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... sounds smarter than The Return of the Primitive...
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That's quite a novel interpretation of the concept of socialism, quite far from the classic definition.How is a subsidy socialism? In the basest form, any form of taxation for social purposes is socialism whether it be for welfare, social security, unemployment, civic services, and so on.
No one ever owns anything save by government fiat.Socialism at its core attempts to determine what you may possess through what may be produced. It steals before you possess a thing and thereafter saying that, because you never possessed it, you never owned it and aren't entitled to it.
Very possibly you are correct. But there is more to the story than that, and not for the reasons you may think.If Trump wins the popular vote, then mainstream media will start forgetting everything it said against Trump and claim it has always liked and supported Trump's goals. And then you can have that answered by talking heads, pundits, and corporate media influencers.
It's scary for them outside the echo chamber.It would be hard to understand why Trump was elected in such a landslide as long as you live in an echo chamber. Trying to read this thread was funny because all the same talking point that have been planted in the "minds" of the liberals just keeps getting vomited out to be eaten again and again. Exit the echo chamber if you really want to understand this.
All those regulations and taxes are the socialization of ALL the means of production. Especially the most important means of production, labor.No, it isn't. Socialism requires, at the very least, the nationalization, or in some sense the socialization, of some substantial part of the means of production. There is no socialism in the social democracies.
Yes it is. And that is why they cling together and keep chanting the same old same old. That is also why the can't let themselves listen objectively to any other viewpoint. That in turn is why they go nuts.It's scary for them outside the echo chamber.
I think you got it covered there.Yes it is. And that is why they cling together and keep chanting the same old same old. That is also why the can't let themselves listen objectively to any other viewpoint. That in turn is why they go nuts.
That has notably failed to happen.If Trump wins the popular vote, then mainstream media will start forgetting everything it said against Trump and claim it has always liked and supported Trump's goals. And then you can have that answered by talking heads, pundits, and corporate media influencers.
Only, they don't.All those regulations and taxes are the socialization of ALL the means of production. Especially the most important means of production, labor.
Social democracies are FULL of it. That's why they treat people who engage in independent/free economic activities worse than murderers and kiddy diddlers....... That's what you like about them so much.
They do....that's why you and the other Europhiles NEVER actually pack your shit and get for the promised land of socialism.Only, they don't.
They do....that's why you and the other Europhiles NEVER actually pack your shit and get for the promised land of socialism.