Who's Dirtier? Men or Women?

[dr_mabeuse]

Was watching a documentary about an up-and-coming (NPI) adult film director who's making waves by focusing more on the interpersonal action between his actors -- more emotion, expression, and interaction (kissing, hugging, responding) -- and less on meat shots. More faces and less genitals. It's something I've been waiting for for a long time, since I think faces are a lot sexier than gonads. But this post isn't about that.

He uses amateur actors, often real life couples, and he was talking about how he gets a lot of his ideas from his actors/actresses, and that the women are always more creative and raunchier than the men. He says that there's been a Second Wave of female sexual liberation over the last 10 years and that now women are more sexually creative and adventurous than men.

Any opinions on this?

 

[scorallover]

I think it is more a case of women being raised not to express their sexuality. I do think that is changing, but how much is the question. My own personal thought on this is that all people are sexual in nature. Some people are just more at ease with their thoughts. I don't think anyone is 100% at ease with their sexual thoughts. There is always that tiny little, dark closet in the back of our mind that we don't feel comfortable going. I think that applies to all emotions, not just sexual or erotic.

 

[BTTap]

I've been monogomous for so long that I missed the 2nd Wave of Sexual Liberation or whatever it is called. That said, women tend to be more emotional, situational, and whole-body than men sexually. They also are capable of orgasm after orgasm after orgasm.....
Those traits lend themselves to more creativity (and "dirtiness") when it comes to role play, foreplay, non-penetrative erotic play, etc.
That said, we men tend to be more physical, and more focussed on copulation itself.
From personal experience, I have always been the one to be more creative with messing around more with sexual positions, pace, etc. My partners (women) have generally been more creative in the other stuff-which is pretty awesome, IMHO.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Debauchery replaced opinions; no one's comfortable expressing their thoughts these days but everyone will show you his ass.

 

[lance gt]

Guys may think they're raunchier, but listening in on a female only conversation will change their minds instantly. They go much deeper into things emotionally than we do, which makes it hit home with a harder impact.

 

[sereneone4u]

I think it is more a case of women being raised not to express their sexuality. I do think that is changing, but how much is the question. My own personal thought on this is that all people are sexual in nature. Some people are just more at ease with their thoughts. I don't think anyone is 100% at ease with their sexual thoughts. There is always that tiny little, dark closet in the back of our mind that we don't feel comfortable going. I think that applies to all emotions, not just sexual or erotic.

I agree that women are raised not to express their sexuality and that fact is changing little by little.

I mean here we are on a board of erotica and as a woman that comes here and expresses herself, I still have to put up with the occasional ass that thinks I owe him something because I post here and even worse, people who think I deserve to be treated like that because I sexually express myself on an erotica board.

Men complain because women are not sexually expressive and then when we are they condemn us for it.

My girlfriends and I are much raunchier than my guy friends. Maybe it is because many of us feel restrained sexually so that when we are unfettered, we want to go buck wild.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Well, if anything ever happens to HM, I'm sure going to find out!

 

[sereneone4u]

Was watching a documentary about an up-and-coming (NPI) adult film director who's making waves by focusing more on the interpersonal action between his actors -- more emotion, expression, and interaction (kissing, hugging, responding) -- and less on meat shots. More faces and less genitals. It's something I've been waiting for for a long time, since I think faces are a lot sexier than gonads. But this post isn't about that.

He uses amateur actors, often real life couples, and he was talking about how he gets a lot of his ideas from his actors/actresses, and that the women are always more creative and raunchier than the men. He says that there's been a Second Wave of female sexual liberation over the last 10 years and that now women are more sexually creative and adventurous than men.

Any opinions on this?

I also wanted to say

Dr_Mabeuse, you are my favorite Lit author. Your stories both frighten and delight me on various levels. Please keep doing what you do.

 

[Anomandaris]

I also wanted to say

Dr_Mabeuse, you are my favorite Lit author. Your stories both frighten and delight me on various levels. Please keep doing what you do.

Indeed, the Dr's writing is delightful. One of many Lit authors that inspired me to start my own writing.

In response to the topic as a whole, I agree that many women are inclined to repress outward expressions of sexuality. I know getting my ex to admit what her fantasies were was incredibly difficult.

I just didn't care and was blunt about what I wanted, at least in private with her. Didn't always get it, but often did.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I think that women,speaking generally, are just more practiced at expression. If you go to say, GLBT forum or fetish and sexuality , you'll see what a large percentage of men reply with "that's hot " or "Wish I was fucking that ass" and how much they rely on pictures.

Generally you'll see more nuanced communication from the women. More analyisis, more thought-sharing.

 

[glynndah]

Men, as a general rule, seem to be more goal-oriented while women tend to enjoy the process along the way to achieving the goal.

{That made a lot more sense in my head than it seems to in black and white.}

 

[lovecraft68]

Men think they are seem to feel the need to enforce that opinion by being, well by being men.

Women know they are, and just sit back and smile.

 

[mynameisben]

Can "dirtiness of mind" really be quantified? I don't think so. Distinguishing levels of dirtiness between men and women is just one step further into fantasy.

 

[lovecraft68]

Can "dirtiness of mind" really be quantified? I don't think so. Distinguishing levels of dirtiness between men and women is just one step further into fantasy.

You say this like its a bad thing.

Besides, aren;t we all posting on a site that is making its living off of fantasy?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Also, the blood that goes into the penis often drains the parts of a man's brains that run the speech center. Even unusually loquacious guys can turn into grunters when they get a hardon.

 

[3113]

He says that there's been a Second Wave of female sexual liberation over the last 10 years and that now women are more sexually creative and adventurous than men. Any opinions on this?

I think most men want this to be true. There is always that lust for the imagined "whore" side of women, a wish that the prim lady is, underneath, a wanton. She'll let down her hair, rip open that demure white dress, and become the sluttiest slut you've ever met. Nothing will be too degrading, she'll want to wallow in the mud, and beg you to make her do things beyond your dirtiest dreams. The virginal nun, once introduced to sex, will be come as wild as a Bacchae.

That's always been the male fantasy, hasn't it? But ya know, the reality, so far as i've seen, ain't really like that. Some women are raunchy, a lot aren't. And I don't think that, on average, women are more so then men--though perhaps more are willing to be openly now, making men and woman more equal, which always makes it seem like there are more women then men doing whatever (if there were four women supreme court justices to five men, most people would say that the court was jam-packed with women, right?).

Also, I rather think that an adult film director making a documentary about his actors' personal lives would---by the very nature of this beast--be likelier to have more sexually vocal and open women. Even if his films are more romantic, these women are still having sex on film--they're not going to be shy and demure.

My opinion, therefore, is that the evidence sample is too small and too unrepresentative. I'm not yet convinced.

I think that women,speaking generally, are just more practiced at expression. If you go to say, GLBT forum or fetish and sexuality , you'll see what a large percentage of men reply with "that's hot " or "Wish I was fucking that ass" and how much they rely on pictures.

Generally you'll see more nuanced communication from the women. More analyisis, more thought-sharing.

Good point. And I'm in agreement.

 

[lovecraft68]

Also, the blood that goes into the penis often drains the parts of a man's brains that run the speech center. Even unusually loquacious guys can turn into grunters when they get a hardon.

Umm, I... uh..... what?

 

[mynameisben]

Also, the blood that goes into the penis often drains the parts of a man's brains that run the speech center. Even unusually loquacious guys can turn into grunters when they get a hardon.

Turning into a grunter after I get a hard-on is generally the goal I had in mind all along. Loquacality is becum onely an after thot.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Turning into a grunter after I get a hard-on is generally the goal I had in mind all along. Loquacality is becum onely an after thot.

I get tongue-tied.

 

[estragon]

Debauchery replaced opinions; no one's comfortable expressing their thoughts these days but everyone will show you his ass.

Jimmy me boy, you are living proof that the two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[lovecraft68]

I get tongue-tied.

Actually if I'm in Dom mode I'm running my mouth non-stop and come out with some pretty nasty one liners and demeaning remarks, usually they're pretty good.

Or even they're not they have to tell me they are.

 

[estragon]

3113: "the prim lady is, underneath, a wonton." Only in Chinese restaurants. Elsewhere, she is a wanton. Sorry, need my daily ration of quibble.

Besides, believe it or not, I reached seventy years of age, and I never thought I'd get there.

 

[mynameisben]

3113: "the prim lady is, underneath, a wonton." Only in Chinese restaurants. Elsewhere, she is a wanton. Sorry, need my daily ration of quibble.

Maybe she's just a-wantin'.

 

[Carreira]

Definitly Men.... They have the spread the seed gene. And thats proven

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh look, a spammer who actually posts to the topic. Will wonders never cease...