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[Robin_Starveling]

First time is best.

This is a general guideline that informs a lot of my erotic writing. Obviously not a universal principle, or a rule to feel bound to stick to, and of course there are many exceptions.

But the general idea is that the exploration of a kink is kinkiest when the character comes to it for the first time, whether it be having incestuous sex, being naked in public, having anal sex, whatever. The act of crossing the line into the forbidden is part of what gives an erotic story a special sexy zest.

This is one of the reasons I prefer to write new standalone stories to writing stories about the same characters over and over again.

Where's the controversy?

 

[SimonDoom]

Where's the controversy?

There seems to be an unlimited appetite among many readers to want to read about the same mom-son couple having sex over and over and over again. So it's controversial for some. And there are authors who want to explore the erotic lives of a set of characters over many stories. I'm just not that interested in doing that with erotica.

 

[Robin_Starveling]

There seems to be an unlimited appetite among many readers to want to read about the same mom-son couple having sex over and over and over again. So it's controversial for some. And there are authors who want to explore the erotic lives of a set of characters over many stories. I'm just not that interested in doing that with erotica.

“First time is best” is axiomatic; no one will challenge that. Not wanting to regurgitate the same material is a personal preference many share, but it’s not controversial.

 

[SimonDoom]

“First time is best” is axiomatic; no one will challenge that. Not wanting to regurgitate the same material is a personal preference many share, but it’s not controversial.

I wouldn't be too sure of that. Based on experience, I'd say all generalizations are controversial in this forum. Even that one.

 

[SimonDoom]

Is it considered controversial to talk about my fiancée being with other men?

Maybe if you're talking about it with her dad.

 

[NaughteeDragon]

If you're not going to put effort into details of sex, why write a story all about two people fucking?

I know this is probably just me, but when a story is really good and then the sex is like half a paragraph of no detail it's like literary blue balls.

I’m curious about your opinion of what counts for sex. I recently had this come up in a story I wrote.
Story is 15k words long. 12k of that is the breaking down of the traditional mother/son dynamic so that they can get to the sex. There are about 2000 words of foreplay and teasing. Actual intercourse is 2 paragraphs (about 200 words).
Would this have irritated you or would the 200 words been a payoff for the previous 2000?

 

[Britva415]

Is it considered controversial to talk about my fiancée being with other men?

Yes, unless you can phrase your response in the form of an opinion

Hey, I don't make the rules

 

[MillieDynamite]

Not to me, but I'd rather hear about the other women she's with.

Is it considered controversial to talk about my fiancée being with other men?

 

[Britva415]

Hot take:

If one is looking for a typographic solution to fix a storytelling problem, one still has a storytelling problem.

It's the words, not the formatting.

 

[PennyThompson]

Hot take:

If one is looking for a typographic solution to fix a storytelling problem, one still has a storytelling problem.

It's the words, not the formatting.

 

[Britva415]

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CHYOO stories are a different beast, so, my hot take doesn't apply to them

 

[PennyThompson]

CHYOO stories are a different beast, so, my hot take doesn't apply to them

I just want to write the Erotica version of Griffin and Sabine, is that so much to ask?

 

[Britva415]

I just want to write the Erotica version of Griffin and Sabine, is that so much to ask?

As a website maker in Multimedia Gulch in the late 90's, right before the first Dotcom crash, I worked with a designer who was an old hippie. He would quip that back when he went to art school, multimedia meant you sewed a button on the canvas.

 

[crookedletter]

I would just like to take this moment to congratulate everyone in this thread for reaching almost 20 pages of controversial opinions without, so far as I've seen, tearing each other apart. Good work everyone.

 

[Britva415]

I just want to write the Erotica version of Griffin and Sabine, is that so much to ask?

Good luck writing the LITerotica version of it!

This is 100% why I have that hot-take. The internet is not paper

 

[Statius]

I never heard of that before, but kinda sounds like, format wise, that the 'Story Of S' borrowed from it? A little? Concept wise? IDK. Could be talking out my ass, too.

 

[Britva415]

Another hot take:

Going 2295 words without identifying the gender of your narrator or MC is...

Well, normally I don't even get far enough to facepalm over it. I'm just out. Partly because a flaw like that is almost never the only one. But even if it's not, it's a big enough flaw all by itself that it can take me out.

It's like... I probably would read the story no matter what their gender is, but, not knowing what it is because the author can't have the presence of mind to state it makes for a shitty reading experience.

I really don't like the mental effort it takes to hold multiple versions of the story in mind for however long it takes to discover the line which finally reveals it. And I like even less the whiplash of believing I know the gender only to be wrenched into a different story when I find I guessed wrong. Again, I'm talking about when it's because the author just forgot to show it or tell it.

I'm not talking about stories where the ambiguity is a deliberate effect. (There's a whole discussion about this somewhere.) I'm talking about just plain forgetting that readers need facts to be narrated. Shown or told, I don't care—just don't assume mindreading.

 

[Britva415]

I bet it's similar to how the owner of the cat in Schrodinger's box feels.

 

[Statius]

I bet it's similar to how the owner of the cat in Schrodinger's box feels.

 

[SkyBubble]

The word "decidedly" is absolutely asinine.

I feel the same way about "that said."

 

[SkyBubble]

My metricated soul is quivering in outrage. There's not even an SI unit for 'boat'.

Cubit!

 

[SkyBubble]

if you write without ever thinking about it you're basically assuming that you have an innate talent that doesn't need any practice or polish.

I write first drafts without a lot of thought to get the story out. Then I think about it heavily when I go through it again.

 

[Britva415]

Going 2295 words without identifying the gender of your narrator or MC

Why, yes, that IS an oddly specific number!

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Another hot take:

Going 2295 words without identifying the gender of your narrator or MC is...

Well, normally I don't even get far enough to facepalm over it. I'm just out. Partly because a flaw like that is almost never the only one. But even if it's not, it's a big enough flaw all by itself that it can take me out.

It's like... I probably would read the story no matter what their gender is, but, not knowing what it is because the author can't have the presence of mind to state it makes for a shitty reading experience.

I really don't like the mental effort it takes to hold multiple versions of the story in mind for however long it takes to discover the line which finally reveals it. And I like even less the whiplash of believing I know the gender only to be wrenched into a different story when I find I guessed wrong. Again, I'm talking about when it's because the author just forgot to show it or tell it.

I'm not talking about stories where the ambiguity is a deliberate effect. (There's a whole discussion about this somewhere.) I'm talking about just plain forgetting that readers need facts to be narrated. Shown or told, I don't care—just don't assume mindreading.

So as long as it is < 2295 words it's fine. Got you!

 

[Britva415]

So as long as it is < 2295 words it's fine. Got you!

Heh. Got me.

What moved me to post was that I found that exceptionally excessive.

I didn't even count the paragraphs but ordinarily I would nope out after like five to ten, depending on paragraph length. This was at least three times that.

To the author's credit, the premise was good enough and the writing was good enough that I stuck with it far enough to finally get clued. And read the whole story.

This is rare, because (I might be repeating myself, not sure) this oversight is almost never the only, or even the worst, problem in a story which has it.