Women - what if your SO came on your face while you were sleep?

CutieMouse said:
...if I'm dead asleep and not expecting a guy climbing into my bed cumming on my face and I *know* my husband isn't home my first thought is not going to be "Gee I guess I should submissivly take this face shot before I figure out who the fuck it is".

Okay, you're awakened from a deep sleep. It's dark, you're disoriented, half awake. You feel something warm on your face. What the hell? You feel the unmistakable sensation of hot jizz splattering onto your lips. In the darkness, you can barely see a cock above you, but you can sense a man there. He's kneeling beside you on the bed, gasping, grunting, his hand pumping his cock. WHAT THE FUCK! Is this your husband? Your husband wouldn't do this without your consent. Besides, your husband is not expected home -- he's out playing with his band -- so you think: A RAPIST! Immediately, your adrenaline starts flowing. You're suddenly wide awake! You know your husband's taste, his cologne, his presence, the sound of his voice. But you only smell cheap liquor now, and this guy doesn't sound like your husband at all. He's sort of keening like an animal. He seems more like that bastard Kardon!

Calling upon your self-defense training, you reflexively and mercilously lash out at his balls...!
 
Bobmi357 said:
So for the record. Minority is the smaller percentage, majority is the larger percentage. And 24 is larger than 7.

Got it now? :D

Bobmi, I laughed so hard at this. :)

Since you are one who can break things down and explain them so rationally, I have a request...

Can you define 'figures of speech' for this guy?

It seems he takes every comment far, far too literally. A good, thorough education on figures of speech used in the heat of the moment might help him a bit.

:rose:

S.
 
Tooch McGroin said:

No, Bobby. It's coming very slowly because you are SLOW. And you MISCOUNTED. Try again, genius.

You gotta be a republican. Only a republican would ignore the hard numbers.... LOL!

Gonna try another hard word for you Poochie... The women that talked about hitting him were speaking METAPHORICALLY. What they meant is as plain as the schnoz on your face. They'd wake up pissed, angry and feeling used. Whatever violence that results would come from the fight that ensued because someone with bigger gonads than his IQ decided to do something stupid.

And the numbers came from the count as of my posting. Go back and recount it yourself if you don't believe it. No matter how much you might hate it, you're still in the minority. Sorry Poochie try the general board. You'll fit in perfect over there. :p
 
sheath said:
Can you define 'figures of speech' for this guy?

It seems he takes every comment far, far too literally. A good, thorough education on figures of speech used in the heat of the moment might help him a bit.

Bobby, while you're at it, explain to Sheahtlthth that there have been several posts about violent reactions, meant figuatively AND literally. And these remarks came from women who do not tolerate violence againt women. Explain to Shaehtheth that women who are violent toward men cannot expect... oh nevermind, you can't even COUNT.
 
Bobmi357 said:
And the numbers came from the count as of my posting. Go back and recount it yourself if you don't believe it. No matter how much you might hate it, you're still in the minority. Sorry Poochie try the general board. You'll fit in perfect over there. :p

CALM DOWN, BOBBY BOY. I DON'T MIND BEING IN THE MINORITY. BUT PAY ATTENTION: YOU MUST HAVE FLUNKED MATH BECAUSE YOU STILL CAN'T COUNT.
 
Tooch McGroin said:
CALM DOWN, BOBBY BOY. I DON'T MIND BEING IN THE MINORITY. BUT PAY ATTENTION: YOU MUST HAVE FLUNKED MATH BECAUSE YOU STILL CAN'T COUNT.

LOL! Ahem Poochie... so my count is off by one or two? Big deal. Seems to me that since you're the one who brought up the whole counting business when I pointed out you were in the minority in the first place that YOU should go back and provide us with an accurate count. After all, over twenty women were saying no to your paltry seven...

And no, just to set the record straight I pulled straight A's in math in college even if that was more than 20 yrs ago.

ps. Can you make your font any bigger Poochie? It is getting hard to read. The GB is two doors down the hall, to your right. :D
 
angela146 said:
If you want to do something like this, first you have to build the deep level of trust and intimacy that's required.

Your relationship has to be close enough that she will wake up in the middle of it, be startled and then start laughing at the silliness of it.

I agree with this. I liked your entire post. When talking about Significant Others, I naturally assume that we're discussing relationships built on trust and intimacy.

But let's not rule out the surprise element of Kardon's initial proposal. Some people like that sort of thing. They don't need to be slowly conditioned because they get turned on by the sudden shock. And a lot of people don't know if they'll like a new experience until they experience it.

I say to Kardon: do it. Just go for it. See what happens. :devil:
 
Bobmi357 said:
After all, over twenty women were saying no to your paltry seven...

ps. Can you make your font any bigger Poochie? It is getting hard to read. The GB is two doors down the hall, to your right. :D

OKAY, BOBBY BOY! I'll take my seventeen enlightened, savvy, and sexy women to your sixty-four dried up, uptight, miserable bitches - any day! And we'll STILL kick your ass because you're lame and you can't even count!
 
I must admit, I took the violent words that were spewed seriously/literally. I assumed that these women were serious about their violent acts/feelings towards the subject matter.

On the other hand, I just want to comment on a double standard. If a woman were to pose a question about sucking a guy off while he slept and asked whether it were okay, I assume the reactions would differ.

If a man were to respond that he would be angry that his sleep were disrupted and he would cut off his SO's clit, the women here would be in an uproar (as would I). I think many would assume that he was being literal and hence, violent. I would also venture to say that he would be branded an abusive boyfriend and someone to stay away from in general.

This is the Internet and I think one should choose their words carefully, so as to communicate their thoughts/feelings properly.
 
Italian Goddess said:
On the other hand, I just want to comment on a double standard. If a woman were to pose a question about sucking a guy off while he slept and asked whether it were okay, I assume the reactions would differ.

When we start living in a world where men look over their shoulders while walking across dark parking lots for fear that a woman will attack them, then you're argument will have legs.
 
dollface007 said:
When we start living in a world where men look over their shoulders while walking across dark parking lots for fear that a woman will attack them, then you're argument will have legs.

I hope you don't expect to receive the same pay as a man or to be given equality in regard to men. Just because some men are violent, doesn't mean they all are.

And, sorry, that doesn't give you the right to make violent remarks on a BB about what you'd do to a man simply because there are violent men in the world who rape women. Once you use logic, your argument will have legs.
 
Tooch McGroin said:


I have no problem with anyone NOT liking a "sleeping cum facial." Once again for the slow ones: I have a problem with inappropriate and brutal violence against lovers.

Maybe at the end of a long day of picking up after a disgusting slob of a husband -- the sort of hubby who bathes infrequently, hogs the remote control, refuses to get a job or even throw out the garbage -- a surprise cum facial would probably drive a normally patient women over the edge. I can understand that! Okay, I guess I should just assume that all the violent responses are from women who are already in bad situations with nearly worthless "Significant Others".

No, you are assuming wrong- in so many ways.

A lover can become an attacker. Just because you are my lover, doesnt' mean that you have not asaulted me by cumming on my face while I was sleeping (how is this suprise sex anyway, what 'sex' did I get? Getting splashed with cum is not getting sex)

When you assult someone physically or sexually, weather or not you are there current, or previous lover, you should expect a violent (or possibly legal) reaction.

Sexual assult is not loving, it is violent and innapropriate. It is not unreasonable in the least for it to be met in kind.

When you understand that many women would consider this to be an act of assult against them[and in fact that it would not be unreasonable for them to think that], perhaps you will understand their reaction. As long as you classify cumming on an unsuspececting 'lover's' face while they are sleeping a loving act, you will continue to wrongly believe that the women here have responded unreasonably.

It has NOTHING to do with weather or not the man is a long time lover or stranger. I didn't say that, you did. A long time lover who punches me in the face (unless we have discussed this and it is our shared kink) is asaulting me. The same goes for sexually asaulting me in my sleep. NOT all sex shared by 'lovers' is automatically loving.
 
That is not a double standard in the least, because getting a blow job is an entirely different action than getting cum splashed on your face.

Ask a guy what if he woke up and some guy was jacking off over his head. What would his first reaction be?

Ask a guy who enjoys golden showers if he would like to be woken up by being pissed on?

Ask a guy would he like to be woken by having a dildo shoved up his ass?

IF a man woke me up by giving me pleasure (not releaving himself on me, that certainly doesnt' count) I *might* kick him in the head. I can't say I wouldn't, even though I would probably like it, but the shock of being woken up quite often leads to physically lashing out. Its just not safe for the guy- even if I would like it.

Italian Goddess said:
I must admit, I took the violent words that were spewed seriously/literally. I assumed that these women were serious about their violent acts/feelings towards the subject matter.

On the other hand, I just want to comment on a double standard. If a woman were to pose a question about sucking a guy off while he slept and asked whether it were okay, I assume the reactions would differ.

If a man were to respond that he would be angry that his sleep were disrupted and he would cut off his SO's clit, the women here would be in an uproar (as would I). I think many would assume that he was being literal and hence, violent. I would also venture to say that he would be branded an abusive boyfriend and someone to stay away from in general.

This is the Internet and I think one should choose their words carefully, so as to communicate their thoughts/feelings properly.
 
Tooch McGroin said:
[SIZE=-8]OKAY, BOBBY BOY! I'll take my seventeen enlightened, savvy, and sexy women to your sixty-four dried up, uptight, miserable bitches - any day! And we'll STILL kick your ass because you're lame and you can't even count![/SIZE]

Geez Poochie, I don't know... Its still kinda hard to read. I wonder if you're over-compensating for lack of size elsewhere by using a larger font? :D

And like I said earlier, you're the one that should be doing the counting since you refused to believe you're in the minority.

Well I think this thread has been fun while it lasted, but I hate having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. :D
 
Italian Goddess said:
I hope you don't expect to receive the same pay as a man or to be given equality in regard to men. Just because some men are violent, doesn't mean they all are.

And, sorry, that doesn't give you the right to make violent remarks on a BB about what you'd do to a man simply because there are violent men in the world who rape women. Once you use logic, your argument will have legs.

See what I wrote earlier about a man cumming on your face while you are sleeping having a very strong probablilty of being interpreted as sexual assault.

To a person who thinks this sounds fun, castration seems way out of line, but if you look at it in terms of *this* man has just sexually asualted you, you may think that any thing you do against him is justified. (or you may not- but please dont' take it as lashing out against a loving act, when the women here who have stated violence either literally or figuratively clearly see this as a violation and an assult- not a loving act)

The woman is not reacting violently because *some* men sexually assault women, but because *this* man has just sexually asaulted her. And that is not entirely unreasonable.
 
Tooch McGroin said:
OKAY, BOBBY BOY! I'll take my seventeen enlightened, savvy, and sexy women to your sixty-four dried up, uptight, miserable bitches - any day! And we'll STILL kick your ass because you're lame and you can't even count!

And here, I thought you were claiming that you *were* ok with some women not being ok with that particular act:rolleyes:

Yes, if we don't want to be woken up to a cum bath with no warning and no indication ever having been given that we'd like that sort of thing, we MUST be *dried up, uptight, miserable bitches* Oh well, we obviously don't want to be *taken* by you on any account. Hope you find yourself a nice doormat who will be willing to do anything you want for fear that you might call her the B-word otherwise. (Myself, I've been there, and gotten over it)
 
Okay, okay, enough squabbling already. Just go ahead and do it, and report back!

Meanwhile, I'll be taking bets in the back room...
 
sweetnpetite said:
That is not a double standard in the least, because getting a blow job is an entirely different action than getting cum splashed on your face.

Ask a guy what if he woke up and some guy was jacking off over his head. What would his first reaction be?

Ask a guy who enjoys golden showers if he would like to be woken up by being pissed on?

Ask a guy would he like to be woken by having a dildo shoved up his ass?

IF a man woke me up by giving me pleasure (not releaving himself on me, that certainly doesnt' count) I *might* kick him in the head. I can't say I wouldn't, even though I would probably like it, but the shock of being woken up quite often leads to physically lashing out. Its just not safe for the guy- even if I would like it.

Sweet, please re-read what I wrote. I simply stated that the VIOLENT comments weren't necessary, as most women would shun a man if he made the same comments.

For instance, if a woman woke up a man by rubbing her pussy on his face and he wanted to cut off her clit, the man would be deemed violent and abusive.
 
sweetnpetite said:
See what I wrote earlier about a man cumming on your face while you are sleeping having a very strong probablilty of being interpreted as sexual assault.

To a person who thinks this sounds fun, castration seems way out of line, but if you look at it in terms of *this* man has just sexually asualted you, you may think that any thing you do against him is justified. (or you may not- but please dont' take it as lashing out against a loving act, when the women here who have stated violence either literally or figuratively clearly see this as a violation and an assult- not a loving act)

The woman is not reacting violently because *some* men sexually assault women, but because *this* man has just sexually asaulted her. And that is not entirely unreasonable.

I would love to see if a judge would actually let you off from murder if you should kill your husband who jizzed on your face while you slept. The violence is far from necessary. You can justify it for your life; I will still remain horrified.
 
Kardon said:
Has women here been came on by their SO while they were sleep? Were you excited or pissed? Guys have you done this? How did your SO act?

Want to get some of your guys reactions. Im going to try this with my girlfriend and see what she does.

There are plenty of women who wouldn't be able to deal with this, but those aren't the types I hang out with.
 
Italian Goddess said:
I would love to see if a judge would actually let you off from murder if you should kill your husband who jizzed on your face while you slept. The violence is far from necessary. You can justify it for your life; I will still remain horrified.

Well your right, that amount of violence is unnecesary. I've heard many women claim that they would cut off a man's dick if he tried to rape them- and I'm pretty sure that wouldn't hold up in court either. I'm just saying that it's not entirely unreasonable for a woman to think that or even want to do that when she has been sexually asaulted. (as opposed to some supposed 'loving act')

Likewise I would not be suprised to hear men react violently to the suggestion that there girlfriends wake them up by pissing on them.
 
Italian Goddess said:
Sweet, please re-read what I wrote. I simply stated that the VIOLENT comments weren't necessary, as most women would shun a man if he made the same comments.

For instance, if a woman woke up a man by rubbing her pussy on his face and he wanted to cut off her clit, the man would be deemed violent and abusive.

Yes, you are absolutely right about that.

What SweetnPetit and I have been TRYING to argue is that an act of a man cumming on a woman's face WITHOUT her permission when she is in a vulnerable position (i.e., asleep) can be considered an act of sexual ASSAULT, and when a woman feels as if she is being SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, she will often fight for her life.

If you find a man that would feel threatened by a woman sitting on his face, i would be surprised. And the reason why they are hard to find is because sexual assaults on men by women are far far fewer than sexual assault on women by men, and most men in our society do not fear sexual assault by women.

Will a woman be convicted if she actually killed a man in this situation? Of course she will...women who endure years of abuse by their partners (and therefore may have justification) are convicted of murdering them all the time.
 
dollface007 said:
Yes, you are absolutely right about that.

What SweetnPetit and I have been TRYING to argue is that an act of a man cumming on a woman's face WITHOUT her permission when she is in a vulnerable position (i.e., asleep) can be considered an act of sexual ASSAULT, and when a woman feels as if she is being SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, she will often fight for her life.

If you find a man that would feel threatened by a woman sitting on his face, i would be surprised. And the reason why they are hard to find is because sexual assaults on men by women are far far fewer than sexual assault on women by men, and most men in our society do not fear sexual assault by women.

Will a woman be convicted if she actually killed a man in this situation? Of course she will...women who endure years of abuse by their partners (and therefore may have justification) are convicted of murdering them all the time.

While I understand what you are saying, I respectfully disagree. Please note the definition of the word "assault" in the dictionary. Shooting cum on another's face is not an assault, as it is in no way rape or violent.

I don't disagree that many more men rape or assault women than women do to men. However, this does not give any woman the right to resort to violence on a man who is clearly doing something fun, kinky, cute, or similar (such as jizzing on his SO's face while she sleeps).

I would love to hear from any judge on this matter. If a woman were to kill (and/or harm) her SO solely for jizzing on her face while she slept, I'd be shocked, horrified, and ultimately, would move to another country where women don't view themselves as such victims.

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