Why Islam is disrespected

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In Tibet there are cultural differences and Buddhism rules.

In Tibet, you have harsh winters and have to work your ass off to prepare.

People working their ass off don't riot.

Meanwhile, in the warm climates, people got more spare time on their hands.

If you go through the whole hide the women and seperate them thing, what the hell else is left for the young bucks to do? Each other is against the law too!

 

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Sometimes you're reminded of what's real and what isn't. As irresponsible as Newsweeks article was, Newsweek didn't send out it's staff to gin up riots and violence.

Thank you Mr. Jacoby for reminding us of the real problem.

Ishmael

I think muslims fear each other as much as the rest of the world is begining to.

 

[Scouse B'stard]

The one thing that gets me is the way that people always point to 'medievel christians' as an excuse for any other religions actions now (especially those of Islam). Do they think that Islam just sprang up all peacefull then the foul christians came and attacked them? Do they deliberately forget that Saladin got as far as Spain before being turned back? Or do they just not care?

 

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Saladin might not be the best choice since it was the Christians Crusades that enabled him to garner followers...



Now, the conquest of India and forcing Buddhism to flee to China, on that charge: Guilty!

 

[linuxgeek]

The violent population which follows some form of Islam is a small percentage of the 1 Billion or so which follow the religion. These "few" get to color the religion in the blood red most of us see day in and day out. The sad part to this is where are the majority of Islamic followers who are peaceful? Why won't they speak up? Why don't they deal with the violent sects of their religion? Is it apathy or repression?

 

[NonSexWithHer]

The violent population which follows some form of Islam is a small percentage of the 1 Billion or so which follow the religion. These "few" get to color the religion in the blood red most of us see day in and day out. The sad part to this is where are the majority of Islamic followers who are peaceful? Why won't they speak up? Why don't they deal with the violent sects of their religion? Is it apathy or repression?

Are voices really louder than bombs?

What evidence do we have that people aren't speaking up?

If you listen to Bush's advisors they'll tell you all day long that in Iraq that the Iraqis are resisting the jihadists.

So which is it?

 

[linuxgeek]

Are voices really louder than bombs?

What evidence do we have that people aren't speaking up?

If you listen to Bush's advisors they'll tell you all day long that in Iraq that the Iraqis are resisting the jihadists.

So which is it?

I suspect a billion voices will be louder than the bombs of thousands.

I have difficulty believing anything coming out of the Darth Bush administration. They already have a grand track record of manipulating the facts to fit their desires.

 

[NonSexWithHer]

I suspect a billion voices will be louder than the bombs of thousands.

I have difficulty believing anything coming out of the Darth Bush administration. They already have a grand track record of manipulating the facts to fit their desires.

I don't think so. The Catholic Church has opposed the the war in Iraq since its inception. They have power, millions of devout members, a giant voice, and money. Yet I doubt you could convince the Muslims of the Middle East that the CC gives a fuck.

The 20th Century guaranteed that the concrete sword trumps abstract ideas like peace.

 

[linuxgeek]

I don't think so. The Catholic Church has opposed the the war in Iraq since its inception. They have power, millions of devout members, a giant voice, and money. Yet I doubt you could convince the Muslims of the Middle East that the CC gives a fuck.

The 20th Century guaranteed that the concrete sword trumps abstract ideas like peace.

It would be more convincing that Chirstians are against the war in Iraq if they stopped voting people into office who promote the war.

 

[Iced_Cherry]

I don't think so. The Catholic Church has opposed the the war in Iraq since its inception. They have power, millions of devout members, a giant voice, and money. Yet I doubt you could convince the Muslims of the Middle East that the CC gives a fuck.

The 20th Century guaranteed that the concrete sword trumps abstract ideas like peace.

I doubt that ideas of peace are going to spread very far when the only ones trying to promote "peace" are the invaders who keep killing civilians by the thousands and try to force a foreign controlled government onto your nation.

I also doubt that "peace" is a popular concept in places where the invaders bulldoze people's houses, poison their sheep, chop down their trees, kill every one who even protests about it, and take away children and imprison them to be kept as hostages against your family.

 

[Rex1960]

Some people are funny.

There is this leader of one of if not the most powerful nation on this planet telling he follows the advices of his God.

Then there is a bunch of people telling they'd believe their God created the world and the big bang theory and evolution is just BS.


Next you tell me this God is called Allah and we should blame the Islam.

 

[mitchell67]

re: the past is

The one thing that gets me is the way that people always point to 'medievel christians' as an excuse for any other religions actions now (especially those of Islam). Do they think that Islam just sprang up all peacefull then the foul christians came and attacked them? Do they deliberately forget that Saladin got as far as Spain before being turned back? Or do they just not care?

ok, let's at least get the facts clear. Spain was invaded by Tariq ibn Ziyad in 711 and subsequently the rest of the peninsula was conquered piecemeal over the next few decades.

Saladin was victorious over the christian crusaders at the battle of Hattin in 1187.

Do you see a problem? Don't go accusing other people of not caring when you don't even get your facts straight. Or are facts made up to fit your preferred reality?

 

[Scouse B'stard]

Apologies for the error, I didn't research it.

But what you have done is just confirmed my point - Spain was invaded before the crusades.

I'm not saying the crusades were correct or right or that the crusaders didn't commit atrocities, what I am saying is that all to often when Islam and Christianity/the west are discussed, the Crusades are highlighted but any ancient aggression by Muslims/the middle east is ignored.

 

[WARMACH1NE]

Yeah, Christian Conservatives never do anything violent.

Ask abortion clinic owners, they'd tell you if they were still alive.

 

[dgnerate_gamblr]

Some people are funny.

There is this leader of one of if not the most powerful nation on this planet telling he follows the advices of his God.

Then there is a bunch of people telling they'd believe their God created the world and the big bang theory and evolution is just BS.


Next you tell me this God is called Allah and we should blame the Islam.

Bush was wrong theologically to say that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

 

[dgnerate_gamblr]

I also doubt that "peace" is a popular concept in places where the invaders bulldoze people's houses, poison their sheep, chop down their trees, kill every one who even protests about it, and take away children and imprison them to be kept as hostages against your family.

....and strap bombs to the chests of women and kids and send 'em out to blow people up.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

....and strap bombs to the chests of women and kids and send 'em out to blow people up.

Both Israel and the Palestinians are engaging in terrorist behavior.

 

[cjh]

....and strap bombs to the chests of women and kids and send 'em out to blow people up.

or to park a car full of bombs and explode it, killing a lot of innocent people and sometimes children. ooops, that's a tactic favored by white christian Irish Republican Army terrorists.

my bad.

i'll try to think of some overbroad general slur to make against muslims in atonement.

 

[linuxgeek]

Bush was wrong theologically to say that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

hmmm... I'd have to question this. From the readings I've done, Judism & Islam share a number of prophets. I'm no theologian, but that makes it sound like the same god just with different names due to langauge differences.

Something I need to research, partly by reading the Koran, is there is supose to be a section that basically says the followers of Islam are to do no harm to 'brothers of the book'. Well, if Jews, Christains, & Muslims all follow the same god and the some writing of the Old Testiment are shared between the three religions, to me that sounds like all three religions are 'brothers of the book'.

 

[Ham Murabi]

Yeah, Christian Conservatives never do anything violent.

Ask abortion clinic owners, they'd tell you if they were still alive.

LT, I'm willing to bet more Muslims killed Muslims in the last 24 hours than Christian Conservatives have ever killed abortion clinic owners.

 

[Silvergirl]

LT, I'm willing to bet more Muslims killed Muslims in the last 24 hours than Christian Conservatives have ever killed abortion clinic owners.

I'm willing to bet that in the last 24 hours more muslims were killed by the predominantly Christian USA's military in Iraq than by any fellow Muslims. Afterall, the USA & UK have managed to kill at least 30,000 civilians so far, and been cited by the UN as responsible for the deaths of 100,000 Iraqi civilians.

 

[Rex1960]

Bush was wrong theologically to say that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

But they do !

The God is the same God. Christians and Muslims and Jews follow the same God. They all just follow different prophets.

For the muslims Jesus is one of those prohepts, they call him Isa, but Mohammad is the last and most important one.

The Jews don't believe what Christians do, Jesus was the Messiah.

But they still worship the same God. Theologically and practically.

 

[dgnerate_gamblr]

or to park a car full of bombs and explode it, killing a lot of innocent people and sometimes children. ooops, that's a tactic favored by white christian Irish Republican Army terrorists.

my bad.

i'll try to think of some overbroad general slur to make against muslims in atonement.

no prob.....I'll help ya out.

2 million dead in the Sudan over the past 10 years as a result of muslims ethnic cleansing.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I understand where you're coming from. Islam is not homogenous and just because the center of mass of the Islamic world behaves in that manner is NOT a reason to paint all of Islam with the same brush.

However it is that face of Islam that the world sees and is forced to consider when passing judgement. It is that face of Islam that we see because the rational side of Islam will not step forth in strength and with strong language to condem the face of Islam that we see.

It's damn difficult to paint your religion as a religion of peace when it's pretty obvious from the press that the Muslims of the 'Gap' are anything but peaceful.

Ishmael

The media is more than happy to put the Islamic blackface on these guys and totally ignore the good Muslims of the world.

You know, like the way they do rednecks...

 

[Le Jacquelope]

LT, I'm willing to bet more Muslims killed Muslims in the last 24 hours than Christian Conservatives have ever killed abortion clinic owners.

American doctors kill more Americans every month than Muslims kill Americans every year.