'Yes Sir,Dom/mes"-"What's in a name?'

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People are often confused about what people are called in the sadomasochistic community. Are all Master's Doms? Are all Mistresses Dominatrix? Is a submissive the same as a slave?Why did that Masochist refuse to tie me up?

Like the U.S. federal tax codes,there are no hard and fast rules.
And like food labeling,there isnt any regulating mechanisms in place to keep D/s players from pretty much calling themselves anything they like.

I think that the first thing to remember is as with other appellations,there are those words that are titular and those that are descriptive.Titular words such as 'Lord" or "Master" are the most confusing for beginners, for just like the likers of fine wine,people are forever attaching their names to things that have achieved success or are renown.

Players often have their own highly thought out and personal reasons for why they choose to call themselves "Mistress" over Madam',but we beginners need only remember one thing:
nine out of ten times,people who use a title are dominant.
Keeping this in mind will help you to find the partner of your dreams,I feel.,whether it be online,or at a club or social event.
While some dominants prefer that their bottoms address them by their particular title,unless you are told otherwise,think of "Dom,'Mistress" and "Sir" as being equivalent.

If you enter into a relationship or even a "one-spank stand" with a dominant,a good rule of thumb is that as in everythging else.dominants are called as THEY wish to be, and call submissives as THEY wish to.

On the other hand,descriptive apellations can be a Major help in understanding what an individual's preferences are.
Masters,Doms,Mistresses.and tops all have one thing in common.
They will expect their partners to Willingly yield to them. Similarly ,subs,slaves,and bottoms,are all people who surrender control.

Dom/mes ,"How do YOU prefer your sub to address you"?

Subs? "What name does your Dom/me call you that really "does it "for you? How do you prefer to be called?"
 
Wow!

If I am chatting with a Dom whom I have met through formal introduction, I will immediately either ask him what he prefers, or begin with Sir.

If I am chatting with a Dom who has contacted me vis a vis personal ads, he sets the tone.

In general, "Sir" is a term of respect and endearment for me. Generally, I will not use it until I feel a connection or feel some of that special respect that occurs between a Dom and sub.

Calling one's self a Dom doesn't require or deserve the respect due a Dom. There are many players out there.

And then, I am jaded.
 
Artful's dream said:

Dom/mes ,"How do YOU prefer your sub to address you"?

Online,...I prefer to be addressed in a respectful manner by ALL,...and that includes my slave,(Dream). Titles and honorifics are not necessary,...but it does not offend me when they are used in a respectful manner.

In real life, (skin-to-skin),...I may require different forms of addressment by my slave, depending on how I want to be addressed at any particular time, but as online,...I expect only to be addressed respectfully by all others. :rose:
 
My point is that I can treat you with respect without resorting to formal titles etc.

Earning the respect to be called "Sir" requires a bit of history or reason for respect.

I have watched a friend of mine address every Dom she contacts "Sir." Yes, this was in a chat room setting.

If felt that it negated the meaning behind the term and certainly, watching her giggle while she did it, didn't demonstrate any sense of true BDSM to me.

No...not getting into that "other" arguement.

However, as has happened here at lit, a poster came in with a nickname Sir~~~~, he required that he be called Sir. Givent hat that was his requirement, I didn't post with him or to him.


"Sir" is special to me. I explain that to anyone I chat with. I believe they are very pleased if I find myself naturally calling them Sir out of respect or care. This, as opposed to calling then "Sir" because anyone who calls themself Dom is a Sir.

Babbling again....

*warm smiles to all*
 
!!!Dream???

I like to be called by my first name.

Is that you, Dream? If so, who's that other person that writes under your name? Can we vote on your style of writing? If so, I vote this way!

Have you been messing with our heads?

Lance
 
Re;Messing with heads

Well Lance,let's see here .. It could be a case of multiple -personality disorder ..or perhaps it MAY be the aliens from x-files have taken over my body,but irregardless.depending upon my many many mood-swings"..all my posts are MINE ,I assure you of that,the avy's may change faster than I change my panties when Master is getting me *HOT* but the "insight" is mine alone and I thank you very much for your kind words.


my *choice* that I PREFER to be called by my Master Artful is when He calls me "slave' or M'love because no other bears those 2 names in His heart but Me , and me Alone..I enjoy the 'endearing term of baby , and love" but anyone can be called that,only I call my Master that privately though..

In public I will address Him as He respectfully deserves to be ,my Master,period..:heart: ~:heart:
 
This topic was recently dicussed in an open one on one forum at the Sanctuary here in Atlanta. Generrally what has been said through out this thread is all correct.

Preferences and pet names are between the Dom/mes and the sub/slave My preference is "My Master" as it entones the very essence of who I am with my "pet"

Master David
 
I have discovered this.....

about myself........

I cannot refer to anyone as Master or Sir in reference to sexual activity. It's just not me. However in terms of courtesy, I refer to many as sir or ma'am.

I like a dominate partner.

I am not sexually aggressive, therefore I am a sexually submissive person.
 
Depends on the nature of the relationship.

I do not refer to anyone as master or dom at the moment,as he doesnt like those words.

I have been told I could call someone master,but alas he was only teasing.

Being a Dom online does not automaticcaly make me submit.

I will be respectful,thats all I can promise.
 
thank you

to punjab,Rose and LTR for all your answers.I agree LTR,that He would have to earn my respect first just as Artful did before I ever started calling Him my Master...:heart: :rose:
 
punjab said:
Preferences and pet names are between the Dom/mes and the sub/slave My preference is "My Master" as it entones the very essence of who I am with my "pet"

Master David

Yet continually I misbehave and call you "my David" instead, whatever shall you do?

Kitten
 
Personally, I have issues with Doms instructing me to call them by a certain title before we have established a true relationship. They are dominant sexually, and deserving of respect - just as is everyone, until proven otherwise. But titles are something that, to me, denote a special relationship, something that has taken time to build and grow.

I have no problem using the term "Master" in roleplay, but I don't believe I could ever really consider my Dominant to actualy be my "Master" in the full sense of the word. Just as I could never be anyone's "slave". Slave, to me, is defined as one who has no rights, no say, no opinions, and simply follows directions, instructions and orders. For me, there is a BIG difference between being a "submissive" and being a "slave". The two are not equal.

Likewise, "Master" and Dominant are not equal, either. They are very different things.

What I perfer to call a Dom is entirely something to be discussed he and I. I would expect it to be something different than what has been used before, just as his name for me would be different than what I've ever experienced.

But then, that's my .02 worth.
 
Dom/mes ,"How do YOU prefer your sub to address you"?

My boy calls me 'my Mistress' or 'my Lady' depending on what we are doing.

Wonderful thread, Artful's Dream.
Thank you.


Helena:rose:
 
Neither

Interesting thread Dream!

Personally, my partner and I switch between being dominant and submissive, so neither of us like to use the honorific titles such as Master/Mistress Sub/Slave.

Sometimes in the heat of the moment, I will refer to her us a slut/bitch and on very odd occasions slave, but generally the dominant partner is just treated with more respect and deferred to in all matters. The title is just an unimportant matter for us - it is always obvious who is in charge.

That seems to be the trend for the answers in this thread - it is personal preference and a matter of respect more than the title itself.
 
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Artful's dream said:
to punjab,Rose and LTR for all your answers.I agree LTR,that He would have to earn my respect first just as Artful did before I ever started calling Him my Master...:heart: :rose:

You are right about the respect and trust being earned. Without either what ever you are called is unearned and unimportant.


Master David
 
I was raised to be respectful of anyone I come in contact with so it comes natural for me to say, "Sir" or "Maam"...

As for any kind of sexual contact, it goes as already stated...must be earned or if I feel the strength of the person I'm addressing, it will automatically come natural.

Respectfully,

Liza
 
Artful's dream said:


Subs? "What name does your Dom/me call you that really "does it "for you? How do you prefer to be called?"


I will address anyone with respect that deserves it, however, I will not address anyone as Master or Mistress at this point in my life. It is a title I reserve for a time when I am truely in a long term relationship with someone. I don't roleplay, but even if I did, I don't think I could use these honorifics....it's like my long-gone virginity, only this I want to save for the right person *smile*

I will however, address someone as Sir or Ma'am, and usually address any Dom/me that I play with in this manner during a scene. There are certain people that I have deeper relationships with that I always address as Sir or Ma'am.

As for what I like to be called....I love being addressed as "young lady" or "little one" depending on the context of the relationship. I get nothing out of being called slut or bitch, in a recent play date the dom was calling me his 'little slut' and it was irritating me to no end. From someone whom I have a deeper relationship with I likely wouldn't have minded, but in that instance it wasn't doing much for me except insult me.

My favorite affectionate nickname is 'jewel', some of my closest friends, both sub and Dom, call me that and it's very special to me.
 
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punjab said:


You are right about the respect and trust being earned. Without either what ever you are called is unearned and unimportant.


Master David
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thank you once agin for your comments and I hope I am showing you the "proper respect" you deserve by callin you by your screen name ..:)
 
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serijules said:



I will address anyone with respect that deserves it, however, I will not address anyone as Master or Mistress at this point in my life. It is a title I reserve for a time when I am truely in a long term relationship with someone. I don't roleplay, but even if I did, I don't think I could use these honorifics....it's like my long-gone virginity, only this I want to save for the right person *smile*

I will however, address someone as Sir or Ma'am, and usually address any Dom/me that I play with in this manner during a scene. There are certain people that I have deeper relationships with that I always address as Sir or Ma'am.

As for what I like to be called....I love being addressed as "young lady" or "little one" depending on the context of the relationship. I get nothing out of being called slut or bitch, in a recent play date the dom was calling me his 'little slut' and it was irritating me to no end. From someone whom I have a deeper relationship with I likely wouldn't have minded, but in that instance it wasn't doing much for me except insult me.

My favorite affectionate nickname is 'jewel', some of my closest friends, both sub and Dom, call me that and it's very special to me.
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I totally respect what you said serijules and hope to become better friends with you myself as you reallyt have alot of insightful posts..i also find the term "slut" to be derogatory and insulting but have let my Master know that in 'play"if He is more comfortable & excited using those terms with me then I can handle it ..if howeve I was called one in public ,that would be a different matter entirely ,bordering on disrespect....I am in an LDR/LTR with Him so find it EASY to call Him Master as He HAS earned my love ,trust and respect..:rose:
 
Artful,

The respect you are showing by using my screen name is all I ask as you have no pesonal knowledge or r/t with me. Only then could you or anyone else truly reply int he manner I would earn. This is not an invitation just the truth as I see it.

Master David
 
punjab

with all due respect punjab,I ask that you address me as Dream (everyone else does) as Artful is the name of my Master(online name)..thank -you very much..:rose:
 
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Artful's dream said:
with all due respect punjab,I ask that you address me as Dream (everyone else does) as Artful is the name of my Master(online name)..thank -you very much..:rose:


I can honor and respect that without hesitation.

Master David
 
I prefer to be called...

Master by my sub. Whether or not she is collared (which she isn't) that is the title that I desire to be called.

I do not like sir, nor would I ever want any sub online to call me that thinking they have either an obligation to do so or that I desire it. I do not.

I cgenerally call my sub either slave or slut but both. It works for us, which is the real issue in my book.
 
Zipman7, I agree.
When you get down to it, all that matters is that both people in the relationship feel comfortable with what they are calling each other. The pet names that I use for my boy, I will not be using on another should I take another boy into my kennel. Those names fit my boy. They would not fit another. They are special to him because he is special to me.


Helena:rose:
 
My Dom often looks down at me sitting at his feet, smiles affectionately and calls me his "little slut". I get all gooey inside and say, "yes, Sir", because I know I am. Sometimes He calls me baby girl or little one but I always call Him Sir. It's so instinctual I have a hard time saying His real name to my nilla friends. Someday - maybe - I will call Him Master.

Of all the Doms I have met online, only one of them has earned my respect to the point where I call him Sir. He calls me his pet, even though we both know I'm not any more his pet than he is my Sir. It's a matter of mutual respect and playful friendship. My Sir has friends He respects and has me address as Andrew Sir or Rick Sir or whatever. Even if I've just met these people, I honor Sir by honoring his friends.
 
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