SEVERUSMAX
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I wonder what can be done with a global warming or Ice Age scenario?
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Shendude said:You mean portrayals of utopias and dystopias, or do you mean some combination thereof?
Do you mean a story taking place in a dystopia or utopia, or just describing one (when done properly such things can be pretty good on their own)? Do you have any particular ideas about what constitutes one or the other?
EDIT: I ask because I have a fetish of sorts for stories that feature a kind of society that could be described as utopian or as dystopian, depending on several factors.
What do you think about "The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells?SEVERUSMAX said:I like stories set in worlds that have a mix of utopian and dystopian features.
Fantasies-only said:What do you think about "The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells?
SEVERUSMAX said:I wonder what can be done with a global warming or Ice Age scenario?
J.Q. Hack said:There seems to be endless possibilities with scenarios involving global warming or an ice age. I could imagine one, with the survival of the human race in question all social mores and norms have to be thrown out the window. The urge to survive and propigate take on a sudden urgentness that wasn't there before. The ever rising heat or sudden cold awakens a primal lust, for both survival and each other, in humans. A future where sex is just as important as eating and drinking for survival?
J.Q.
SEVERUSMAX said:And where women need men for protection again, so feminism is history.
J.Q. Hack said:Not necessarily. Since this is fiction a global warming or ice age earth society can have any characteristics you like. I can see a future where battles and wars for increasinly scarce and expensive resources lead to men practically making themselves extinct. Who's left to fill the men's shoes? The women of course. The once powerful and boastful male is now at the beck and call of his female overlords. I know there are several feminist utopian novels and short stories out there so this isn't entirely new ground but I doubt any of them have erotic overtones. So in a future world feminism may not be necessarily dead
J.Q.
Texguy84 said:You could have some madman make a plague which kills you if you don't have sex with someone (maybe the male version and the female version neutralize eachother temporarily when you swap fluids). It would, of course, be a super-smart plague which only affects people 18 and over.
SEVERUSMAX said:One scenario that might be connected to such a thing is to simply have the virus strike at 13 and have a 5 year latency, so that it only becomes a threat at 18, after which point the disease is almost terminal, unless they fuck. Suppose the government eliminated all other viruses (including AIDS and STDs), and the death toll from the plague was already so high that the nations of the world agreed to a one world government, with an end to war, and require people to go to glory holes to mate frequently- males until 35 (when they start losing fertility) and females until 25 (when they become less fertile). Men attend them daily, whereas women do so only on their fertile days.
Aside from this civic "duty", men and women are permitted to do as they please in their private lives, including having otherwise exclusive relationships if they so please (such as traditional marriages). They can homosexual relationships as well. Once they reach the age of termination, where they have fulfilled the Quota, they are released from procreative or "compulsory breeding service", and can "retire" to completely private lives.
Because more women than men are free from service, however, polygamy becomes very common, as women tend to wait until their service is over to marry (for a variety of reasons, including the women's sexual ethics and level of sentimentality regarding the amount of love attached to sex).
Professional custodians of both sexes raise children, instead of birth parents. These have the benefit of plenty of time for children, plus training in dealing with them. So, the women only have to bear the children, not raise them, leading to a boost in their career standing. With maternity issues being less significant, equal pay for equal work becomes a reality, and there are more women than men in the corporate world, since there are more women than men in the general population.
Just an idea.....
sensualpilgrim said:SeverusMax, I really like this idea. I think it have a lot of potential not only as a erotic story but also as a social Sf in which the assumptions about morals, sexual habits and politics are examined. This kind of world can also consider the conflict betwen the sudden evironmental pressure for survival and inbreeded habits of thoughts we inheirted from our hunter-gather ancestors (sexual equality, etc). In a good hand, it would make for a very rich and sexy story.
SEVERUSMAX said:Glad to get some input on one of my more extreme utopian scenarios. I tend to like creating worlds with strange sexual mores, because it reflects the idea that our society's rules are not universal or objective absolutes, that there are alternatives, even if the ones presented are flawed.
sensualpilgrim said:One detail that I like is that there are more, lot more, women than men and that breeding is open to any men. There's a reason why societies that are democratic or peaceful tends to be monogameous in practice, if every men have a chanch at just one wife then there would be less frustration, less risk-taking, less violence like we see in Middle east that is heavily overweight in favor of males in sex ratio. This is merely one factor in why some areas are so messed up, but it's a big one. I'm curious how China and India will solves this problem. This could be a food for interesting SF erotica stories
Well, yeah. Haven't you heard the saying: "women for children, boys for pleasure"?SEVERUSMAX said:maybe some of them are gay?
SEVERUSMAX said:Well, given the infidelity rate (80%), plus swingers like me and my slave, I doubt that the West that is all that monogamous.
But you have a point about the shortage of women in the Middle East. It lends itself to sexual frustration, sublimated to anger and hate. If many men have no prospect of ever getting laid, they are more susceptible to false promises like 72 virgins in Paradise if they kill someone for Allah. Not excusing them (I will never forgive Osama for 9/11), but it does explain things better.
Of course, if they would stop murdering girls in places like Pakistan....it would help.
Talk about male chauvinists.....they don't even seem to think that women are good for sex. Sounds like some sexuality issues......maybe some of them are gay?
sensualpilgrim said:That is correct. Monogamy is more honored in the breach than in practice. There are a lot of cheaters for a simple reason that men want to pass on as much genes as possible while women want the best genes possible so that HER sons can breed as many women as possible while getting the best resources she can get from her cockooed husband. I am very attracted to swinging but has done a few times. I discovered that it pay to be emotionally mono with a mate while sharing sexual freedom.
Another thing about sex virus is sexual selection. If any women can be breeded through glory holes or such, then it would come down to sperm compeitition. The stronger sperms with bigger dicks and heavier sacks should show up in a couple of generations in majority of males, because of open sexuality. Men would become more like chimps in the cock size compared to it body mass.