Why the Department of Education?

[AceDesSpades]

Love the meme/gif...

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Conservatives hate public schools because when little Jeremiah and Nevaeh learn about antibiotics and outer space, they home and ask questions like, "How come dinosaurs aren't in the Bible? How could a good God create something like cancer?"

Or they go to school and see other gay/trans kids being loved and accepted. If that other kid can be who they are without shame, then they can, too. Being gay isn't a sin.

The Christian worldview is built on a foundation of crumbling sand. Christian parents keep their children as ignorant as they can because they don't want their children to grow up and leave the faith.

Republicans want poor children to remain ignorant (especially white ones) because only an ignorant poor person could vote against his/ her best interest.

 

[AceDesSpades]

I hate them because too many people with too many paranoias about why people would choose to home school tend to get way too involved with them.

I wanted my child to not be anchored by the inability, or unwillingness, of other children to absorb the curriculum in a disruptive environment where just as much time was spent keeping the feral little animals sitting quietly at their desk, even if they're not paying a single bit of attention because they are bored to tears having already absorbed the material...

 

[AceDesSpades]

You can do in one hour what the Public School System can do in a day, or a week of days...

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

You can do in one hour what the Public School System can do in a day, or a week of days...

Like teach your child that the entire universe was created 6,000 years ago (as it currently is) in 6 days by an omnipotent Creator?

 

[AceDesSpades]

If your child is smart enough, they will learn what they will; some of us endured and survived Public Education.

If not, what's the diff?

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Why wouldn't you want the maximum amount of students to "survive and endure" the Public education system? Isn't more educated, competent adults living/ working in society what we want?

And why should school be something that has to be endured/survived? Don't we owe it to students (I thought conservatives were all about children?) to try and make the 13 years they spend in the public school something positive?

 

[AceDesSpades]

Okay. I'll play for a few minutes: what mass endeavor does the government do well and efficiently?

And the followup, what is the gravitational force of centralized education?

Standardization for the Industrial Age?

I think you have either

forgotten why or

never learned.

The factory model is as dead as the educational structure designed to feed it... Player Piano.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Might I offer rebuttal from the Left?

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...iciency-aka-doge.1622141/page-2#post-99910618

 

[AceDesSpades]

Conflicting Concepts Comfortably Compartmentalized

 

[Leglover1234]

What is your original username?

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

Okay. I'll play for a few minutes: what mass endeavor does the government do well and efficiently?

And the followup, what is the gravitational force of centralized education?

Standardization for the Industrial Age?

I think you have either

forgotten why or

never learned.

The factory model is as dead as the educational structure designed to feed it... Player Piano.

Then let's build a new one

 

[Rightguide]

your vitriol aside, do you personally support the concept of "school choice", i.e. public tax dollars sent to subsidize tuition at "approved" private schools?

Would you feel the same if you had children?

Personally, I think "school choice" is a horrible idea.

I support the states managing their schools not the Federal Government. Federal policies have wrecked our education system.

 

[Rightguide]

https://imgur.com/vu7qiMA

Says the Chief Executive Officer of Lit's National Bastard Association.

 

[Politruk]

Because you fuck head psychopaths are abusing our kids.

Nobody in the public schools is doing that!

 

[RobDownSouth]

I support the states managing their schools not the Federal Government. Federal policies have wrecked our education system.

How ignorant of you.
School funding is mostly a function of county taxes, with some support at the state level.
The federal government gets involved with Title 1 schools, schools in extreme poverty conditions. They also supply funding for special needs children (physically handicapped, autistic, and presumably any child that shares your DNA) that many counties would not be able to support (or be required to spend a disproportionate amount of money on).

I think your primary animus towards the Department of Education is goals and standards for education they set. You have a long history of not meeting goals or standards so I can see how this is a "hot button" issue for you.

Speaking of not meeting standards, did you ever graduate high school?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Okay. I'll play for a few minutes: what mass endeavor does the government do well and efficiently?

And the followup, what is the gravitational force of centralized education?

Standardization for the Industrial Age?

I think you have either

forgotten why or

never learned.

The factory model is as dead as the educational structure designed to feed it... Player Piano.

Every child should be afforded a basic education, your glibertarian hand-wringing notwithstandin.
A "Nation of unproductive AJs" would be counterproductive.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I support the states managing their schools not the Federal Government. Federal policies have wrecked our education system.

Really? Name some.

 

[UltraChad]

Conservatives hate public schools because when little Jeremiah and Nevaeh learn about antibiotics and outer space, they home and ask questions like, "How come dinosaurs aren't in the Bible? How could a good God create something like cancer?"

Or they go to school and see other gay/trans kids being loved and accepted. If that other kid can be who they are without shame, then they can, too. Being gay isn't a sin.

The Christian worldview is built on a foundation of crumbling sand. Christian parents keep their children as ignorant as they can because they don't want their children to grow up and leave the faith.

Republicans want poor children to remain ignorant (especially white ones) because only an ignorant poor person could vote against his/ her best interest.

Another leftist professing their total ignorance on pretty much every point. Must be a day ending in Y.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Another leftist professing their total ignorance on pretty much every point. Must be a day ending in Y.

I’d love to hear some specific reasons why the DOE should be shut down.

 

[UltraChad]

I’d love to hear some specific reasons why the DOE should be shut down.

It serves no valid purpose nor does it provide any value to the taxpayers.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

It serves no valid purpose nor does it provide any value to the taxpayers.

It provides college scholarships and makes sure those with disabilities are treated fairly. It makes sure federal laws in education are followed and provides some funding to schools.

Do you have any specific reasons it should be done away with?

 

[Politruk]

I support the states managing their schools not the Federal Government. Federal policies have wrecked our education system.

When it comes to schools, national management works better. The world's experience proves that.

 

[Politruk]

It serves no valid purpose nor does it provide any value to the taxpayers.

All these things are worth doing.

 

[Rightguide]

How ignorant of you.
School funding is mostly a function of county taxes, with some support at the state level.
The federal government gets involved with Title 1 schools, schools in extreme poverty conditions. They also supply funding for special needs children (physically handicapped, autistic, and presumably any child that shares your DNA) that many counties would not be able to support (or be required to spend a disproportionate amount of money on).

I think your primary animus towards the Department of Education is goals and standards for education they set. You have a long history of not meeting goals or standards so I can see how this is a "hot button" issue for you.

Speaking of not meeting standards, did you ever graduate high school?

The plan is to abolish the federal education bureaucracy, send the money to the states without ideological conditions, and let the states develop their educational systems according to the wishes of their citizens. We need to return to the systems that made the US the economic and political powerhouse it was prior to 1979.

Now, all that said. Tell us about the value of the Academic Deterioration of our education system since the inception of the Federal Department of Education. Explain the focus shifts away from fostering critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, and shifting to a broad-based understanding of various subjects promoting a singular anti-American ideological agenda.