Why do the Right Wing have such a herd mentality?

[p_p_man]

You know the sort of thing I mean. Anything the Government does is correct. Any opposition is unpatriotic.

When one Right Winger appears others are sure to follow as if in a well-drilled, pack, killing machine.

Why don't they question?

Why do they only sneer?

Why can't they see the broader picture?

Oh yeah this applies to the UK as well as the USA so Right Wingers, it's no good calling me an American hating fucktard on this one. Just answer me my question...

Are you capable of independent thought?

ppman

 

[WriterDom]

I don't know PP. Such thought brings applause from the left. I have many left wing positions. Do you ever go against the liberal mantra?

 

[The Gimp]

You make that statement as though extremist are limited to the right wing. From what I've seen of your posts I'm assuming you would label Ariel Sharon as a right wing extremist. Wouldn't that make Yasser Arafat a left winger? There are plenty of people on both sides of the isle who stick to the party line no matter what. Are you suggesting that liberals are the only ones capable of independent thought?

 

[koalabear]

Is it the right or left that licks their fingers while jacking off?

 

[p_p_man]

I don't know PP. Such thought brings applause from the left. I have many left wing positions. Do you ever go against the liberal mantra?

I tend to go against anything that I feel is not in keeping with how I think things should be.

I am not tied to one dogma but follow, in general, a Left Wing doctrine.

Sometimes I can even nod my head at Unclebill and his Libertarians!

At the moment there's very little I can applaud that the Right Wing are doing, either in the States or in the UK.

When Reagan was in I found him a highly skilled President and an able Administrator. Bush...well you know what I think about Bush.

But the Right Wingers on this Board and those that make themselves known in the UK (through letters to the editor and other methods) have always struck me as being a group that have their ideas and thoughts firmly cast in the stone of Party Politics.

Rarely have I seen free, independent thought from them. Just a blind game of "Follow My Leader".

ppman

 

[Problem Child]

...it's no good calling me an American hating fucktard on this one...
ppman

Can we call you a goatlicking jagoff?

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: Why do the Right Wing have such a herd mentality?

Can we call you a goatlicking jagoff?

See what I mean WriterDom?

When they have nothing to say, they feel they have to say it anyway...

It's a bit like that well known saying:

Empty vessels make the most sound.

ppman

 

[Sillyman]

Being from the South, I can sympathize with you. Every election we vote for Right wing leaders, even though they aren't really helping us. The south keeps sliding backward, and our reps just smile and rest on their laurels, knowing all they have to do to keep getting reelected is spout off about how they are so much MORE Christian and conservative than the other guy. It's madening. I wouldn't mind if people at least seem to come by that point of view from their own experiences, but to often they just vote that way because it's part of being southern by god.

Not to say that I don't feel knee jerk patriotism is only the province of the right. Anyone can be jingoist and anyone can say that their values are the only TRUE American/Canadian/British/Christian/Islamic values.

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: Re: Why do the Right Wing have such a herd mentality?

See what I mean WriterDom?

When they have nothing to say, they feel they have to say it anyway...

It's a bit like that well known saying:

Empty vessels make the most sound.

ppman

What about an inbred, ass-munching limey?

 

[p_p_man]

You make that statement as though extremist are limited to the right wing. From what I've seen of your posts I'm assuming you would label Ariel Sharon as a right wing extremist. Wouldn't that make Yasser Arafat a left winger? There are plenty of people on both sides of the isle who stick to the party line no matter what. Are you suggesting that liberals are the only ones capable of independent thought?

Thanks for this excellent example of what I'm saying.

Just because a man maybe one thing on the political spectrum it doesn't necessarily follow that his opponent is the opposite.

Think....

That's all I ask.

ppman

 

[p_p_man]

Not to say that I don't feel knee jerk patriotism is only the province of the right.

No, I feel it as well on occasions.

But the Left seems to have a more healthy scepticism towards our leaders, be they Right or Left, than the Right Wing does, who only see wrong in the Left.

For instance any criticism of the US Government at the moment is immediately labelled unpatriotic. An attitude which the Administration has been only too happy to exploit.

Whereas over here (a Socialist country for the moment) we feel perfectly at ease when we criticise Blair and what we consider his over-involvement with the 'war' in Afghanistan.

We certainly don't feel unpatriotic. In fact we regard it as patriotic to question the decisions of our leaders.

ppman

 

[Sillyman]

That's hard to say really. I know the Left is highly critical of Right wing leaders, and I know the Right is highly critical of Left wing leaders. I know Clinton tended to take flak on both sides, but Clinton was all in all a rather crappy Democrat. We could do way better (or way worse in some opinions) than him.

I haven't heard much criticism on for Dubya among people of his party. It may just mean I need to get out more.

 

[The Gimp]

I haven't heard much criticism on for Dubya among people of his party.

Rush Limbaugh has been labeling GW's tendency to take his opponets issues away by claiming them as his own (campaign finance reform, steel tarrifs, farm bill) as Clintonesque.

 

[Lost Cause]

I am an American first, politically, I'm a Libertarian. In the states, we have a term, "Yellow Dog Democrat" meaning that if a yellow dog ran as a Democrat, they would vote for him. The same is true for the "Yellow Dog Republicans". I go with what makes sense to me, and no one else. You're correct with the extremes of both parties, that's where the danger is. By the way the two parties act in this state of emergency, they could be combined into "Republicrats"!
*It's that civilization cycle that has gone on since year one. The liberators become the oppressors..etc....etc....

 

[Sillyman]

Rush Limbaugh has been labeling GW's tendency to take his opponets issues away by claiming them as his own (campaign finance reform, steel tarrifs, farm bill) as Clintonesque.

I don't listen to Rush, so there may be the problem. I know Republicans aren't all one big happy happy all the time certainly.

 

[p_p_man]

I suppose what helps in the UK system...

is that we have a three party system.

The make-up of the House of Commons (our lower house where all legislation is passed) is:

Labour - Tony Blair (Prime Minister) 410 seats

Conservative - Iain Duncan-Smith (Leader of the Opposition) 164 seats

Liberal Democrats - Charles Kennedy (Leader) 53 seats

This gives us more scope for protest votes and more freedom for outright criticism of the Government. Even during times of war. The 2nd World War was not free of strife on the home front. There were a number of strikes carried out during hostilities.

Quote from the Gimp:

"Rush Limbaugh has been labeling GW's tendency to take his opponets issues away by claiming them as his own"

That has precisely what has happened with our Liberal Democrat's policies over the years. They have been squeezed by the other two and have watched as their own polices have been adopted by them. At one stage their Parliamentary representation was down in the low single figures.

But back to the side issue. It would be very satisfying to see more opposition in America against the Administration. I know there is some, but it just seems to be very, very quiet.

May be this terrorist report situation will wake up the Democrats in doing what their job is...

oppose.

 

[Sillyman]

Democrats make a crappy opposition in my opinion. Too much of the democratic leadership is just weak. It's becoming more and more of a choice between conservatism and moderate conservatism. We need a third party.

 

[SINthysist]

I love the way you lump in McCain with Limbaugh...

 

[Marxist]

Why the herd?

By definition the Conservatives have a stolid position that one must cling to in order to belong in their ranks. No change, never, no way, they believe they're preserving the Republic from its plagues or whatever.

Liberals have to stake out wacky, separatist, un-Conventional ways of looking at issues. It goes with the territory.


Isn't this the same conversation we had about why Conservatives are rarely funny?

 

[bluespoke]

Re: Why the herd?

By definition the Conservatives have a stolid position that one must cling to in order to belong in their ranks. No change, never, no way, they believe they're preserving the Republic from its plagues or whatever.

Liberals have to stake out wacky, separatist, un-Conventional ways of looking at issues. It goes with the territory.


Isn't this the same conversation we had about why Conservatives are rarely funny?

Oh this is too much!

I agree with Marxist!

Help! I need therapy!

 

[Marxist]

Re: Re: Why the herd?

Oh this is too much!

I agree with Marxist!

Help! I need therapy!

It was bound to happen at some point. Go see Yogi Bare and he'll teach you to learn to love again.

 

[Viper Vic]

The left has the most lemming like mentality of all humans. ppman you are just an orgasm away from thinking clearly. It will clear all that socialist shit from your brain.

In the mean time I wish someone would take your power cord from your computer.

 

[Marxist]

The left has the most lemming like mentality of all humans. ppman you are just an orgasm away from thinking clearly. It will clear all that socialist shit from your brain.

In the mean time I wish someone would take your power cord from your computer.

Examples? If you're going to attack Peepers you've gotta bring up some examples. Personal insults slide off his back like yesterday's jellied eel.

 

[miles]

Re: Why do the Left Wing have such a herd mentality?

You know the sort of thing I mean. Anything the Government does is correct. Any opposition is unpatriotic.

When one Left Winger appears others are sure to follow as if in a well-drilled, pack, killing machine.

Why don't they question?

Why do they only sneer?

Why can't they see the broader picture?

Oh yeah this applies to the UK as well as the USA so Left Wingers, it's no good calling me an American hating fucktard on this one. Just answer me my question...

Are you capable of independent thought?

 

[bluespoke]

The left has the most lemming like mentality of all humans. ppman you are just an orgasm away from thinking clearly. It will clear all that socialist shit from your brain.

In the mean time I wish someone would take your power cord from your computer.

There are just as many lemmings on both sides of the political spectrum.

Whether you agree with him or not, calling p_p_man a lemming is foolish.

The lack of agreement for his unique (an understatement) ideas would suggest that he is anything but a lemming.

Extreme, yes. Lemming never!