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Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

phrodeau said:
The US government is We the People, or more specifically, we the voters. So let’s propose that no gun owner can vote.
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Instead of worrying about picking who can or cannot vote on the basis of property ownership, let's focus on gun control. Do you agree we should advocate for the complete disarmament of the government? No government agency or employee shall be allowed to possess a government issued or purchased firearm, or weapon of any type.
 
phrodeau said:
Disarming everyone involved with government is your idea.
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And what does that have to do with voting? I have no interest in removing any citizen's rights to voting. I'm talking about disarming all government agencies, employees, etc.
 
TastySuckToy said:
Instead of worrying about picking who can or cannot vote on the basis of property ownership, let's focus on gun control. Do you agree we should advocate for the complete disarmament of the government? No government agency or employee shall be allowed to possess a government issued or purchased firearm, or weapon of any type.
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Continue.
 
phrodeau said:
Continue.
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If we're in agreement the government (ie: government agencies and employees) should be completely disarmed, with zero guns or weapons in its possession or in use by them or anyone on their behalf, then I'm willing to see government employees/agencies going around trying to confiscate citizen's guns/weapons.
 
TastySuckToy said:
If we're in agreement the government (ie: government agencies and employees) should be completely disarmed, with zero guns or weapons in its possession or in use by them or anyone on their behalf, then I'm willing to see government employees/agencies going around trying to confiscate citizen's guns/weapons.
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OK, that could happen. After all, gun owners are all law-abiding citizens.
 
TastySuckToy said:
Then we're in agreement. Completely disarm the government and citizens can decide for themselves whether to keep their own guns/weapons or not.
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You seem confused. You want the government to confiscate weapons, then say that citizens can keep them. Which is it?
 
phrodeau said:
You seem confused. You want the government to confiscate weapons, then say that citizens can keep them. Which is it?
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No, I'm saying the government can confiscate all its own weapons and disarm itself totally. As in every government agency, branch, employee is not allowed to have, own, use or have used on their behalf any weapons whatsoever.

Absolute gun and weapons control, but applied to the government, not private citizens.

That would be an enormous reduction in humans getting killed by weapons. Governments kill more people than anyone else, private citizens killing people with weapons wouldn't even register as a rounding error compared to deaths by armed governments.
 
Holy_Seduction said:
Including police, I presume?
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Don't we have an epidemic of police shootings of innocent civilians? If we see enough examples of police shooting people, then the gun control argument is to disarm them all. I'm arguing in favour of absolute gun control. Just gun control applied to all government agencies, branches, employees, etc.
 
NastyFuckBoy said:
No, I'm saying the government can confiscate all its own weapons and disarm itself totally. As in every government agency, branch, employee is not allowed to have, own, use or have used on their behalf any weapons whatsoever.

Absolute gun and weapons control, but applied to the government, not private citizens.

That would be an enormous reduction in humans getting killed by weapons. Governments kill more people than anyone else, private citizens killing people with weapons wouldn't even register as a rounding error compared to deaths by armed governments.
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Somalia beckons!
 
TastySuckToy said:
Don't we have an epidemic of police shootings of innocent civilians?
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On average, 1,000 per year, of which we know. Actual figures are undoubtedly higher, but many cities and localities do not report these events, and states are not obliged to keep that information.
 
Holy_Seduction said:
On average, 1,000 per year, of which we know. Actual figures are undoubtedly higher, but many cities and localities do not report these events, and states are not obliged to keep that information.
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Ergo, completely disarm government agencies like the police. Implement absolute gun control for all government entities to prevent gun deaths.
 
Law enforcement does well with non-lethal methods, tasers, canines, etc. Citizens can, too.
 
TrailerHitch said:
And you claim not to be a troll following me and responding to my posts even when they are not directed at you.
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Look, TrailerBitch. It's a public message board designed for interaction and you're fun to make fun of. No one is following you for any reason other than unintentional entertainment.
 
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