Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

[Captainnumnuts]

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Pls stay on topic. Sorry, my iggy button wasn't working too good at that particular moment.

 

[My I]

"Assault weapons have never been used for self defense?

 

[LincolnDuncan]

I was out in the street yesterday supporting the kids who are fighting to make their world safer. I haven't seen this kind of passion for a social issue since we ended the Vietnam war. Their passion is contagious.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

It was an amazing day. Every speech was great and inspiring.

I was out in the street yesterday supporting the kids who are fighting to make their world safer. I haven't seen this kind of passion for a social issue since we ended the Vietnam war. Their passion is contagious.

 

[zotique]

In 1996, Congress passed what became known as the Dickey Amendment, which banned the use of government funding to advocate for gun control.

Congress simultaneously yanked $2.6 million of the CDC’s funding — which just so happened to be the amount set aside for gun violence research.

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Ever seen 50 unsuspecting civilians killed in minutes by any of the items listed above?

Why does anyone need a cargo truck?

FYI, I am a lifelong Democrat but I won't be voting for any candidate who advocates suspension of the Second Amendment right to bear arms. The Democratic Party has swung to the lunatic left and they will be hard pressed to win any national elections going forward.

 

[KeithD]

Why does anyone need a cargo truck?

FYI, I am a lifelong Democrat but I won't be voting for any candidate who advocates suspension of the Second Amendment right to bear arms. The Democratic Party has swung to the lunatic left and they will be hard pressed to win any national elections going forward.

The real dopes are ones like you who have bought the lie that the Democratic Party has ever advocated the suspension of the 2nd Amendment. Easily fooled, aren't you?

The fact of the matter is that the 2nd Amendment has nothing at all to say about the types of arms one (actually the member of an organized militia) can bear. You've allowed yourself to be fooled on that point too.

You're just pretty much a dope.

 

[coachdb18]

The real dopes are ones like you who have bought the lie that the Democratic Party has ever advocated the suspension of the 2nd Amendment. Easily fooled, aren't you?

The fact of the matter is that the 2nd Amendment has nothing at all to say about the types of arms one (actually the member of an organized militia) can bear. You've allowed yourself to be fooled on that point too.

You're just pretty much a dope.

It's an INDIVIDUAL right.... <asshole>

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo said in a radio interview in late December (audio below), “Confiscation could be an option…mandatory sale to the state could be an option.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qq8pootc4


Senator Dianne Feinstein

Dianne Feinstein, the senior Senator from California, who is leading the gun control push in the Senate said in a 1995 interview, after getting her assault weapons ban passed, “If I could have banned them all – ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns’ – I would have!”

Former NY Mayor Ed Koch (deceased)

Former top Democratic mayor Ed Koch said he wants to ban all guns for everyone except law enforcement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSjbJHQkW54


Attorney General Eric Holder

The Obama administration’s Attorney General Eric Holder doesn’t suggest banning or confiscating guns. He just thinks we should brainwash the American people into wanting to get rid of guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw

 

[Hypoxia]

Why does anyone need a cargo truck?

It holds more explosives.

FYI, I am a lifelong Democrat but I won't be voting for any candidate who advocates suspension of the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Your arms-bearing 'right' is already a bit limited. You are not free to 'bear' bazookas, switchblades, backpack nukes, mustard gas, morningstars, nunchuks and crossbows in some places, RPGs, and various other toys. When the 2nd was written, 'arms' were cannons, muzzle-loaders, swords, archery, and lances... and the Founders wanted citizen militias, not a standing army. Get rid of the standing army and you can have all the arms you want, okay?

No need to suspend the 2nd, merely fully enforce it. A simple SCOTUS ruling that public possession of firearms requires membership in a well-regulated militia should do the trick. If you aren't regulated, keep your guns secured at home.

Note: Your right to bear arms does not trump my right to live.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

It's an INDIVIDUAL right.... <asshole>

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo said in a radio interview in late December (audio below), “Confiscation could be an option…mandatory sale to the state could be an option.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qq8pootc4


Senator Dianne Feinstein

Dianne Feinstein, the senior Senator from California, who is leading the gun control push in the Senate said in a 1995 interview, after getting her assault weapons ban passed, “If I could have banned them all – ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns’ – I would have!”

Former NY Mayor Ed Koch (deceased)

Former top Democratic mayor Ed Koch said he wants to ban all guns for everyone except law enforcement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSjbJHQkW54


Attorney General Eric Holder

The Obama administration’s Attorney General Eric Holder doesn’t suggest banning or confiscating guns. He just thinks we should brainwash the American people into wanting to get rid of guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw

You have an individual constitutional right to own a firearm but not any firearm. Because, if everyone were able to own any weapon they choose (tanks, mortars, rocket launchers) those who can afford to own the baddest, most expensive weapons, could take everyone's shit.

 

[KeithD]

. . .

We already knew you were one of the dopes.

 

[coachdb18]

We already knew you were one of the dopes.

We? Are you now thinking you're a King, referring to yourself in third person? WOW, just wow!!!

In actuality, another alt... for.... ?????

 

[KeithD]

We? Are you now thinking you're a King, referring to yourself in third person? WOW, just wow!!!

In actuality, another alt... for.... ?????

Yes, we. There actually are some people on this board with more than half a brain. Some of them have already responded to your idiotic post.

And, yes, I see that you haven't actually read the 2nd Amendment.

 

[coachdb18]

And, yes, I see that you haven't actually read the 2nd Amendment.

Indeed!!! <LOL> Aren't you just the little rimfire in a centerfire world....
https://i.imgur.com/uAhCfqj.jpg

 

[Hypoxia]

And, yes, I see that you haven't actually read the 2nd Amendment.

I'm nearly blind in my left eye but I can read the first two clauses that so many miss. If it was writ in Hebrew, it would read backwards, but I'd still see the last clause. The parts form the whole, duh. Judges and civilians claiming otherwise are wrong. It's really not difficult.

 

[My I]

You have an individual constitutional right to own a firearm but not any firearm. Because, if everyone were able to own any weapon they choose (tanks, mortars, rocket launchers) those who can afford to own the baddest, most expensive weapons, could take everyone's shit.

Hey, guess what, dumbfuck. We already covered that. There ARE people, private citizens, in The USA who DO own Tanks, and artillery, and full on machine guns and even fighter jets. And Guess what? NONE of them have ever gone bonkers and used them for anything illegal. NONE. NEVER.

If I had the money I could buy, right now, a fully functional MiG29. I have no doubt I could pass all the government background checks to do it. I have passed them before. I don't really want one, and I don't have $2.5million laying around with nothing to do with it.

And guess what? there are MILLIONS of American citizens that own AR15s. But since half a dozen of them, most of whom didn't get their gun legally or fell through the cracks and got them when they shouldn't have been allowed to, you want to ban them for the rest of us. And without due process at that. It's not just the 2nd amendment you're breaking, it's also the 4th, 5th, 6th, and some of the most basic principals of the constitution like freedom of choice and freedom from prosecution for someone else's crime.

But the constitution doesn't mean a goddam thing to you. All you want is what YOU want and fuck anyone who gets in your way.

LAWS, need to based on a reasonable, rational, plan backed up by FACTS. Not HYSTERIA. And YOU are acting on HYSTERIA while refusing to even acknowledge, facts.

Know what that makes you? A Childish, whiney-assed cry-baby. And you will NEVER be anything more than that.

 

[My I]

I'm nearly blind in my left eye but I can read the first two clauses that so many miss. If it was writ in Hebrew, it would read backwards, but I'd still see the last clause. The parts form the whole, duh. Judges and civilians claiming otherwise are wrong. It's really not difficult.

Then you clearly were reading the wrong document or, like most Liberals, you IGNORE the important part to focus on something else.

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE

Not the militia. Not the state. Not the federal government. The PEOPLE. That is the SAME People in the 1st and 4th amendments. Or are you saying those only pertain to the militia as well?

 

[coachdb18]

Hey, guess what, dumbfuck. We already covered that. There ARE people, private citizens, in The USA who DO own Tanks, and artillery, and full on machine guns and even fighter jets. And Guess what? NONE of them have ever gone bonkers and used them for anything illegal. NONE. NEVER.

If I had the money I could buy, right now, a fully functional MiG29. I have no doubt I could pass all the government background checks to do it. I have passed them before. I don't really want one, and I don't have $2.5million laying around with nothing to do with it.

And guess what? there are MILLIONS of American citizens that own AR15s. But since half a dozen of them, most of whom didn't get their gun legally or fell through the cracks and got them when they shouldn't have been allowed to, you want to ban them for the rest of us. And without due process at that. It's not just the 2nd amendment you're breaking, it's also the 4th, 5th, 6th, and some of the most basic principals of the constitution like freedom of choice and freedom from prosecution for someone else's crime.

But the constitution doesn't mean a goddam thing to you. All you want is what YOU want and fuck anyone who gets in your way.

LAWS, need to based on a reasonable, rational, plan backed up by FACTS. Not HYSTERIA. And YOU are acting on HYSTERIA while refusing to even acknowledge, facts.

Know what that makes you? A Childish, whiney-assed cry-baby. And you will NEVER be anything more than that.

BAM!!!!

 

[coachdb18]

Then you clearly were reading the wrong document or, like most Liberals, you IGNORE the important part to focus on something else.

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE

Not the militia. Not the state. Not the federal government. The PEOPLE. That is the SAME People in the 1st and 4th amendments. Or are you saying those only pertain to the militia as well?

The words 'Shall NOT be infringed', are so hard to understand for all the fragile snowflakes! Ask yourself, who would the Founding Fathers have been speaking to about infringing on a militia, if their intended interpretation had been that bearing arms was only in reference to membership in a state run militia?

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Hey, guess what, dumbfuck. We already covered that. There ARE people, private citizens, in The USA who DO own Tanks, and artillery, and full on machine guns and even fighter jets. And Guess what? NONE of them have ever gone bonkers and used them for anything illegal. NONE. NEVER.

If I had the money I could buy, right now, a fully functional MiG29. I have no doubt I could pass all the government background checks to do it. I have passed them before. I don't really want one, and I don't have $2.5million laying around with nothing to do with it.

And guess what? there are MILLIONS of American citizens that own AR15s. But since half a dozen of them, most of whom didn't get their gun legally or fell through the cracks and got them when they shouldn't have been allowed to, you want to ban them for the rest of us. And without due process at that. It's not just the 2nd amendment you're breaking, it's also the 4th, 5th, 6th, and some of the most basic principals of the constitution like freedom of choice and freedom from prosecution for someone else's crime.

But the constitution doesn't mean a goddam thing to you. All you want is what YOU want and fuck anyone who gets in your way.

LAWS, need to based on a reasonable, rational, plan backed up by FACTS. Not HYSTERIA. And YOU are acting on HYSTERIA while refusing to even acknowledge, facts.

Know what that makes you? A Childish, whiney-assed cry-baby. And you will NEVER be anything more than that.

The thing is, I am aware that some WMDs are technically legal to own but the point is, they are strictly regulated so that people like you can't own them without approval from the federal government. Consider that if some foreign adversary wanted to flood the US streets with cheap rocket launchers, the federal government would never let that happen.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-t...-devices-in-the-USA-If-not-what-law-bans-this

 

[phrodeau]

Hey, guess what, dumbfuck. We already covered that. There ARE people, private citizens, in The USA who DO own Tanks, and artillery, and full on machine guns and even fighter jets. And Guess what? NONE of them have ever gone bonkers and used them for anything illegal. NONE. NEVER.

If I had the money I could buy, right now, a fully functional MiG29. I have no doubt I could pass all the government background checks to do it. I have passed them before. I don't really want one, and I don't have $2.5million laying around with nothing to do with it.

And guess what? there are MILLIONS of American citizens that own AR15s. But since half a dozen of them, most of whom didn't get their gun legally or fell through the cracks and got them when they shouldn't have been allowed to, you want to ban them for the rest of us. And without due process at that. It's not just the 2nd amendment you're breaking, it's also the 4th, 5th, 6th, and some of the most basic principals of the constitution like freedom of choice and freedom from prosecution for someone else's crime.

But the constitution doesn't mean a goddam thing to you. All you want is what YOU want and fuck anyone who gets in your way.

LAWS, need to based on a reasonable, rational, plan backed up by FACTS. Not HYSTERIA. And YOU are acting on HYSTERIA while refusing to even acknowledge, facts.

Know what that makes you? A Childish, whiney-assed cry-baby. And you will NEVER be anything more than that.

If guns are falling through the cracks, can we at least patch up the cracks?

If laws need to be based on facts, can we spend billions of dollars on climate change abatement and sustainable energy sources instead of border walls?

 

[My I]

The thing is, I am aware that some WMDs are technically legal to own but the point is, they are strictly regulated so that people like you can't own them without approval from the federal government. Consider that if some foreign adversary wanted to flood the US streets with cheap rocket launchers, the federal government would never let that happen.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-t...-devices-in-the-USA-If-not-what-law-bans-this

And again you want to steer away from the point. A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN who has no criminal record and a clean bill of mental health CAN own those. Yes there is a LOT of paperwork that has to be submitted, You have to have a valid FFL for I believe 5 yrs to qualify for a tax stamp to purchase fully automatic weapons and even longer to purchase "WMD"s. You have to pass a psychological evaluation to purchase "WMD"s and when you purchase them the weaponry must be made inoperable. (Gun barrels plugged and missile ignition systems remove) And they are going to cost a LOT of money. But if you have all those things then you can legally own them. You cannot take them out in public, except for parades or exhibition purposes

But an AR15 is NOT a "WMD". It is NOT a fully automatic "machine gun" It is a semi automatic rifle. That makes it no more dangerous than the Remington model 750 woodsman, the Winchester 351, the M1 Garand, the Browning BAR or a hundred other semi auto rifles on the market. The difference is that the AR15 LOOKS like its military counterpart and the others I mentioned do not look like modern military rifles.

I could show you pictures of 100 rifles and ask you to tell me which ones are "assault rifles" and you would get most of them wrong. The reason is the liberal definition of "assault rifle" is, "it looks scary". Either way you cannot go out in public and start shooting them. Even if you set up a safe area to shoot, if it is public it is illegal. And you cannot even shoot them on your own private property unless certain conditions are met. Conditions that do not exist within a mile of a populated area.

The Lamborghini Reventon "LOOKS" scary. (And in truth it IS a little) But you can still buy one and drive it on public streets.

The thing is ALL guns in this country are regulated much more strictly than your car. But just as someone can obtain and operate a car illegally, a gun can be had illegally. The penalties will be FAR higher for an illegal gun than for an illegal car.

As for a foreign adversary flooding the streets with tanks and rocket launchers for sale, that's about as likely as Superman jumping out of a phone booth naked. And your ridiculous exaggerations are not going to influence anyone but those dumber than you. Good luck finding them.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

And again you want to steer away from the point. A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN who has no criminal record and a clean bill of mental health CAN own those. Yes there is a LOT of paperwork that has to be submitted, You have to have a valid FFL for I believe 5 yrs to qualify for a tax stamp to purchase fully automatic weapons and even longer to purchase "WMD"s. You have to pass a psychological evaluation to purchase "WMD"s and when you purchase them the weaponry must be made inoperable. (Gun barrels plugged and missile ignition systems remove) And they are going to cost a LOT of money. But if you have all those things then you can legally own them. You cannot take them out in public, except for parades or exhibition purposes

But an AR15 is NOT a "WMD". It is NOT a fully automatic "machine gun" It is a semi automatic rifle. That makes it no more dangerous than the Remington model 750 woodsman, the Winchester 351, the M1 Garand, the Browning BAR or a hundred other semi auto rifles on the market. The difference is that the AR15 LOOKS like its military counterpart and the others I mentioned do not look like modern military rifles.

I could show you pictures of 100 rifles and ask you to tell me which ones are "assault rifles" and you would get most of them wrong. The reason is the liberal definition of "assault rifle" is, "it looks scary". Either way you cannot go out in public and start shooting them. Even if you set up a safe area to shoot, if it is public it is illegal. And you cannot even shoot them on your own private property unless certain conditions are met. Conditions that do not exist within a mile of a populated area.

The Lamborghini Reventon "LOOKS" scary. (And in truth it IS a little) But you can still buy one and drive it on public streets.

The thing is ALL guns in this country are regulated much more strictly than your car. But just as someone can obtain and operate a car illegally, a gun can be had illegally. The penalties will be FAR higher for an illegal gun than for an illegal car.

As for a foreign adversary flooding the streets with tanks and rocket launchers for sale, that's about as likely as Superman jumping out of a phone booth naked. And your ridiculous exaggerations are not going to influence anyone but those dumber than you. Good luck finding them.

O.k I'm going to take one more shot at it and then I'm going to give up since I'm not sure if you're obtuse or just playing at it.

Explosives and WMD's are well regulated, right? You can't walk into a store anywhere in the US and buy dynamite. Since McVeigh blew up a federal building, fertilizer is well regulated, right? I'm aware that some hunting rifles are capable of doing the same damage as an "assault weapon." That is why I advocate for strict regulations on any firearm that capable of mass murder like dynamite or a fertilizer explosive.

We have too many crazy people in the US that we can do little about. What we can do to save innocent lives is to make some weapons inaccessible.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm nearly blind in my left eye but I can read the first two clauses that so many miss. If it was writ in Hebrew, it would read backwards, but I'd still see the last clause. The parts form the whole, duh. Judges and civilians claiming otherwise are wrong. It's really not difficult.

Says the fuckin' twat who regularly ignores everything in 2A but the words "well regulated", "militia" and "necessary" IN THE WRONG FUCKING ORDER on a regular basis.

Don't like what the Constitution says? Just make shit up like Hypoxia!

 

[My I]

O.k I'm going to take one more shot at it and then I'm going to give up since I'm not sure if you're obtuse or just playing at it.

Explosives and WMD's are well regulated, right? You can't walk into a store anywhere in the US and buy dynamite. Since McVeigh blew up a federal building, fertilizer is well regulated, right? I'm aware that some hunting rifles are capable of doing the same damage as an "assault weapon." That is why I advocate for strict regulations on any firearm that capable of mass murder like dynamite or a fertilizer explosive.

We have too many crazy people in the US that we can do little about. What we can do to save innocent lives is to make some weapons inaccessible.

Ok. I'm going to make one more "shot" (interesting choice of words) at enlightening the blind.

Guns ARE regulated just as much as dynamite and explosive fertilizers. You cannot just walk into a store and lay down some 20s and walk out with a gun. You cannot go to a gunshow and lay down some 20s and walk out with a gun. There is a three page form you have to fill out and show valid photo ID. That information is IMMEDIATELY run through NICS and a response is returned within 20 min either authorizing the purchase or denying it. If it is denied, there is no sale.

The Parkland shooter bought his gun "legally" because the Sheriff failed to add pertinent information to the NCIC database that the NICS uses for that background check. You want to blame someone??? Blame that Sheriff and the FBI agents that were WARNED and did NOTHING.

Yet some people get dynamite illegally and some get fertilizer illegally and some get guns illegally.

PUNISH THE FUCKING CRIMINALS!!!!​

How fucking hard is that for you to understand??? YOU are the one being obtuse. In America we DO NOT punish the innocent. That is one of the basic principles this country is founded on.

Just less than 2% of ALL murders last year were by rifles IN GENERAL. That includes bolt action, lever action, pump action, single shot and muzzle loaders as well as semi-autos. There were FIVE TIMES MORE murders in this country by KNIFE.

11 children in this country die EVERY SINGLE DAY in traffic accidents caused by cell phone use. EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY!!!! But you don't WANT to regulate THAT, do you?

Who is being obtuse??? You might want to look that word up because I don't think it means what YOU think it means.