Your best critique

NotWise

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So what is the best critique you've gotten? Maybe this isn't a great question for the writers who've been here for a while.

For me it's been "Your story sux..." and possibly the critic recognizes the quotation.
 
So what is the best critique you've gotten? Maybe this isn't a great question for the writers who've been here for a while.

For me it's been "Your story sux..." and possibly the critic recognizes the quotation.

How come?

If I'm honest, the best critique puts me over the moon and leaves me walking on a cloud for the rest of the day, lol. :D That's the best inspiration to keep writing for me, if my stories have affected a reader. Negatively doesn't count. :(
 
Are you talking about the most amusing critique, or the most useful one?

Most amusing so far:

Damn! What a naive and stretched boy fantasizing ..

Have you just kids here will write? - Now there is no adult and EXPRIENCED writers?

http://www.darkniciad.com/hotlink_pics/dafuq_read.jpg

The most useful critiques have come from first reads by other authors here. Not only were they detailed and on point, they gave me a chance to fix things before anyone else saw them :)

So far as reader critiques from published stories, I've been called out for name transpositions, ( sometimes across two stories I'm writing at the same time LOL ) culture references that clash with the character's age/etc., a common phrase that made absolutely no sense in a fantasy world, a poorly phrased reference to daylight savings, and umpteen typos/spelling/grammar errors that made it through the editing process.

I've had a few detailed constructive critiques from readers here -- mostly through emails.
 
For me it's been constructive yet still overall positive. If someone who doesn't get my writing voice or style tears my writing apart, it does get to me but at the same time I'm not going to rewrite it to just please them. So to answer your question, anytime someone who likes the type of stories I write and gives me positive feedback is a good critique.
I do like negative feedback too.

You have to stick to the way you write!
 
How come?

I have had readers who loved what I wrote. Others, not so much (they're slobbering troglodites, probably). The flattery is great to have but the flattery doesn't change what I do, or improve what I do.

Here I'm on the forum looking for feedback from other authors rather than from the general readers. I distrust "feel good" responses and might rather have to defend my throat.
 
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Considering the source (dr_mabeuse), this has been one of my favorite comments (on "Descent into Chaos")

Great Story

Double bitch slap of reality here on the true love front. A great little journey into the heart of darkness, beautifully told.



And I thought this one from Milkchocolateamazon on "La Lectera" was particularly nice (considering the piece is a short story, not poetry--the other commenters spoke in terms of poetry as well):

How?

I don't know how you do it but this was just amazing. I love poetry as it is and this was just amazing. It was melodic and soothing and just wonderful. I can't think of any more words for it. Just... beautiful. *sigh* xxx



As far as independent outside reviews of work, I just posted over on the Feedback Board/story advertisements a really nice, deeply literary review of the series I'm running at the moment on Literotica, "Home to Fire Island."


http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=181349&page=126 (post #3146)
 
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In first grade, I brought home a math test that I was just thrilled over. The teacher had bragged about it. My mother had bragged about it. I just could not wait to show Dad.

When he saw the 98 at the top, he asked me "What happened to the other two points?"

When I get a comment on a story that just says, "That was awesome! Please write more!" I appreciate it and feel encouraged by it, but I take it with a grain of salt.

When I get a comment on a story that says, "U sux. Kil urself b4 u bred." I picture a pint sized house ape that got on Mommy's computer without supervision and take it with a heaping teaspoon of salt.

But when I get a true critique, one that makes me back away from the story and look at what they pointed out objectively and forces me to nod and admit that they are right, I print the sucker out and staple it to the wall above my screen.

Examples;

"... But, while it is tough to do in first person, you could have given us a little more from Janet besides the dialogue. How she moved, how she stood, when she stood. Too few non-verbal cues from her made her feel like a poster on Logan's bedroom wall rather than a real woman he was infatuated with."

~or~

"I'm really not completely certain just what function the sister played here. Other than knowing he had one, her name, and the fact that he was jealous of her popularity, what was the point? In ten pages, he never interacted with her once. We could have gotten to the same point by him being an only child and unpopular at school without mentioning the sister."

~or~

"The clock, though, was a bit of a red herring. I kept expecting it to make a fifth and final appearance. Maybe falling off the wall and breaking as their passion slammed the headboard into the wall. If it was supposed to be a motif, you failed to finish it. If it wasn't, you spent far too much effort and space with his fascination with it.

"Still, in all, not a bad December/May romance."

Tough to hear on the one hand as they are pointing out something I did wrong. But at the same time exciting because it tells me where the other two points went and how to go about fixing it for the next one.
 
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=67674975&postcount=62

Soulful/Sammael Bard delivered one of the best story critiques I've ever received right there. It's the absolute best reality check smackdown the story could have asked for.

Like everyone else, I absolutely love the gushing comment and effusively praising feedback because I'm human, and it's awesome to be told how much you rock. But in terms of improving my skills though, Bard's thorough skewing and reviewing of that story is exactly what it (and I) needed. :)

Thanks again Bard, if you drop by here. :)
 
I have had readers who loved what I wrote. Others, not so much (they're slobbering troglodites, probably). The flattery is great to have but the flattery doesn't change what I do, or improve what I do.

Here I'm on the forum looking for feedback from other authors rather than from the general readers. I distrust "feel good" responses and might rather have to defend my throat.

Absolutely true. I've found that only we can choose to improve ourselves, and this is not limited to writing. If we want to improve, we will find ways to, regardless of other people's advice. I think feel good responses reflect an initial reaction, and those are always the most accurate, regardless of whether they critique the story or not, they show that as a writer, we've done something right according to at least one person.

I'm very harsh on myself and my writing so I often don't look for someone else to do the tearing for me.
 
I get plenty of FAVORITES and scores in the 4s for my alt stories, but few comments, and almost zero useful feedback. Its all LOVED IT or EAT SHIT AND DIE. My green Es and red Hs are entirely at the alt accounts.

LIT is like the worst place on Earth for valid feedback, and AH is the YeeHaw Junction for writerly advice. I cant name one LIT writer who gives any thought to the writing craft. The scholarship here is a slice or two below lick and a promise.
 
Not a critique, but this is my most treasured comment.
This is the comment that told me erotica could be something more than just stroke.

"I started with and just finished Rope and Veil, and it touched me so deeply I just had to tell you now.

Your writing in this story was hypnotic and I've had tears running down my face for the last 10 minutes which I assure you is not my usual response to erotica. This is such an extraordinary story in so many ways, and I'm going to share some personal information with you to explain why I think so.

No, I'm not a PWD, but I received my Master's degree in Occupational Therapy and spent many years working in an elite inpatient rehabilitation unit. Our unit accepted individuals with devastating injuries, mostly neuro, but only if there was a belief they could eventually become independent.

'Independent' is variable, of course; for a person with quadriplegia, independence means being able to direct one's care in the areas she can't care for herself. My job was helping people regain independence in self-care and the various life roles we all have. Part of that included real discussions about sexuality, and the changes and possibilities after accident and injury. It's a subject that came up infrequently as people were generally concerned with more urgent issues like mobility and toileting, and many patients were out within a couple of weeks to do outpatient therapy. But the folks with SCI were often there longer, and the issue would come up especially with younger patients.

I would dutifully and compassionately discuss the things I had been taught, the research I'd read, the personal accounts. At uni, we were even shown an educational video made by several people with SCI and their partners, sex tapes essentially, showing logistics and how it is possible to share sexual intimacy and supposedly have a satisfying sex life. But nothing I could tell my patients was especially reassuring because honestly, all of the information I had to share was presented as 'information', clinical and carefully neutral so as to educate and not offend, and I felt like a fraud trying to pass it off as having the potential for passion or excitement.

This story is precisely what is missing from post-SCI education, of professionals and patients, friends and lovers. Though it is fiction, it provides realism and a passionate, emotional link that is decidedly absent when thinking about approaching a sexual relationship with a PWD or having one from the perspective of a PWD.

The commenter who said she thought it was demeaning didn't get the perspective: a man who didn't have experience with a PWD, was unsure of himself, but still found himself inexorably drawn in by the power and allure of Amelia. The kink with the ropes was a nice analogy for paralysis that Alex made literal, but also a very sexy way to show things don't have to be clinical or vanilla when it comes to disabled sex. No part of your story was factually impossible, and truly, were my patients to have read it, I think it would have done more for reassuring them than all of the other literature combined.

Yes, theirs is really a sort of romance and not every man is as sensitive as Alex or every woman as bold as Amelia, but it's the vulnerability in both that makes the characters so believable. Seriously, I think this story is a work of art. If I were still working on that rehab unit, I would slip it to any patient who brought the subject up, probably even to my coworkers. We therapists aren't a squeamish or conservative lot."
 
This was an early one on my SWB series through private feedback.

Sibs. with benefits, too dark, too close to reality in its starkness and suffering. I,E. it may be well written, but certainly no longer erotic and indeed something I do not wish to read in full.

Love that comment because its exactly what I was going for. That was me my first couple of month here, charging into the happy go lucky fun, fun, fun incest category with a dark, edgy train wreck full of fucked up characters and BDSM sex. I was fucking up all their wet dreams.

Most amusing? Too many to post here, usually the ones that are over the top negative and insulting a couple that stand out.


you shit pissed and vomited on valentines day
09/19/14 By: Anonymous
i usually like your stories but this was the most fucked up excuse for a story that i have ever read


Love how they emphasize really in this one:


New Low
11/02/12 By: Anonymous
Lovecraft has hit rock bottom with this story. It REALLY sucks!



the commenters
01/24/14 By: Anonymous
are awful hard on this writer after all anyone who would submit this story has to be a little slow if not then just plain retarded.
 
Best comment...

On a loving wives story a long time ago...

You suck! I hope your wife and you die a horrible death by AIDS.
Anonymous

The idiot thought it was a true story. I love idiots.
 
General readers’ comments on my stories are mainly very positive. And the ones that aren’t positive are usually bordering on illiterate. ‘other fucking idiote who doesn’t know apostrofe from quotes mark.’ This was from someone named Anonymous. I’m assuming that Anonymous only went to school to eat his (or possibly her) lunch.

On the other hand, I have had some very useful criticism from some of the other Lit authors, Dianthus and Naoko in particular. Thank you, ladies.
 
I write for fun and for my fans' enjoyment, so I don't usually get critical feedback.

My favourite feedback wasn't on one of my stories. One of my fans wrote some silly dirty stories and asked if I would read them. Someone else wrote to me and said, he was going through a bad time and one of those stories made him laugh and forget his troubles. I had been wondering if the stories were too crude but then I decided that although Big Tits Sex Therapist might use unorthodox methods, she was doing good in her own way so I recorded some more silly stories. I think it helps when male fans hear an older woman's voice telling the story; that makes them feel they have permission to enjoy it.

This was my best comment (entitled 'I had to start over'). The fan was so immersed in the story, I can see from his detailed comment that it worked as a good stroker.
https://www.literotica.com/stories/storyfeedbackboard.php?id=934510&pagehint=2#cid4485649

I had some other feedback from a writer called fanfare on one of my own stories which pointed to things I had worked hard to write well, like characterisation. It was very cheering to hear that I had got those things right.
 
For the most part, I've been really fascinated by the feedback I've gotten for my story Hematoma, which is about a masochist and a vampire. It's got shittons of pain play and drama in it, and not every chapter has sex, simply because I really couldn't find a better avenue than Literotica to post it.

Two of my readers have told me they suffer from chronic pain, and they both told me the same thing...
I think every chapter has been equisitely written. Having no predilection for pain myself (in actual fact, I have chronic pain conditions I'm trying to get rid of :p), I feel as though your writing puts me in a place where pain is very erotic and hot. That's quite a feat, let me tell you :) i could not be more anti-pain :)

During the chapter in which I reveal the vampire character, I was told that I managed to write the reveal well enough that it wasn't cheesy or cliche at all. I worked really, REALLY hard on that, because everyone knows that vampire reveals can be the worst thing ever.

Someone else...

Well told. Well edited. Likeable hero. Nasty subject. Makes me feel too lonesome and sorry for myself. I'll skip the rest.
This is Literature. There ought to be a publisher for this kind of story. Good luck, good bye

I have to say this was probably one of the best responses I've ever gotten. It made me sad that this person wouldn't continue reading, but I think that I accomplished the feeling I was looking for... Even if it had some bad consequences.

But critique? I can't seem to get any. I'd love to find someone who says "Your story sucks and this is why".
 
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In terms of writing, I'd absolutely love to kidnap Lady Ver, pack her into a room and have her edit my stories. They are the best I've ever seen. I'm still amazed by she beautifies the proses and sentence structure. :rose:

Lien_Geller reviewed two of my stories and he hits the nail right on its head. I find his critiques very useful and an eye-opener of sorts. When I submitted those stories, I knew something was missing but couldn't put a finger on what exactly. Reading his critiques had me experiencing the "light bulb" moment.

Naoko's beta-reading skills are awesome. She amazed me by her level of proficiency. Thanks to her, I have a small W on my submission list.

Of course, most of what I talked about was mostly people reviewing my stories before I hit the submit button. But I'd still consider that as a critique that helped me improve my trade.


http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=67674975&postcount=62

Soulful/Sammael Bard delivered one of the best story critiques I've ever received right there. It's the absolute best reality check smackdown the story could have asked for.

Like everyone else, I absolutely love the gushing comment and effusively praising feedback because I'm human, and it's awesome to be told how much you rock. But in terms of improving my skills though, Bard's thorough skewing and reviewing of that story is exactly what it (and I) needed. :)

Thanks again Bard, if you drop by here. :)

My pleasure. ;)
 
I don't get many comments on my stories, and of those, I can't think of any that were a helpful critique.

I do enjoy the comments from people who say they don't usually read or enjoy sci-fi (or horror or fantasy) but they really liked my story. I don't have the talent or reach to accomplish this, but I would love if genre fiction began to be more accepted as mainstream literature, and not relegated to the genre shelves at the library of bookstore.

The critiques I really cherish and find most helpful and useful are those from my friends who read/edit my stories for me before I post them. I have some very talented, insightful, discerning friends.
 
I don't get many comments on my stories, and of those, I can't think of any that were a helpful critique.

I do enjoy the comments from people who say they don't usually read or enjoy sci-fi (or horror or fantasy) but they really liked my story. I don't have the talent or reach to accomplish this, but I would love if genre fiction began to be more accepted as mainstream literature, and not relegated to the genre shelves at the library of bookstore.

The critiques I really cherish and find most helpful and useful are those from my friends who read/edit my stories for me before I post them. I have some very talented, insightful, discerning friends.

suggest a story for me to read. I'll send my opinion PM rather than public.
 
I never solicit feedback, rarely get it, and what I get is never useful.

On the othehand I've had plenty of feedback in the form of editor comments from sales, plus test scores. During my professional career lawyers and judges loved my writing, social workers hated it. LITs the same. People like what they like, and what they like isn't relevant to the writing craft.
 
I have one semi-regular commenter who announced I was psychopathic after reading one story (I think Toymaker - in fairness, if you want to decide I'm a psychopath, that's the one to read.). Then she read the sequel, Angelwatch, and publically apologized. Other than the feel-good moment, it made me realise that some people believe you are what you write.

A favorite public comment:
hawt and so very fucked up

This is dystopian kind of fantasy. Is it weird that it makes me shudder in revulsion and turned on at the same time? Weird.

Exactly what I was aiming for; my premise is that in sex, some things we reject with the superego during the day, the id cries for at night.

But the best are a few emails where people thanked me because they found and understood something about themselves in my stories.
 
My best was from Sammael Bard:

"I like your writing style. A Dom (I'm assuming here the one narrating the tale is a Dom) has a powerful voice, and he exudes power and control from the first two paragraphs itself. It feels perfectly done. The tone, the casually bored feel to it is something that I liked immensely. I should say that's a job done pretty dang good!"

"With a writing of this calibre, it's easily one of the best things I've read here."

"You have a great writing style, and in the end, all of my enjoyment boils down to this factor. I give you a 5* for this writing style. It's truly well done."

There were things he didn't like about my story, too.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=70360319&postcount=160

https://www.literotica.com/s/bella-donna-ch-01
 
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