Why are men such dangerous parents to their kids?

[LJ_Reloaded]

Whoops, sorry, wrong statistics.

 

[Tryharder62]

It would be interesting to further the study by seeing what mothers and fathers were abandoned to raise the child alone. The stress has to be terrible at times. The responsibility intense for both males and females put in that situation.

 

[phrodeau]

It would be interesting to further the study by seeing what mothers and fathers were abandoned to raise the child alone. The stress has to be terrible at times. The responsibility intense for both males and females put in that situation.

True, but this is a Le Jerque thread, so there's no chance of any further information.

And since you're a female, he'll eventually accuse you of condoning child abuse.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And since you're a female, he'll eventually accuse you of condoning child abuse.

10 bux sayz he does it before page 3.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Those stats line up fairly well with what you'd expect to be honest. Guys simply have better job prospects. Wanna lay odds on the average income on single men with children vs single women with children?

It's not an "excuse" it's just a fact that we know enough about who commits crimes and why and we can ignore this as something we don't care about or we can improve America.

I'd hate to see that same chart broken down by race.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Guys simply have better job prospects.

Really? Or is it they just choose better jobs?

I have seen plenty of women making big fuckin' bux as surgeons, lawyers, accountants, engineers and even business owners.

They don't seem to have a problem.

Wanna lay odds on the average income on single men with children vs single women with children?

That's the total average....which is bull fucking shit to support your wacky left wing crying games.

I bet you I can name 39 job fields a single mother makes more money than a single father.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Really? Or is it they just choose better jobs?

I have seen plenty of women making big fuckin' bux as surgeons, lawyers, accountants, engineers and even business owners.

They don't seem to have a problem.



That's the total average....which is bull fucking shit to support your wacky left wing crying games.

I bet you I can name 39 job fields a single mother makes more money than a single father.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/28/commentary/everyday/sahadi_paytable/

39 jobs where women make more than men
Men often are the bigger breadwinners ... but sometimes the women win out.
February 28, 2006: 11:57 AM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Warren Farrell, the San Diego-based author of "Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap � and What Women Can Do About It," has identified more than 80 occupations in which women earn more than men on average.

In the 39 jobs listed below, women's median earnings exceeded men's by at least 5 percent and in some cases by as much as 43 percent. To see why, click here.

(sample list)
Legislators $43,316 $32,656 33%

Automotive service technicians and mechanics $40,664 $31,460 29%

Motor vehicle operators, all other $22,412 $18,252 23%

Baggage porters, bellhops and concierges $26,468 $21,684 22%

Telephone operators $22,152 $18,356 21%

Financial analysts $69,004 $58,604 18%

Telecommunications line installers and repairers $40,716 $36,348 12%

Aerospace engineers $78,416 $70,356 11%

Radiation therapists $59,124 $53,300 11%

Automotive body and related repairers $30,888 $28,132 10%

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

It would be interesting to further the study by seeing what mothers and fathers were abandoned to raise the child alone. The stress has to be terrible at times. The responsibility intense for both males and females put in that situation.

Funny, how we ask for all these nuances on statistics that make women look bad.

Nobody ever asks for them with statistics that make men look bad.

 

[BotanyBoy]

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/28/commentary/everyday/sahadi_paytable/

39 jobs where women make more than men
Men often are the bigger breadwinners ... but sometimes the women win out.
February 28, 2006: 11:57 AM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Warren Farrell, the San Diego-based author of "Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap � and What Women Can Do About It," has identified more than 80 occupations in which women earn more than men on average.

In the 39 jobs listed below, women's median earnings exceeded men's by at least 5 percent and in some cases by as much as 43 percent. To see why, click here.

(sample list)
Legislators $43,316 $32,656 33%

Automotive service technicians and mechanics $40,664 $31,460 29%

Motor vehicle operators, all other $22,412 $18,252 23%

Baggage porters, bellhops and concierges $26,468 $21,684 22%

Telephone operators $22,152 $18,356 21%

Financial analysts $69,004 $58,604 18%

Telecommunications line installers and repairers $40,716 $36,348 12%

Aerospace engineers $78,416 $70,356 11%

Radiation therapists $59,124 $53,300 11%

Automotive body and related repairers $30,888 $28,132 10%

Yea I had all that ready for when the SexistDoucheGuzzlerSeanCA came back with how all women get a gang rape and beat down for a paycheck every week while guys get to live the life of Riley just for being born with a dick.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Yea I had all that ready for when the SexistDoucheGuzzlerSeanCA came back with how all women get a gang rape and beat down for a paycheck every week while guys get to live the life of Riley just for being born with a dick.

She gets a paycheck for that?

(Hey guys, I'm just kidding.)

 

[Sean Renaud]

I almost never SEE stats that make men look bad in the first fucking place.

While I question some of the things in that article it doesn't ACTUALLY matter. Several of those are high education jobs. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of those murders and abuse (from both sides) come from low income folks. I can all but promise you that not a single one of them came from Aerospace Engineers.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I almost never SEE stats that make men look bad in the first fucking place.
(snip)

WTF. You've never seen rape stats, high school dropout stats, mortality stats, or a bunch of other things?

Really?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I almost never SEE stats that make men look bad in the first fucking place.

While I question some of the things in that article it doesn't ACTUALLY matter. Several of those are high education jobs. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of those murders and abuse (from both sides) come from low income folks. I can all but promise you that not a single one of them came from Aerospace Engineers.

Because you never look for them...you get "Women = victim 200% of the time." and that's the word of GAWD ALLMIGHTAHHHH!!!

Several are high education/training jobs...most are pretty fucking common though.

The point being "On average women make nothing b/c the evil white man" is a pile of fucking shit the left wing and you, absolutely LOVE. It's bullshit.....

 

[Sean Renaud]

WTF. You've never seen rape stats, high school dropout stats, mortality stats, or a bunch of other things?

Really?

I've only seen the rape stats because you post them. I know the high school drop out rate is higher amongst boys but I've always seen it framed as a failure of our schools not as a failure of our boys. Mortality rates don't make us look bad.

I suppose if we're counting things like there are more men in the military or men average taller than women up there on your list then sure I've seen tons. But no. I also don't go digging for this crap. I tend to be more interested in finding a solution than listening to people point fingers and if there is no solution (or none people are willing to get on board with) tuning it out after that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I tend to be more interested in finding a solution

LMFAO!!!!!

SR solution to everything....
http://t1.***********/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTaXNfdSUsHUvYXM9rpn-FI92GMGSuU8KfOitFfb2ScfXXUjW0

 

[Pairaclities]

Whoops, sorry, wrong statistics.

The way I read this it appears to be pretty consistent that women alone have very close to 2x the events of both abuse and deaths than men alone.

So, my question to this chart would be:

What is the ratio of mothers to fathers who are single and awarded custody of the children, as well as absent fathers due to abandonment?
It would seem these stats only have meaning by understanding how many single mothers have custody of children, and how many single fathers have custody of children.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The way I read this it appears to be pretty consistent that women alone have very close to 2x the events of both abuse and deaths than men alone.

So, my question to this chart would be:

What is the ratio of mothers to fathers who are single and awarded custody of the children, as well as absent fathers due to abandonment?
It would seem these stats only have meaning by understanding how many single mothers have custody of children, and how many single fathers have custody of children.

What about absent mothers due to abandonment? Like women don't just throw the deuces up and roll out

And the ratio is fucked....in most states if you can't prove mom is abusing the kids or neglecting them due to substance abuse, mom get's the kids and dad is told to stfu, cough up a check and deal.

"Approximately 84% of custodial parents are mothers, and
16% of custodial parents are fathers"
http://singleparents.about.com/od/legalissues/p/portrait.htm

 

[Boxlicker101]

The way I read this it appears to be pretty consistent that women alone have very close to 2x the events of both abuse and deaths than men alone.

So, my question to this chart would be:

What is the ratio of mothers to fathers who are single and awarded custody of the children, as well as absent fathers due to abandonment?
It would seem these stats only have meaning by understanding how many single mothers have custody of children, and how many single fathers have custody of children.

Why do you omit widows from the calculations?

 

[badbabysitter]

Really? Or is it they just choose better jobs?

http://www.news.com.au/business/wor...nd-lands-the-job/story-e6frfm9r-1226679923367


The Perth management consultant's Tumblr post detailed his struggles to find work in the 1990s when he had plenty of experience in sales and engineering but still struggled to impress potential employers.

After four months of knock backs and very few calls despite his experience he took a closer look at his CV and was horrified when he realised why potential employers may have disregarded him.

"I was particularly pleased with the decision I made to brand it with my name with just enough bold positioning to make it instantly recognisable, and as I sat scouring every detail of that CV a horrible truth slowly dawned on me. My name," he wrote on Tumblr.

"My first name is Kim. Technically its gender neutral but my experience showed that most people's default setting in the absence of any other clues is to assume Kim is a women's name. And nothing else on my CV identified me as male. At first I thought I was being a little paranoid but engineering, trades, sales and management were all definitely male dominated industries. So I pictured all the managers I had over the years and, forming an amalgam of them in my mind, I read through the document as I imagined they would have. It was like being hit on the head with a big sheet of unbreakable glass ceiling."

Adding the honorific Mr to the CV soon changed everything.

"I made one change that day. I put Mr in front of my name on my CV. It looked a little too formal for my liking but I got an interview for the very next job I applied for. And the one after that. It all happened in a fortnight and the second job was a substantial increase in responsibility over anything I had done before," Mr O'Grady said.

The experience gave him an invaluable insight into the struggles many women face trying to climb the corporate ladder.

Wendy Tuohy blog: Discrimination validated and documented by a generous man.

The original post- which has over 2,000 comments- has been republished by Atlantic Media, Quartz, and AOL plus it has featured in news stories on The Daily Mail, The Huffington Post, ABC News in the US.

Mr O'Grady wrote a follow up post commenting on how far and wide the story had spread and how often men knowingly benefit invasive sexism.

"People have expressed sadness, disappointment, anger, but no man or woman has expressed disbelief. I have also not seen a single example of anyone declaring that my story is only relevant to my local experience as an Australian. It's been shared widely throughout the USA, Canada and the UK, and I have even seen a few links from outside the anglosphere. Yet everywhere it is greeted with knowing assent,' he said.

"The sad reality is this shows we all know how real and invasive sexism is. We all know that sexism unnecessarily impacts negatively on women's lives and men benefit from that."

or

http://www.hcamag.com/hr-news/obese-female-candidates-shown-the-door-141863.aspx

It’s a piece of research which may serve as a timely reminder to HR professionals to take stock of recurring discrimination issues and prejudice in the recruitment phase. Not surprisingly, obese women remain the most prejudged group in the candidacy pool.

The study, Stigmatization of obese individuals by human resource professionals: an experimental study, was published by BioMed Central by a team of German researchers from the University of Tübingen. A volunteer sample of more than 120 HR professionals were tasked with matching standardized photographs of a range of candidates with a set list of work-related prestige and achievements. The candidates differed with respect to gender, ethnicity, and Body Mass Index (BMI).

The study revealed that HR consistently underestimated the occupational prestige of obese individuals and overestimated it for healthy-weight individuals. “Obese people were more often disqualified from being hired and less often nominated for a supervisory position, while non-ethnic normal-weight individuals were favoured. Stigmatisation was most pronounced in obese females,” the study found.

The data suggested that HR professionals are prone to pronounced weight stigmatisation, especially in women, and highlighted the need for increased awareness of discrimination and bias at the hiring stage.

Other key findings from the study included:


HR professionals showed an overestimation of occupational prestige in normal weight individuals and an underestimation in obese individuals.

Only 2% of study participants credited the obese women as having a high prestige occupation such as a medical doctor or architect.

When asked whom they absolutely would not hire, HR professionals showed a strong weight stigmatisation.

42% disqualified the obese female and 19% the obese male.

Non-ethnic normal-weight candidates were favoured for supervisory positions, while obese individuals were rarely selected.

Only 6% of study participants considered obese females suitable for a supervisory role.

While there was also an overall mild gender and race bias in supervisor position selections, weight produced by far the largest inequalities, especially in women.

In general, both female and male HR professionals share similar attitudes towards obese individuals.

*Notable limitations of the study were that the researchers only had access to data from HR professionals who were volunteered to participate in the study and that the resumes of the candidates were not included. Thus, HR participants had to base their decision solely on the applicant’s picture.

or

just look up Lilly Ledbetter... you know, the case which prompted the Fair Pay Act of 2009 that you claim pays women thousands of dollars for having a vagina

 

[Tryharder62]

Funny, how we ask for all these nuances on statistics that make women look bad.

Nobody ever asks for them with statistics that make men look bad.

My momma told me I ain't a nobody!

 

[WeedSmoke420]

lol..

 

[BotanyBoy]

The experience gave him an invaluable insight into the struggles many women face trying to climb the corporate ladder.

One guy's shit story...fucky doo. There are a thousand other factors that could effect his job hunting game.

It could also be blatant sexism....file a lawsuit.

"The sad reality is this shows we all know how real and invasive sexism is. We all know that sexism unnecessarily impacts negatively on women's lives and men benefit from that."

Because women are the only victims of sexism....LMFAO!! youz funny BBS.

just look up Lilly Ledbetter... you know, the case which prompted the Fair Pay Act of 2009 that you claim pays women thousands of dollars for having a vagina

I never claimed it did b/c that little 1.6 TRILLION dollar a year bit got canned, you would know that if you weren't retarded. That's right...feminism wanted more welfare every year than the entire cost of the Iraq war, b/c that's fair....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank fucking god that nutty bitch Nancy Pelosi got fucking stuffed on that deal. On the upside it gave her and the rest of her "do as i say not as I do" liburhul crew who pay their male staff more than their female staff a chance to go "LOOK HOW MUCH GOP HATES WOMENZ!!!"...that was the only win they got out of that. Otherwise they are full of shit lying ass hypocrite lefties....shocking

Oh and after some google fu I can list over 100 job fields where women average higher pay than men. Must be all the evil white guy patriarchy

 

[Pairaclities]

Why do you omit widows from the calculations?

If she is single she would count. duh?

 

[badbabysitter]

One guy's shit story...fucky doo. There are a thousand other factors that could effect his job hunting game.

It could also be blatant sexism....file a lawsuit.



Because women are the only victims of sexism....LMFAO!! youz funny BBS.

No.. you said women might just be looking for other jobs.. I posted something which showed a clear example of where it wasnt true.. you then jump to mocking and deriding.. you're Ishmael now



I never claimed it did b/c that little 1.6 TRILLION dollar a year bit got canned, you would know that if you weren't retarded. That's right...feminism wanted more welfare every year than the entire cost of the Iraq war, b/c that's fair....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

so you never said this

We have been over this.




You're trying to change it with the law though. Hell they even tried to pass a "Fair wage" bill or some fucking shit like that where the US gov would send every citizen born with a vagina 10,500 bucks a year to compensate for the wage gap....HAHAHAHAHAhA yea...equality my fucking ass.



.

was that Cade? because I couldnt find anything even remotely resembling your claim

Thank fucking god that nutty bitch Nancy Pelosi got fucking stuffed on that deal. On the upside it gave her and the rest of her "do as i say not as I do" liburhul crew who pay their male staff more than their female staff a chance to go "LOOK HOW MUCH GOP HATES WOMENZ!!!"...that was the only win they got out of that. Otherwise they are full of shit lying ass hypocrite lefties....shocking

except for the part where that never happened

Oh and after some google fu I can list over 100 job fields where women average higher pay than men. Must be all the evil white guy patriarchy

and I can do that same..in fact i listed one example wherin a woman with the exact same job got paid significantly less

you have shown to date ; zero


must be my evil feminazi powers at work

 

[BotanyBoy]

No.. you said women might just be looking for other jobs.. I posted something which showed a clear example of where it wasnt true.. you then jump to mocking and deriding.. you're Ishmael now

No I said on average they choose lower earning career paths and they are less aggressive about asking for promotions/raises than men. You clearly demonstrated this wrong? B/c even the US Gov and the Obama admin say those are the two most prominent factors in the wage gap in overall MvF income.

so you never said this

Quote:
Originally Posted by BotanyBoy View Post

You're trying to change it with the law though. Hell they even tried to pass a "Fair wage" bill or some fucking shit like that where the US gov would send every citizen born with a vagina 10,500 bucks a year to compensate for the wage gap....HAHAHAHAHAhA yea...equality my fucking ass.

Words...they mean things, L2Read hero.

was that Cade? because I couldnt find anything even remotely resembling your claim

Actually it was a zumi thread I think, it was a few years ago I don't think it's around anymore.

except for the part where that never happened

So if I look up the WH and pelosi I wont find anything about them not paying their female staff as much as their male staff??


According to publicly available salary data at the website Legistorm, Pelosi’s female employees earned an average annual salary of $96,394 in fiscal year 2011. Male employees earned $123,000 on average, a difference of 27.6 percent

http://www.legistorm.com/salaries.html

It's all in here....male and female officials both DUMOH and REPOZ pay women less on average.

and I can do that same..in fact i listed one example wherin a woman with the exact same job got paid significantly less

you have shown to date ; zero


must be my evil feminazi powers at work

Here is the entire list....you and your "Patriarchy!!! WOOO" bullshit can get a' stepping now.

https://www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=c02bc91c72c1e3f2&q=jobs+women+make+more+than+men