Women - what if your SO came on your face while you were sleep?

[Phoenix Stone]

Good post, IG. How ironic that Sexy Chele would scold you for infering that what a person says is what they mean...and then speak for everyone that they wouldn't have the propensity to commit violence, while the most outspoken proponent is looking up words in the dictionary to justify domestic violence on her partner.

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Didn't even read my posts, did you? Which means you didn't read Tooches posts about how he would jack off on all Our faces. Guess he meant that literally, too?

 

[sheath]

Thanks, Sheath.

Actually one of the things that really pissed me off at this guy is how rude he was to you, when you are one of the how-to board fixtures, and when you are always so fair, pleasant, and give people such a break here. You've made it a pleasant place, (unlike General.)

Wow...

*blushing*

You just made my whole day, Phoenix Stone. Thank you.

S.

 

[sultresweetie]

I was on my way to bed but this was too much fun of a read to pass by.

3. harm done by violating rights, etc.

That is quite a stretch. The harm you are referring to is...facial pore damage? You are assuming she is sleeping with some overnight pore cleansing compound that reacts violently with semen? Or perhaps some night time hair care product with similar properties?

Or maybe you are referring to emotional harm? Do you mean like when I was a kid and another kid said, "Your mom wears combat boots!" and my response was to push him down in the dirt and punch him in the solar plexus? I suppose if you apply a fifth grade mentality to this dilemna that would make sense. (Just for the record, my mom didn't wear combat boots) Wouldn't it be a great world if we could lash out physically at everything that remotely rubs us the wrong way emotionally?

Sexual Assault????

PPSSSHHHAAAWWWW.

And Bob, you big cheater. You are tossing all the "maybe you should talk about it first crowd" and the "I won't even let him do that to me when I'm awake crowd" in with the "castration, maiming and killing crowd" to try and swell your numbers and create a majority for your protectorate. The first group are a coin flip and if kardon or whatever his name is is referring to someone in the second group I have to assume he wouldn't have needed to ask.

Tooch I am sorry to hear that you will be ignored by everyone else on this board forever. You seem to have made some great points and showed some true perceptive ability. I am as surprised as the next guy that with all the people on here, all you have to do is piss off one or two people and nobody will read your posts ever again. Weird how much inflammatory language came your way after "everyone" ignored you and "noone" will ever take you seriously again but I guess some of "them" had not decoded their secret orders yet. Alas, maybe we can pal around when we both get banished to the general boards.

And Italian Goddess, very sexy, very sexy indeed.

Having thrown my two cents, drifting off to slumberland, dreaming of waking to a warm pussy gushing on my face as I rise.
I think I am going to put a towel next to the bed. Just in case.

LOL! Weeeelcome to the politics of the HOW TO bb, Andy and Tooch.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

And FINALLY, a lil bit of sanity to sum up the hysterics.

The just ask bit has been said MANY times. Problem is, Tooch doesn't Wanna ask. Says it spoils the fun. I will post the post for you if you like as you don't seem to have read the thread. Also, he has been calling people who don't like it and would react badly to being SURPRISED by it, all sorts of names -- Insane, Bitches, etc.

The hysterics have been on the other side, and have been stirred up by that side.

The other point worth noting, is that most of the women who have said that they would like it, and ALL the women who have said they'd like to be Surprised, seem to be bdsmers. (I base this on either seeing them posting bdsm questions on that forum or on an av in which a woman is being spanked or tied up. Not just saying it frivolously.) And while this doesn't discount their opinions, it puts them in a different perspective, much as it would to if it turned out that the men who posting that they'd like a dildo up the ass happened to also be gay. MIGHT mean they have a different perspective on it.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

LOL! Weeeelcome to the politics of the HOW TO bb, Andy and Tooch.

And is this supposed to mean that we are suppose to be welcoming the 'Politics' of the General Board?

 

[sultresweetie]

Didn't even read my posts, did you? Which means you didn't read Tooches posts about how he would jack off on all Our faces. Guess he meant that literally, too?

Yeah, I read them, got a few laughs in, too and NO I didn't take it literally because it really is too ridiculous-I think that was obvious. Is there a point in your posturing? You trying to say that talking about commiting violent acts was just an exaggeration or what-maybe you didn't read my entire post? Please expound.

 

[sultresweetie]

And is this supposed to mean that we are suppose to be welcoming the 'Politics' of the General Board?

Which is?

 

[Phoenix Stone]

If you go back and read through the thread, you'll see that this all blew up when after some of the women said someone better not do that to them while they were sleeping but, in some cases, used some strong figurative language, this Tooch guy came in out of the blue and started screaming at everyone, insisting they were being literal but apparently reserving the right to be figurative himself, I suppose. In any case, read back from about page 3 on and you'll see what I mean. He also started in namecalling, etc. When people tried to explain, he'd insult them, and do this whole chest thumping thing about how he wasn't going away, using large fonts to yell more. etc.

Anyway, looking back Italian Goddess has been fairly reasonable, if a bit double-standardish. Taking what he said as figurative, but not what the women said, for instance. Whole thing just got silly I suppose.

Hi, nice to meet you. Welcome.

(Gottta go to work now. see ya later.)

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Which is?

Aaack I'm late but... which seems to be rudeness and yelling among other things if this has been anything to go by...

by

 

[sultresweetie]

The just ask bit has been said MANY times. Problem is, Tooch doesn't Wanna ask. Says it spoils the fun. I will post the post for you if you like as you don't seem to have read the thread. Also, he has been calling people who don't like it and would react badly to being SURPRISED by it, all sorts of names -- Insane, Bitches, etc.

The hysterics have been on the other side, and have been stirred up by that side.




The other point worth noting, is that most of the women who have said that they would like it, and ALL the women who have said they'd like to be Surprised, seem to be bdsmers. (I base this on either seeing them posting bdsm questions on that forum or on an av in which a woman is being spanked or tied up. Not just saying it frivolously.) And while this doesn't discount their opinions, it puts them in a different perspective, much as it would to if it turned out that the men who posting that they'd like a dildo up the ass happened to also be gay. MIGHT mean they have a different perspective on it.

I don't see anything hysterical or irrational about this post-quite the opposite:

BOBonacock, can you get any more boring? Your posts move from one lame cliche to the next, continually broadcasting your weak intellect. You began by speaking for all the women on this thread, like some ass-kissing wannabe white knight, or some self-appointed hall monitor. Then you attempted to force your point by claiming a majority. I have no objection to being in any minority, but neither you nor I even count in this matter. This is about WOMEN and their opinions on Kardon's initial proposal. Clearly, you're a herd thinker, and you fancy yourself part of a herd here. Okay you dumb animal, now try to wrap your tiny bovine brain around this concept: I don't have a problem with any woman's objection to "surprise facials" -- I only object to their threats of violence.

And what is your point about BDSMers being the only woman who would agree with being surprised by jizz in their face? If you really have to say you aren't discrediting them, I think you are. Obviously mentioning it would be an attempt to pigeon-hole them, and compromise the weight of their arguement. It seems most people said it would be wise to get consent, it's no big deal, and that violence was unjustified. That seems rational to me. I feel the same way, and I am not into BDSM.

 

[SexyChele]

I don't see anything hysterical or irrational about this post-quite the opposite:

You obviously did not bother to read all of his posts. S'ok. You want to justify his reactions, go for it.

Anyway, I'm over and out. This thread has become a total bore.

 

[sunfox]

OKAY, BOBBY BOY! I'll take my seventeen enlightened, savvy, and sexy women to your sixty-four dried up, uptight, miserable bitches - any day! And we'll STILL kick your ass because you're lame and you can't even count!

You're right, sultresweetie. Nothing hysterical or insulting about this post.

And for the record, I'm one of the ubiquitous BDSMers, and I have zero interest in being squirted in the face while sleeping. I also don't see any insult in Phoenix's observation... after all, most BDSMers have a considerable tolerance for things they didn't ask for specifically, particularly if they're subs/slaves. That doesn't mean all of us would be all 'woohoo!' if our partner jizzed on our heads, but Phoenix never said that. I'm not insulted by her, even though I'm one of the exceptions to her observation.

Boy. Could this thead be more off the topic?

 

[Tooch McGroin]

Hi there McGroin... I'm wondering if Sheath is insane how would you feel if you were sleeping and some guy ejaculated all over your body while you were sleeping?
Your asleep so you can't give your consent or say no does that mean it's safe to assume your consent is automatically given? If thats the case then it must be ok for someone to have anal sex with you while your asleep too right? Because that wouldn't be violence either.. And it wouldn't be rape because your asleep so your consent is automatically given.

I don't sleep with guys. This entire thread is about your significant other jizzing on you while you sleep.

But if I was gay, and if my boyfriend jizzed on me - without my consent - while I slept, I'd feel: 1. shocked and surprised 2. dismayed that he left me out of any active participation, and possibly 3. flattered and turned on about that fact that he finds me so sexy that he needs to cum on me, even when i sleep.

No matter what, I wouldn't see this "surprise sleeping facial" as an act of violence from my lover. If you think it's a violent act, you're insane or maybe just plain stupid.

 

[Tooch McGroin]

You're right, sultresweetie. Nothing hysterical or insulting about this post.

That WAS insulting, but not hysterical. Hysterically funny, perhaps.

In any case, it was in reponse to Bobacock's insults and his annoying LARGE FONT posting. Looks like you missed that.

 

[sunfox]

That WAS insulting, but not hysterical. Hysterically funny, perhaps.

In any case, it was in reponse to Bobacock's insults and his annoying LARGE FONT posting. Looks like you missed that.

I'd bet I didn't miss it. But you're welcome to believe anything you like. Didn't occur to you how childish it was to insult everyone who didn't agree with you? Looks like you missed that.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Yes that's what makes it so much fun.

Yeah, this is true. Of course, you need to be with someone who is heavily into humiliation play.

 

[sheath]

You obviously did not bother to read all of his posts. S'ok. You want to justify his reactions, go for it.

Anyway, I'm over and out. This thread has become a total bore.

I'm done with it as well. It had the potential to be a good debate, but...well. LOL

There IS a good point to this thread, though. It separates those who actually think from those who do not. And thus, my ignore function has seen quite a bit of use. It was getting rusty.

S.

 

[Tooch McGroin]

Yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Phoenix Stone!

If you go back and read through the thread, you'll see that this all blew up when after some of the women said someone better not do that to them while they were sleeping but, in some cases, used some strong figurative language, this Tooch guy came in out of the blue and started screaming at everyone, insisting they were being literal but apparently reserving the right to be figurative himself

Phoenix Stone,

You are a real piece of work. Not only are you confused and confusing, but your husband posts under your name, adding to the confusion. So, I don’t know if I’m addressing a cunt or a prick, but I guess it makes no difference in your case.

Yes, I am rude -- it’s true. Sometimes I try to be amusing and entertaining, and you know the old saying: if ya want an omelette, ya gotta break a few eggs. Left to you and your chums, this thread would be boring cluck-fest of crabby old hens.

I suppose you could say my responses have been inconsistent, if you consider any retaliating smart-ass remarks an inconsistency. But in the case of Italian Goddess, I see no inconsistencies. She likes the idea of surprise facials, and she dislikes violence. And there are several others on this thread who agree with her.

Threatening to cut off a man’s cock for the offense of jizzing on your face is extreme, stupid, bitchy and possibly psychotic. I’ve been overhearing such angry empty threats all my life. They’re usually spat out by repulsive women who’d be lucky to ever touch a real cock. Fortunately, I’ve never been involved with any such women. No woman has ever threatened to cut off my cock, castrate me, or kill me. I’ve never given them any reason to.

This thread is about giving cum facials to your sleeping significant other. That's it. Of course, there are many possible contexts and consequences that can be imagined. In the case of a woman who refuses cum facials from her husband, because she considers it offensive and humiliating, this could be seen as a violation of trust. In the case of a Dom/Sub relationship, this would be just another minor game. And in the case of a traumatized victim of sexual abuse, this could result in a nightmarish flashback to past traumatic events.

If your reaction to a surprise facial from your husband is an act extreme violence, such as cutting off his penis or killing him, then you might need a long stay in a mental hospital.

If your reaction to this idea is an angry, but only figurative, threat to cut off a man’s cock or kill him, then you’re possibly only a borderline psychotic. Stay on your meds and stay away from knives.

And if your remarks about cutting off a cock are meant to be funny, you failed to make the joke work. You’re not funny. Leave the joke-making to the professionals.

When I posted some opinions on this issue early in this thread, some mad cow said “you will never win.“ I found that amusing and worthy of a smartass response like “I WILL win, and I will cum on all your faces ” Did you take that literally? Really? Because if you did -- GOOD! I AM COMING TO YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW. I WILL JIZZ ON YOUR FACE WHILE YOU SLEEP!! YOU WILL KNOW IT IS ME BECAUSE I WILL BE WEARING DOLLFACE’S FACE!!! AND YOUR HUBBY WILL BE HELPLESS TO STOP ME BECAUSE HE WILL BE DEAD DEAD DEAD!!! MUHAHAHAH!!!

See above? That’s called kidding. Yes, it’s inconsistent with my earlier statements. That’s how humor works, sometimes.

For the record, I’m not into giving surprise cum facials. It doesn’t really do anything for me. I’m just open minded and understanding of loving people who include such things into their sexplay.

Now as to legalities….
If putting just a fingertip on your wife without her consent is Assault, I imagine that you might have ample cause to drag your husband to court. Unless you’re saying he never touches you? Wouldn’t surprise me.

Anyway, I am not a coward. I’ve only ever edited my posts for spelling, grammar or punctuation.

Love, kisses and cumloads,

Tooch

PS. I call you bitch and I DO say it like it's a bad thing!

 

[Tooch McGroin]

andystx kicks ass

I was on my way to bed but this was too much fun of a read to pass by.

3. harm done by violating rights, etc.

That is quite a stretch. The harm you are referring to is...facial pore damage? You are assuming she is sleeping with some overnight pore cleansing compound that reacts violently with semen? Or perhaps some night time hair care product with similar properties?

Or maybe you are referring to emotional harm? Do you mean like when I was a kid and another kid said, "Your mom wears combat boots!" and my response was to push him down in the dirt and punch him in the solar plexus? I suppose if you apply a fifth grade mentality to this dilemna that would make sense. (Just for the record, my mom didn't wear combat boots) Wouldn't it be a great world if we could lash out physically at everything that remotely rubs us the wrong way emotionally?

Sexual Assault????

PPSSSHHHAAAWWWW.

And Bob, you big cheater. You are tossing all the "maybe you should talk about it first crowd" and the "I won't even let him do that to me when I'm awake crowd" in with the "castration, maiming and killing crowd" to try and swell your numbers and create a majority for your protectorate. The first group are a coin flip and if kardon or whatever his name is is referring to someone in the second group I have to assume he wouldn't have needed to ask.

Tooch I am sorry to hear that you will be ignored by everyone else on this board forever. You seem to have made some great points and showed some true perceptive ability. I am as surprised as the next guy that with all the people on here, all you have to do is piss off one or two people and nobody will read your posts ever again. Weird how much inflammatory language came your way after "everyone" ignored you and "noone" will ever take you seriously again but I guess some of "them" had not decoded their secret orders yet. Alas, maybe we can pal around when we both get banished to the general boards.

And Italian Goddess, very sexy, very sexy indeed.

Having thrown my two cents, drifting off to slumberland, dreaming of waking to a warm pussy gushing on my face as I rise.
I think I am going to put a towel next to the bed. Just in case.

Andy, you see it all and you know the score. After we get "ignored" by all the mad cows, we can toss back a few pangalactic gargle blasters or whatever.

 

[Tooch McGroin]

Good post, IG. How ironic that Sexy Chele would scold you for infering that what a person says is what they mean...and then speak for everyone that they wouldn't have the propensity to commit violence, while the most outspoken proponent is looking up words in the dictionary to justify domestic violence on her partner.

LOL.
I wonder what the attitude of the so-called majority would be if it were the wife cumming on the man's face, and he put the fists to her and threw her out in the night naked so the neighbors could laugh at her. Obviously it is disrespectful to cum on someone's face without their consent. Cumming on someone is a dominent act, and is degrading for the person being cum on. If someone is so vehemently opposed to this disrespectful act that they would take the low road to commit acts of violence on their partner, it would seem that they have serious self-esteem issues they are overcompensating for.

My ex would use a plethera of excuses as to why he had to put the fists to me. It was always about something I said or did that would threaten his manhood. I really see no justification for being punched, because something I may have said or did caused an emotionally unhealthy person distress. If I ran around physically attacking people that emotionally harmed me, I would be in prison by now.

Good post! I'm picturing that woman with a dictionary in her lap, while she whets a bowie knife. hahaha.

 

[Queen Bee]

Such a lot of fuss over a little spooge.

I doubt I'd even notice; I'd probably stagger out of bed hours later with the pillowcase glued to my hair.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

I don't see anything hysterical or irrational about this post-quite the opposite:

BOBonacock, can you get any more boring? Your posts move from one lame cliche to the next, continually broadcasting your weak intellect. You began by speaking for all the women on this thread, like some ass-kissing wannabe white knight, or some self-appointed hall monitor. Then you attempted to force your point by claiming a majority. I have no objection to being in any minority, but neither you nor I even count in this matter. This is about WOMEN and their opinions on Kardon's initial proposal. Clearly, you're a herd thinker, and you fancy yourself part of a herd here. Okay you dumb animal, now try to wrap your tiny bovine brain around this concept: I don't have a problem with any woman's objection to "surprise facials" -- I only object to their threats of violence.
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Gooolly Gee! He wrote one post that was only irrational and not hysterical and you found it! Congratulations. Will only go thru a few of the irrationalities this time as I'm beginning to get it that you really don't get it and can't be bothered to read enough of the thread to know why people are upset -- ipso,, I won't bother much longer with you.

Irrationality #1. He is using as many weak cliches as the one he is attacking. It's not for instance a cliche to say that women who don't like what you do, or who disagree with you are bitches or man-hating dykes? I beg to differ. He Bob DID and Does have a majority. Of Women. I know who most of the female, or claimed female posters are and there is a Clear majority who don't like it. And a MUCH bigger one who say ASK FIRST. There were 3 Women up to that point who said that they'd like it without any asking. He also claimed people such as Latinababe as being in the hot for it category when she said she didn't know how she felt about it, and said ASK FIRST. READ. He says this is about WOMENS OPINIONS, and yet it seems to be only his, and three other woman who supported him, whose opinions mattered. By repeating his opinion over and over in LARGE CAPS -- HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT WASN'T WOMEN'S OPINIONS THAT MATTER TO HIM BUT HIS OWN. He says he doesn't have a problem with women's objections to surprise facials right after saying that HAVING TO ASK WOULD SPOIL THE SURPRISE. And after saying that what he likes about doing them is that they piss women off. THIS IS RATIONAL? No matter your definition of rational, it is clearly illogical, and has lots of self-contraditctions.

And what is your point about BDSMers being the only woman who would agree with being surprised by jizz in their face? If you really have to say you aren't discrediting them, I think you are. Obviously mentioning it would be an attempt to pigeon-hole them, and compromise the weight of their arguement. It seems most people said it would be wise to get consent, it's no big deal, and that violence was unjustified. That seems rational to me. I feel the same way, and I am not into BDSM. [/B]

Didn't it occur to you to wonder HOW I KNOW THEY ARE FROM THE BDSM THREAD? Because I am. I am into several of the aspects of that. But -- guess what -- Doms ASK FIRST. If I was a gay man and saw a bunch of guys talking about how great anal entry is without mentioning that they are gay -- and getting mad at the ones who don't like it think they they weren't playing fair by not mentioning it in that case, too. I'm not picking on bdsmers.

 

[Nightbird]

You know I went back to the original post and after reading over this with a rested mind I've come to some conclusions.

First, in my mind this is a question of respect. If you respect your S.O. you would not do this to them.
Second an act like ejaculating on your S.O. while they sleep has nothing to do with love. It is a sex act and an act of control which I will get to in a minute. Your S.O. is an actual person a living being just like you. Your S.O. is not a Blow up Sex Doll to be used to ejaculate on or over or in as you see fit when you see fit. Personally if I'm so horny that I need to orgasm I would consider waking her up and making love so that we both can enjoy it. Not just me by being disrespectful and selfish by masturbating and then ejaculating on her face. There is a difference between love making and Sex.
Finally, Masturbating and ejaculating on someone while they sleep is all about control. You having control over them and belittling them. It's the same as if you'd urinated on them. A person who masturbates and ejaculates on the face of their S.O. is someone who has a need to dominate them and control them. And to be honest I think the original poster of this thread probably already knows their S.O. wouldn't like this. Word of advice talk to your S.O. and ask them if they would like it or not.. Don't waste your time talking to strangers. Your in the relationship with her not the people here on Lit and Communication is very important.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Re: Yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Phoenix Stone!

Phoenix Stone,

You are a real piece of work. Not only are you ... confusing,

You find me confusing because you're not very smart. Not my fault, buddy.

I suppose you could say my responses have been inconsistent, if you consider any retaliating smart-ass remarks an inconsistency.

No, YOU are the one who doesn't understand smart-ass remarks, at least when other people are making them.

I’ve been overhearing such angry empty threats all my life.... No woman has ever threatened to cut off my cock, castrate me, or kill me. I’ve never given them any reason to.

Guess they're afraid to say it to your face so they say it behind your back? Somehow YOU overhearing such threats all your life, doesn't surprise me in the least.

...And if your remarks about cutting off a cock are meant to be funny, you failed to make the joke work.

Unless all those 'your remarks...' and 'when you said this' stuff was meant to be speaking over my shoulder as the defender of those who said such things rather than as one who actually said any of them, YOU are the one who is nuts, and has me confused with someone else. Check my posts.

When I posted some opinions on this issue early in this thread, some mad cow said “you will never win.“ I found that amusing and worthy of a smartass response like “I WILL win, and I will cum on all your faces ” Did you take that literally? Really? Because if you did -- GOOD! I AM COMING TO YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW. I WILL JIZZ ON YOUR FACE WHILE YOU SLEEP!! YOU WILL KNOW IT IS ME BECAUSE I WILL BE WEARING DOLLFACE’S FACE!!! AND YOUR HUBBY WILL BE HELPLESS TO STOP ME BECAUSE HE WILL BE DEAD DEAD DEAD!!! MUHAHAHAH!!!

To quote you to yourself: You’re not funny. Leave the joke-making to the professionals.

For the record, I’m not into giving surprise cum facials. It doesn’t really do anything for me.

And for the record, AGAIN, I wouldn't CARE if my husband did this. If he'd done this as a surprise though, I would have thought he'd gone nuts, as it would be unlike him. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE.

I’m just open minded and understanding ....

OH, yeah. Never met Anyone more openminded and understanding than you. YOu forgot, gentle, polite, smart.... (that would be called sarcasm, dude, in case you were wondering.)

Anyway, I am not a coward.

Are too! Are too!
And that's about where this has gone.

and since you have said ugly things about me while knowing nothing about me: guys who talk like you are always found to be old fat ugly and so repulsive their dogs wouldn't lick them. good-bye poopie head.

From here on, this is what you'll see, since there's no 'smilie butt' available:

Ps.

 

[Tooch McGroin]

Re: Re: Yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Phoenix Stone!

You find me confusing because you're not very smart.

No, it's because you're infantile.

good-bye poopie head.

I rest my case.