Writing Goal for the Day?

[lovecraft68]

No, but I've met with editors at the Simon and Shuster level who were wearing jeans and sandals--and when I was the managing editor of a smaller, academic publishing house I wore whatever I damn well pleased. It didn't have anything to do with the job--and everyone else in the field was wearing what they damn well pleased too. Those above me were dressing a lot more scraggy than I was (but I come from a conservative dress tradition), and jeans certainly weren't cause to throw someone out of a business meeting.

I think you misconstrue what is most important in a job and aren't working all that hard to make a "perfect candidate" fit the job. Of course, maybe you had other perfect candidates that day who dressed to your expectations and you hired them. It's certainly a hirer's market at the moment. That's information you haven't provided, but would at least be sensible in job hiring practice.

Did you at least clue this person in to why you didn't go further with the interview process? If not, that wasn't very noble, was it?

Again, I found it bizarre and wrongheaded to be posted here.

Of course you met with them. You would have met with any example RJ gave.

And of course the higher ups wear whatever the hell they want. For two reasons, one they can. Two mucky mucks love to dress scraggy as you say, it makes them feel cool and trendy, Like real people.

I'm not surprised you would not dress that way, your too stuck up and conceited (thats another way to say conservative BTW) That and your wife took over your mom's job of picking out your clothes everyday.

Oh, and I know I'm not a professional editor or anything but "hirer's"?

Really not sure that's a word. Good thing you were managing the editors and not doing the editing.

 

[lovecraft68]

So closing in on having my latest done, and since I haven't posted a lot in the BDSM category drifted over into their top lists to see what kind of "support" the stories get over there.

Holy shit, what a low voted category! There are stories over there that are 3 weeks old with single digit votes, and most have a couple of dozen tops.

I'm going to set my bar for 50. It's a first chapter it may hit it.

 

[sr71plt]

Really not sure that's a word. Good thing you were managing the editors and not doing the editing.

And so typical of you to swiftboat without looking it up--just as you didn't look me up when given the means to do so. (Because it's a legitimate word, used legitimately, good buddy. )

 

[soflabbwlvr]

Shallow now..okay, let's agree to disagree. Perhaps it's just me, but I find wearing jeans and boots to a FORMAL job interview kind of an afront. Maybe I was raised to know that meeting someone to get a job would dictate wearing appropriate clothing. Maybe I was taught in my business classes that jeans to an interview is inappropriate attire, like wearing halter tops, tube tops, t-shirts...

Would you wear jeans and Timberlands to a meeting with an editor at a top-notch publishing house like Simon and Shuster?

The general rule is to dress for an interview the same as dressing for a job. Over-dressing is frowned upon the same as under-dressing. Over-dressing reflects lack of familiarity with what the job entails, while under-dressing indicates the candidate does not take the process seriously.

I have interviewed dozens of candidates for positions in my profession, in which a suit and tie is required. Without fail, the few who did not dress appropriately were not invited back for a second interview.

I also remember the time in high school when I arrived at in interview for a position in a print shop wearing a three piece suit. The shop owner chuckled throughout the very brief conversation. Needless to say, I didn't get a call back.

 

[PennLady]

Shallow now..okay, let's agree to disagree. Perhaps it's just me, but I find wearing jeans and boots to a FORMAL job interview kind of an afront. Maybe I was raised to know that meeting someone to get a job would dictate wearing appropriate clothing. Maybe I was taught in my business classes that jeans to an interview is inappropriate attire, like wearing halter tops, tube tops, t-shirts...

Would you wear jeans and Timberlands to a meeting with an editor at a top-notch publishing house like Simon and Shuster?

Yeah, I have to say, I'd never show up to an interview in jeans. And if I was in a hiring position, I don't think I'd be impressed with someone who did -- although I'll allow that for some jobs, it may not matter. I was taught in classes, and by my parents, and by articles that I read that you should dress appropriately, and if nothing else, that specifically meant no jeans.

 

[lovecraft68]

Really not sure that's a word. Good thing you were managing the editors and not doing the editing.

And so typical of you to swiftboat without looking it up--just as you didn't look me up when given the means to do so. (Because it's a legitimate word, used legitimately, good buddy. )

Is that why spell check is lighting it up?

Not to mention, say it out loud Hirer's then say employers.

Which makes you sound like the cretin you are?

 

[sr71plt]

This is delicious. You rely on spellcheck rather than an actual dictionary.

And then you have the balls to talk about someone else being a cretin.

 

[PennLady]

Is that why spell check is lighting it up?

Not to mention, say it out loud Hirer's then say employers.

Which makes you sound like the cretin you are?

Spell check is hardly the final word on what is spelled correctly. It's listed as a noun in Merriam-Webster's online dictionary. Click here to see. Also has an entry at yourdictionary.com.

And "employer" is not necessarily synonymous with hirer. I was interviewed and hired by someone at my last job, but she was not my employer. She was my supervisor. She didn't own the company or anything like that.

 

[RjThoughts]

The general rule is to dress for an interview the same as dressing for a job. Over-dressing is frowned upon the same as under-dressing. Over-dressing reflects lack of familiarity with what the job entails, while under-dressing indicates the candidate does not take the process seriously.

I have interviewed dozens of candidates for positions in my profession, in which a suit and tie is required. Without fail, the few who did not dress appropriately were not invited back for a second interview.

I also remember the time in high school when I arrived at in interview for a position in a print shop wearing a three piece suit. The shop owner chuckled throughout the very brief conversation. Needless to say, I didn't get a call back.

I never said he should have worn a suit, or even a tie. At the least he should have realized jeans weren't appropriate. Khakis and a Polo would have been fine. I wore a tie today because, well, the cousin said I had to..or no bonus next time LOL

I didn't toss his resume and applications away. He's been placed fourth on the "Second Interview" pile.

I worked a month in a print shop, STILL smell ink LOL And I wore a tie to the interview, only because I like wearing them.


I still say there's a blot punny in all of this. Who's writing something on this sidetracked topic?

 

[lovecraft68]

Spell check is hardly the final word on what is spelled correctly. It's listed as a noun in Merriam-Webster's online dictionary. Click here to see. Also has an entry at yourdictionary.com.

And "employer" is not necessarily synonymous with hirer. I was interviewed and hired by someone at my last job, but she was not my employer. She was my supervisor. She didn't own the company or anything like that.

You mean the web site he went and found it on? The internet where he gets everything he allegedly thinks he knows from? You betcha.

I can honestly say I have never heard the word Hirer. When said out loud it sounds like something a kid would say, which is why I incorrectly thought it was not a word. I really don't think I would ever say it though.

Course I have had the same job all of my adult life so have not spoken to many hirer's.

My company does however, refer to the supervisors who are doing the hiring as an Interviewer.

I also think in context "an employers market" sounds fine.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

I never said he should have worn a suit, or even a tie. At the least he should have realized jeans weren't appropriate.

I never said you did. I just used my experiences as examples.

 

[RjThoughts]

I never said you did. I just used my experiences as examples.

I know, I just clinged on to your entry is all. Like pickup basketball in the day: No Blood No Foul.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

I know, I just clinged on to your entry is all. Like pickup basketball in the day: No Blood No Foul.

That, BTW, is the backdrop for the story I am currently writing. And with that, we are back on topic.

 

[sr71plt]

You mean the web site he went and found it on? The internet where he gets everything he allegedly thinks he knows from? You betcha.

Ummm, no. I knew it was a word. And when I looked it up after your challenge in the Miriam-Websters edition 11 (print; 2003 printing, page 589) sitting next to my computer, I confirmed I was right. And I used it in this exact context, because the one doing the interviewing wasn't the employer.

You're looking pretty silly with that egg all over your face--and your post shows how discombobulated you are in your scratching for position on this. (That's a word too, by the way)

And I've noticed that you just are breezing by the issue of my backgroud. That's also delicious, because there are folks posting to this thread who know you have egg all over your face on that too. And they were given the same reference point you were.

Your swiftboating isn't panning out to you very well, is it? Every day there's another chip in your campaign here.

 

[RjThoughts]

That, BTW, is the backdrop for the story I am currently writing. And with that, we are back on topic.

And as soon as I said "No blood.." a blot punny bit me, a rush of a story idea came to me about how we used to play basketball at the park, against NYC playgrounders, and how they liked that we "Country Upstaters" wouldn't call every little ticky-tack foul.

(They also liked how we all met at a pizzeria after games and didn't bitch if a player didn't have money to pitch in.)

 

[lovecraft68]

You mean the web site he went and found it on? The internet where he gets everything he allegedly thinks he knows from? You betcha.

Ummm, no. I knew it was a word. And when I looked it up after your challenge in the Miriam-Websters edition 11 (print) sitting next to my computer, I confirmed I was right. And I used it in this exact context, because the one doing the interviewing wasn't the employer.

You're looking pretty silly with that egg all over your face--and your post shows how discombobulated you are in your scratching for position on this. (That's a word too, by the way)

And I've noticed that you just are breezing by the issue of my backgroud. That's also delicious, because there are folks posting to this thread who know you have egg all over your face on that too. And they were given the same reference point you were.

Your swiftboating isn't panning out to you very well, is it? Every day there's another chip in your campaign here.

Oh, you are going to goad me with bringing in others?

Ohhhh, how I have waited for this.

because you see fool, your doing that admits to all that I have gotten to you.

Pissed you off to the point that Mister could care less what anyone says has had to resort to going to others and saying

"Okay look, I need your help. Next time Lovecraft picks on me I need you to jump in and help me! My sad little ego has been bruised and I need your help! Lets get him! Here is a link with a name that may or may not be me!"

Oh yes, oh how sad you look.

Nothing has changed since school has it Pilot? Teacher their picking on me! Daddy their picking on me! Professor their picking on me! Mistress Lynn, Penn Lady, he's picking on me!

In another post, and fairly recently under the pen name discussion, you said that even many of your publishers don't know your real name. But you'll blurt it out to some people on a porn site? Just to prove something?

Wrong. In this day and age, it is easy to create an alias or better yet pick a person who exists to match any story you want. Any history you want. I worked for ten years as a PI for an insurance company investigating fraudulent workman's comp cases as well as identity theft. You would be amazed at how far people will go.

so anyone can feel free to chime in and tell me who he wants you to think he is. It will be wasted breath. I'll just counter with a story about someone in RI I would like to be.

So I have called you out on your dare. Now call me out on the one I gave you.

Call me. 401-580-5827. I gave you this number in a PM, but you didn't have the balls. Will you now?

I fucking dare you to have the stones to let me hear your voice. I'll even invite anyone on this thread to do it, to see that I'll answer and that it's me.

Better do it quick before my number gets edited by the mod you will run screaming to.

 

[RjThoughts]

Oh, you are going to goad me with bringing in others?

Ohhhh, how I have waited for this.

because you see fool, your doing that admits to all that I have gotten to you.

Pissed you off to the point that Mister could care less what anyone says has had to resort to going to others and saying

"Okay look, I need your help. Next time Lovecraft picks on me I need you to jump in and help me! My sad little ego has been bruised and I need your help! Lets get him! Here is a link with a name that may or may not be me!"

Oh yes, oh how sad you look.

Nothing has changed since school has it Pilot? Teacher their picking on me! Daddy their picking on me! Professor their picking on me! Mistress Lynn, Penn Lady, he's picking on me!

In another post, and fairly recently under the pen name discussion, you said that even many of your publishers don't know your real name. But you'll blurt it out to some people on a porn site? Just to prove something?

Wrong. In this day and age, it is easy to create an alias or better yet pick a person who exists to match any story you want. Any history you want. I worked for ten years as a PI for an insurance company investigating fraudulent workman's comp cases as well as identity theft. You would be amazed at how far people will go.

so anyone can feel free to chime in and tell me who he wants you to think he is. It will be wasted breath. I'll just counter with a story about someone in RI I would like to be.

So I have called you out on your dare. Now call me out on the one I gave you.

Call me. 401-580-5827. I gave you this number in a PM, but you didn't have the balls. Will you now?

I fucking dare you to have the stones to let me hear your voice. I'll even invite anyone on this thread to do it, to see that I'll answer and that it's me.

Better do it quick before my number gets edited by the mod you will run screaming to.

I worked at an insurance company which dealt with workers' comp, and OMFG, the stories the investigators would report...Yes I read them, I was a file clerk at the time.. Alfred Hitchcock Presents and Ellery Queen magz have NOTHING on the shit people tried to pull!!

 

[sr71plt]

Sure I clued other people in--to the truth, not not me just telling them, references they could find for themselves (using the same reference point I gave you)--so I wouldn't be the only one here to know the extent of your swiftboating. You have a point? What good would calling you do? You are going to play your agenda without even the reference point you were already given. It's OK with me--others here know what a yutz you are being.

 

[PennLady]

LC, what is the point of all this? You wouldn't believe anybody about SR's identity if God -- or Satan, I suppose in your case -- came and told you himself. If you got the phone call, you'd no doubt say that he got someone else to do it for him. Fine, you don't like him, we get it.

And don't drag me or MistressLynn into anything. I'll decide who I want to defend, or not, and I'm sure she will too. All I did was point out that one unusual word is indeed a legit word, albeit one not often used.

 

[TxRad]

Now back to our regular schedules program, already in progress.

What a good day so far. Got the Valentines day story done and finished an old story that I have been waiting for a brainstorm on how to finish. Also got a second old story down to the last act. I should be able to finish it tonight or in the morning.

 

[lovecraft68]

LC, what is the point of all this? You wouldn't believe anybody about SR's identity if God -- or Satan, I suppose in your case -- came and told you himself. If you got the phone call, you'd no doubt say that he got someone else to do it for him. Fine, you don't like him, we get it.

And don't drag me or MistressLynn into anything. I'll decide who I want to defend, or not, and I'm sure she will too. All I did was point out that one unusual word is indeed a legit word, albeit one not often used.

No, I would believe a phone call, even if it meant there was an effort for him to get someone to do it for him.

And I did not drag you into anything. he is the one running for people to defend him. he is the one asking people to intercede

I need no defense from anything I say, here or anywhere else.

 

[PennLady]

Now back to our regular schedules program, already in progress.

What a good day so far. Got the Valentines day story done and finished an old story that I have been waiting for a brainstorm on how to finish. Also got a second old story down to the last act. I should be able to finish it tonight or in the morning.

Good for you. I still need to get back into the writing rhythm, which is difficult at the moment. PennBoy's birthday is Sunday, there are still Xmas decorations up, and my parents may visit this weekend (at my invitation). Not much time for writing.

No, I would believe a phone call, even if it meant there was an effort for him to get someone to do it for him.

And I did not drag you into anything. he is the one running for people to defend him. he is the one asking people to intercede

I need no defense from anything I say, here or anywhere else.

He hasn't asked anyone to defend him. He's only pointed out that he's provided information and others have used it. Not actually sure what that first sentence meant, but that's probably just me.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

Dark is looking over the replacement chapter I wrote this morning for a chain we did a long time ago, and I'm currently working on the second one that is missing. I feel good about doing this and very glad to get another loop closed that was left either by my actions or the actions of another. I do enjoy writing so very much.

 

[sr71plt]

there are still Xmas decorations up.

No pressure on that. Today is Epiphany, so Christmas doesn't end until today. We'll take ours down this weekend, but only because it's going to be warmer than normal outside. Got into the 60s here today.

And now back to the the Stephen Kessel trim.

 

[lance gt]

Well, I can see SR and LC have met their writing goals for the day, lmao