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They're going to need several million body bags if they go down that road. And these aren't uneducated peasants, they're the core of their work force. You look at what pix and videos have managed to leak out and you see a LOT of young faces in the crowd. To be expected to an extent but that merely points out another dirty little secret the CCP has tried to tamp down. An unusually high (~24%) unemployment rate among the 21-30 Univ. educated cohort. Given that the CCP doesn't tolerate the sociology/studies horse shit courses that permeate Western Univ. we're taking about primarily engineers and scientists. The CCP, while encouraging those courses of study, was not putting in place the economic underpinnings that would provide them employment. It is a large cohort and one that China desperately needs if it wants to continue to grow their economy. In other words if the CCP wants to 'disappear' them they will at the same time be 'disappearing' their own future.
You cull a cancer.
China has always been a top-down Mafia-style intimidation scheme.
The people are conditioned to it and the elimination of those who do not conform further drives that point home.
Not everyone yearns to be "free." That's just us and when it comes to staying employed,
that freedom is a tad bit illusionary; a lie we tell ourselves...
China has always been a top-down Mafia-style intimidation scheme.
The people are conditioned to it and the elimination of those who do not conform further drives that point home.
Not everyone yearns to be "free." That's just us and when it comes to staying employed,
that freedom is a tad bit illusionary; a lie we tell ourselves...
The problem there is that the liberalization of the economy over the last 30 years has substantially raised the expectations of the Chinese people. Couple that with the fact that the internationalization of their economy has exposed huge numbers of the population to the outside world. These are not Mao's peasants that the party is trying to push around.
Yeah, when the educated and enlightened cause instability and violence, Mao and his peasants won't be far behind because it all falls on their shoulders and there's a HELLOFALOT more of them who look to the party for nothing more than stability. China still doesn't have enough of a middle-class to sustain a revolution. The poor and the rich never revolt.
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Mao killed about 3.5 million small landlords in 53/54 another 50 million peasants by starvation in 58/59 and tens of millions more in the late 60's. Xi will do the same if he thinks it necessary. Internal security has been China's problem for the past 3000 years; the answer is always the same kill them all or another dynasty will take over. The CCP is just another dynasty.
China's main threat is not militarily but economically, because we depend on them for cheap consumer goods. It might be in our best economic and social interests if Xi did kill 20 or 30 million people while we just look the other way and say a few mean things about him.
China's main threat is not militarily but economically, because we depend on them for cheap consumer goods. It might be in our best economic and social interests if Xi did kill 20 or 30 million people while we just look the other way and say a few mean things about him.
Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, India, Malaysia, the list goes on. Currently our second largest trading partner is Mexico and that relationship is expected to grow damn near exponentially. Then there's most of the rest of S. America. The only continent no one's talking about is Africa.
You name countries that would allow a developing middle class which would demand higher wage growth.
Additionally, we would have to supply the capital, which which quickly be nationalized in at least half of those countries.
I.e., we've tried South America before...
Additionally, we would have to supply the capital, which which quickly be nationalized in at least half of those countries.
I.e., we've tried South America before...
That's true no matter where you go.
Yeah, S. America still has some political issues, most of them revolve around their trying to hold on to the old 'Patron' style of governance.
That's true no matter where you go. For example, in the past 25 years the cost of labor in China has increased 14 fold while productivity has only increased 5 fold. The Chinese economic imperative of bodies employed over productivity is beginning to bite them in the ass already. Most of the garment industry has already moved to Vietnam, China is left with the fabric weaving and dyeing now. Electronics assembly is moving to Thailand and Mexico. China has been left with the modern equivalent of manufacturing wind up toys made of tin. As far as 'Nationalization' goes, even China learned from observation that that was the path to economic ruin.
Yeah, S. America still has some political issues, most of them revolve around their trying to hold on to the old 'Patron' style of governance.
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Oh well ....
What began as dissent against rigid zero-Covid-19 controls has turned into broader opposition to the government.
China Protests Spread Across the Country, Spooking Markets
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.barrons.com.icoBarron's|11 minutes agoWhat began as dissent against rigid zero-Covid-19 controls has turned into broader opposition to the government.
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One of the interesting things about the Chinese developed vaccines is that they are not nearly so effective as the European and American products. In particular they are much less effective for old people. I can see the CCP eventually deciding to let Covid go because economically, enabling the elderly population to take an early exit would decrease pensions expenditure drastically, and relieve pressure on an already over stressed Health Services sector.
One mans view of what's happening in China.
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