adapt the phrase to something like, "She looked like a model for high-end fishing gear."

HandsInTheDark said:

I've written characters who were models are aspired to be, but mostly I avoid the idea. It's recognizably cliched. And in those cases I do use it, I go on to give some actual description.

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The actual description would be crucial for a reader like me. Two of my daughters were paid for modelling. Aside from being pretty perfect (at least from a dad's point of view) they don't look much alike. They act somewhat alike in that they are both committed to an art, but that commitment -- which nears the core of their character -- is certainly not reflected in a description like "looks like a model."

In the few stories I've written I've generally tried to avoid describing women's physical appearance. Probably the Lit readers would prefer it otherwise, but to me, there are more important things to talk about.

This is one of those things that should be in a movie, and only in a movie with really bad pick up lines.

Sadly, I have been told this. It goes along the lines of 'hey hot stuff, you could be a model wanna come back to my place, get naked, take some sexy photos and do what comes naturally?'

I hope that never works, and yet men do say that. Usually they are two sheets to the wind so suppose it sounds better to someone 20 minutes away from passing out.

I rarely encounter attractive women anymore. Next door are two fat lesbians I call THE SKIPPER and GILLIGAN. On the other side of me is an obese Negress. The fat blonde across the street I call LADY GAGA. I rarely see any good looking women while shopping. Most are meh and plenty are the dregs of the barrel.

NotWise said:

The actual description would be crucial for a reader like me. ..

In the few stories I've written I've generally tried to avoid describing women's physical appearance. Probably the Lit readers would prefer it otherwise, but to me, there are more important things to talk about.

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A technique I used in one story was to have the main character describe herself as a near look-aike to a particular model/porn actress. People who cared could websearch for images, people who didn't got were given a vague impression of blond and stacked.

In another the main character got described by anoher as "Female, Caucasian, 25, dark hair, 120#, and may I just add, fucking hot." That was late on the first page and I never described her further.

In The Captured Princess, easily my most "visual" story, a riot of descriptive imagery, I mention the princess as under 150cm tall and elsewhere, "Pretty face she has, and with her long strawberry blonde hair she's quite a novelty, isn't she. What do you think Arj wants her for? Maybe for these fine breasts?" and that's as much as I ever said.

I don't think I've ever mentioned a cup size, rarely mention a height... and the more I think about it, the more I realise I'm terrible at visualizing my characters, though I get detailed vosuals of their settings. In every case where I do mention appearance, the story was written to make describing it as natural a part of the story as possible. I *hate* the "Julie was a hot blonde with 36C boobs" approach to introduction.

I write to affect women emotionally. Numeric descriptions don't, I think, work well there.

It amuses me what in some stories I use inches and in other I use centimeters, and readers have tried to guess my culture from the units I use. I choose units based on the story's setting, not mine.

Hypoxia said:

I've not used that phrase; I do tend to overuse "just fucking gorgeous!"

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Alas, I too often wind up with a lady who's non-fucking gorgeous.

GforGraham said:

Again with the curiosity.
How many times have you read or heard a woman being described "so good looking she could be a model".
How many have you written, said or thought it. Yes, me too.
So I have to ask the question. What the heck do you mean?
There are so many models and not all are fantastic to look at, just check ou FTV sometime. Some of those girls are so plain and their bodies look like they have been planed.
So do you mean the: undernourished, flat-chested, scrawny, fashion runway model; curvy underwear or swimwear model; slightly curved underwear or swimwear model; slightly curved, photo shoot model; curvy, silicon enhanced, nude model, etc.
They come in all shapes and sizes. You just have to glance through a target catalogue to see different types.

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After working for a furrier on Newbury Street in Boston as their controller, I worked as the business manager of a famous modeling agency just down the street.

We had more than 2,000 models, mostly female, 2 to 1. What surprised me, the most beautiful women didn't make it big. They didn't get picked to walk the runway or make commercials.

The women who made it were the woman with the larger features, ala Gisele, larger noses, eyes, chins, and cheek bones. Everything was exaggerated about them, including their height. Why? they were the most photogenic. The camera loved them. They photographed the best. They were all 5'11" to 6'2" tall.

When I saw the runway models in person, I wasn't all that impressed, other than with their height. When I saw the magazine models in person, no matter if it was a woman or a man, all I could do is stare.

"Wow!"

Where are these people? You never see them out and about on the street. Yet, every time there was a shoot, we'd have a catcall of a couple hundred models at the agency waiting to be interviewed.

Further, what surprised me even more was that the men were 5'9" to 6' tall. Weird. The men took normal sizes, large instead of extra large. A typical male model wore a size 16 inch neck shirt and a 32 inch waist.

We were a full service agency with models in all ages and sizes.

By the way, none of the female models I knew were flat chested. Against their agents instructions, many of them had breast implants. And...I wouldn't call any model that I met...plain (lol). They were all special in their own unique way, whether their face, their body, their hair, and/or their eyes.

SusanJillParker said:

Personally, as a whole, I don't like models. I don't know how anyone can spend the bulk of their day on their appearance.

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...says somebody whose sig is mostly about describing her appearance

People will do all sorts of things for a paycheque. Take it less as an indicator of their personal interests, and more as an indicator of their need to pay the rent.

Meanwhile, I'd have to listen to dozens of conversations at the same time. Even with my door closed, the noise was deafening.

All they talked about was skin products, hair products, latest styles, clothes, excercise programs, and diets...and that was just the men. The male models were just as bad as female models.

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People who work in the same profession will tend to talk shop when they get together, yeah. If I'm meeting random strangers and the only thing we have in common is our job, I'm probably not going to leap straight into telling them about my erotic fiction hobby or my cousin's drug problem. Work is a safe topic.

I think skinny super-model with exotic features. Or very very symmetrical well defined features with larger eyes. Has to tall 5'9 +.

GforGraham said:

Again with the curiosity.
How many times have you read or heard a woman being described "so good looking she could be a model".
How many have you written, said or thought it. Yes, me too.
So I have to ask the question. What the heck do you mean?
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To my mind, no catwalk sparrow, nor yet a clothes-hanger of wild appearance.
Smartly turned out, neat in appearance, clothes of a good colour, cut and fit.
Sufficiently intelligent, too

Someone a fellow would be pleased to be seen with - anywhere!

Handley_Page said:

Someone a fellow would be pleased to be seen with - anywhere!

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Possibly excepting his wife's gun sight.

Bramblethorn said:

...says somebody whose sig is mostly about describing her appearance

People will do all sorts of things for a paycheque. Take it less as an indicator of their personal interests, and more as an indicator of their need to pay the rent.



People who work in the same profession will tend to talk shop when they get together, yeah. If I'm meeting random strangers and the only thing we have in common is our job, I'm probably not going to leap straight into telling them about my erotic fiction hobby or my cousin's drug problem. Work is a safe topic.

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Talking shop is one thing.

Talking shop could even be interesting.

Yet, with models, everything other word out of their beautiful mouths is...me, me, me.

Actually, I tell everyone that I write erotica.

"What do you do?"

"I'm a writer."

"Oh?"

"Are you published?"

"Yes."

"Maybe I've read something you've written."

"I doubt that."

"What do you write?"

"Erotica."

"Oh, my look at the time. I have to go, um, feed my, um, goldfish."

To me, I write stories. I'm not embarrassed or ashamed by what I write. I write about people. I create characters. I'm proud that I can write, even if most people think that I write porn. I don't write porn. I write erotica.

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Possibly excepting his wife's gun sight.

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How true.

Really, most women look good enough to be a model, or a porn star. It's just that most women don't want to be those things.

Many models look fairly average when they aren't in professional make-up, hair styling, lighting, and photo retouching.

PervOtaku said:

Really, most women look good enough to be a model, or a porn star. It's just that most women don't want to be those things.

Many models look fairly average when they aren't in professional make-up, hair styling, lighting, and photo retouching.

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OK, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

Unlike guys, we dress to impress female co-workers.Sorry boys!

Runway models are just clothes-horses.

legerdemer said:

Regular features, highly symmetric facial structure, large eyes generally. On the tall side. All her days are good hair days.

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I agree. Ad makers want particular traits highly esteemed by most people.