scouries
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incest? not in the book store? are you crazy?
TEX UH, Jim, have you ever been in a book story or a place that sells books? Did you see the shelves of Romance novels? Did ya ever see even one loving wives story or incest story? If you actually believe that last paragraph you wrote then you are seriously whacked and deserve the fantasy world you inhabit.
DK You know I was all set to write something scathing since half of what I write is Romance.
TEX, DK I believe you missed my point on ROMANCE stories…
I neither dislike nor disparage ROMANCE story writers. In fact I myself have often been referred to by my fans as the “King of Incestuous Romance”. I’m a sucker for a happy ending. My stories all end with the handsome, big cocked lead falling in love with his beautiful sister/mother/daughter/niece/son? and living happily ever after.
You haven’t yet grasped that what I don’t like is ROMANCE stories winning an inordinate number of contest prizes simply based on the fact ROMANCE readers by nature vote higher than other category readers. That’s it!
I hate to see critics and intellectuals disparage ROMANCE authors in the real world…authors who write in the most competitive market for often very small returns. They are the true working stiffs out there…
And that’s why it pisses me off to see you AHers belittle “popular” authors in other categories and make fun of their readers on this site in your oh so smug way.
All readers are good as far as I’m concerned. I don’t care what their motivation or education is…
My theory is: If he or she’s reading Scouries today maybe he or she will be reading Shakespeare tomorrow…which really isn’t that great a leap… see below. mr TEX, it seems that you can buy “incest” stories at your bookstore…Shakespeare, Dickens, Joyce, James, Conrad…and what about the Greek myths…Oedipus maybe…
Patriarchy and Incest from Shakespeare to Joyce
by Jane M. Ford. 202 pgs.
Using Shakespeare's incest plots as a backdrop, Jane Ford traces the incest theme in novels by Charles Dickens, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, and James Joyce, exploring in particular the father-daughter-suitor triangle.
As Ford demonstrates, three patterns predominate: the father eliminates the suitor and retains the daughter; the father submits to outside authority and relinquishes the daughter; or the father resolves the incest threat by choosing the daughter's suitor. Ford provides evidence that the fictive characters' incest conflicts often mirror the writer's own incest dilemmas, whether subliminal or not, and she points to textual evidence for the occurrence of actual incest in The Golden Bowl and Ulysses. In readings that break with traditional criticism, Ford maintains that each of the five writers wrote final works that seemed to return to a plot of retention of the daughter by the father.
Ford's book extends an important issue in 20th-century psychology into the study of major works of literature written in English.
TEX UH, Jim, have you ever been in a book story or a place that sells books? Did you see the shelves of Romance novels? Did ya ever see even one loving wives story or incest story? If you actually believe that last paragraph you wrote then you are seriously whacked and deserve the fantasy world you inhabit.
DK You know I was all set to write something scathing since half of what I write is Romance.
TEX, DK I believe you missed my point on ROMANCE stories…
I neither dislike nor disparage ROMANCE story writers. In fact I myself have often been referred to by my fans as the “King of Incestuous Romance”. I’m a sucker for a happy ending. My stories all end with the handsome, big cocked lead falling in love with his beautiful sister/mother/daughter/niece/son? and living happily ever after.
You haven’t yet grasped that what I don’t like is ROMANCE stories winning an inordinate number of contest prizes simply based on the fact ROMANCE readers by nature vote higher than other category readers. That’s it!
I hate to see critics and intellectuals disparage ROMANCE authors in the real world…authors who write in the most competitive market for often very small returns. They are the true working stiffs out there…
And that’s why it pisses me off to see you AHers belittle “popular” authors in other categories and make fun of their readers on this site in your oh so smug way.
All readers are good as far as I’m concerned. I don’t care what their motivation or education is…
My theory is: If he or she’s reading Scouries today maybe he or she will be reading Shakespeare tomorrow…which really isn’t that great a leap… see below. mr TEX, it seems that you can buy “incest” stories at your bookstore…Shakespeare, Dickens, Joyce, James, Conrad…and what about the Greek myths…Oedipus maybe…
Patriarchy and Incest from Shakespeare to Joyce
by Jane M. Ford. 202 pgs.
Using Shakespeare's incest plots as a backdrop, Jane Ford traces the incest theme in novels by Charles Dickens, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, and James Joyce, exploring in particular the father-daughter-suitor triangle.
As Ford demonstrates, three patterns predominate: the father eliminates the suitor and retains the daughter; the father submits to outside authority and relinquishes the daughter; or the father resolves the incest threat by choosing the daughter's suitor. Ford provides evidence that the fictive characters' incest conflicts often mirror the writer's own incest dilemmas, whether subliminal or not, and she points to textual evidence for the occurrence of actual incest in The Golden Bowl and Ulysses. In readings that break with traditional criticism, Ford maintains that each of the five writers wrote final works that seemed to return to a plot of retention of the daughter by the father.
Ford's book extends an important issue in 20th-century psychology into the study of major works of literature written in English.