Who deleted Markee's thread?

[TaintedB]

GB actually crawling with crypto-subs (& doms).

Yeah, that's quite obvious, but who likes or appreciates crypto other than cyptologists like yourself? I know honesty and directness can get a bit boring, but after all the gameplaying that goes on when people hide certain aspects of themselves some or all of the time, I find it extremely refreshing.

It's quite funny to turn the table around and imagine all sorts of crypto-straight-sexed people posting coy little hints in here about their vanilla-ness and hoping someone else straight would get the clue (or that one of us kinksters who appreciates vanilla would) and flirt with them in a vanilla fashion. "I really lurve the profession of missonary!"--batting eyelashes prettily. Ok, that is my brand new "when pigs fly" scenario, lol, now that I have been so cruelly disillusioned of my older one.

 

[shy slave]

Relax little girlie, you've already more than achieved your lifelong goal. You have also made it into my stupid troll bin, which has only three or four other members rattling around in there. Quite an acomplisment in such a short time.

Thank God its you

I have been having sleepness nights worrying about who has a 'stupid troll bin'

Is bytor in there, and is he chained?

Dare i ask for pics of that

 

[Kajira Callista]

Careful.. talk about me too much and I'll be forced to stalk you the way I do KC.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Soooooooooooooooooooooo

What the hell did i miss? cant ya put it back so i can see then delete it again?

 

[rosco rathbone]

but who likes or appreciates crypto other than cyptologists like yourself?

 

[graceanne]

What the hell did i miss? cant ya put it back so i can see then delete it again?

I second that, but not right now, I gotta take a nap. Wait till I wake up.

 

[Kajira Callista]

I second that, but not right now, I gotta take a nap. Wait till I wake up.

*climbs in the bed and steals all the blankets*

 

[Debbie]

LOL, I like that idea very much. The idea of the GB members with their astonishingly (and consistently) cruel inane, obsessive,and insane online behavior looking down on this forum for anything and pulling this moral high ground shit has really made my day. It's one of those things I had, before this event, of classified in the "pigs flying" category of possibility.

According to you asking people their opinion on something to you is looking down on this forum?

What a silly statement.

Honestly most of the replies confirm exactly why I lurk in the BDSM forum and rarely post.

Some of you are very closed minded. Which amazes me because of the way you are open to your sexuality and lifestyle.

On the GB most things will be discussed. I don't get that same feeling here.


And if the thread had not broken one of lit's rules then it would not have been removed.
Unless Marquis requested it be removed.

 

[graceanne]

*climbs in the bed and steals all the blankets*

*tickles kc to the floor, and grabs the blankets back*

MINE, MINE I TELL YOU, ALL MINE! MUHAHAHA

 

[bg23]

LOL, well in essence that is all the moderating that happens here as we try to maintain respect for free speech and open discussion. The difference I see though is we do not as a rule then go to other forums and bring it back to our own to discuss the correctness of the threads/posts there and then act on the consensus of a few to have things changed in other forums...especially when they have clearly not appreciated the element of humiliation play in BDSM so have no grounds from which to comment or rule. It is not a vanilla type method of play, in fact if done in mainstream relationships would be considered abusive, but it is part of play for many in this lifestyle and is not considered abusive by either or any of the participants.

entirely irrelevant.
the premise that you base that justification on is that both parties feel that the play of that sort is acceptable.
in order for this to happen, both participants must be aware that it is happening.
so far as it could be seen, the girl was not aware of what was happening.

that's been cleared up, now, of course, and as I've said before, I've no more issue with the matter.

of course, i continue to fail to see how voicing my dissent could be called "changing things in other forums". i lurk here. i consider this my forum as much as anybody's. i have a right, i believe, to have an opinion on things that go on here, whether i actually post here or not.

 

[sunfox]

I KC.

*stalks, too*

 

[sunfox]

Stalking me eh?

Not that I mind... but have you even heard any of the mythology around the white stag? There is a reason I chose that as my new name

Pursue me ot your own peril, no one knows where the white stag leads.

I like the new name... and am very familiar with the white stag mythology, as it happens.

Foxes are bright little hunters.. have no fear, because I definitely don't. (Though admittedly, at times that particular lack gets me caught in the henhouse stealing eggs)

*busily stalks the Stag too.. cause the more the merrier, and she likes cluttering the thread*

 

[LadyG]

entirely irrelevant.
the premise that you base that justification on is that both parties feel that the play of that sort is acceptable.
in order for this to happen, both participants must be aware that it is happening.
so far as it could be seen, the girl was not aware of what was happening.

that's been cleared up, now, of course, and as I've said before, I've no more issue with the matter.

of course, i continue to fail to see how voicing my dissent could be called "changing things in other forums". i lurk here. i consider this my forum as much as anybody's. i have a right, i believe, to have an opinion on things that go on here, whether i actually post here or not.

Bravo

 

[arctic-stranger]

entirely irrelevant.

cut....
of course, i continue to fail to see how voicing my dissent could be called "changing things in other forums". i lurk here. i consider this my forum as much as anybody's. i have a right, i believe, to have an opinion on things that go on here, whether i actually post here or not.

NO, this is MY forum....all mine! How dare you post on my forum....and for the record, if you ever disagree with me again, i will darn you to HECK!

There are to be NO DISAGREEMENTS in this thread, or in any other thread. If you dont share MY opinion, then you can bloody well just shut up! My opinions are clearly reasonable and well informed, and if you differ with them, you are clearly an obtuse boor.

(Hoping that everyone here knows my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek)

 

[catalina_francisco]

=bg23

of course, i continue to fail to see how voicing my dissent could be called "changing things in other forums".

I'm afraid unfortunately that you have perhaps assumed I felt you had something personally to do with making it disappear, which I didn't, unless there is something I am not aware of. I spoke from things which were related to me behind the scenes which indicated perhaps GB posters were involved in this previous decision, not any person in particular.

i lurk here. i consider this my forum as much as anybody's. i have a right, i believe, to have an opinion on things that go on here, whether i actually post here or not.

That is everyone's right, though I do get the impression many made judgements from a vanilla standpoint, not acknowledging this is a BDSM board which incorporates discussions and practices found within that community. IMO it is like going to the GLBT forum and saying to them it is okay to have such a forum as long as they aren't going to post pics of or discuss same sex desires or experiences. The reason both boards were created was largely to provide a forum where such lifestyles could be discussed and shared in an environment where it was understood and shared, not asked to conform to the mainstream reality of others. When that happens it then becomes just as much a right of the regular posters to 'voice their opinion' to discuss the lifestyle they have chosen on the forum designed for that.

Catalina

 

[bg23]

That is everyone's right, though I do get the impression many made judgements from a vanilla standpoint, not acknowledging this is a BDSM board which incorporates discussions and practices found within that community. IMO it is like going to the GLBT forum and saying to them it is okay to have such a forum as long as they aren't going to post pics of or discuss same sex desires or experiences. The reason both boards were created was largely to provide a forum where such lifestyles could be discussed and shared in an environment where it was understood and shared, not asked to conform to the mainstream reality of others. When that happens it then becomes just as much a right of the regular posters to 'voice their opinion' to discuss the lifestyle they have chosen on the forum designed for that.

*shakes head

the first part of my previous post, i believe, addressed this.

the bdsm element does not come in until you get past the premise that both parties are aware of what is going on.

 

[catalina_francisco]

*shakes head

the first part of my previous post, i believe, addressed this.

the bdsm element does not come in until you get past the premise that both parties are aware of what is going on.

I am not disagreeing with you totally....except to say that for some it was not seen in the same terms as others. Personally I saw it as something which happens on many BDSM sites and where both parties involved have their own reasons for acting as such...some sites even have areas set up for the exact purpose of posting pics such as Marquis did, meant to cause humiliation to the other person (sub) but recognised by both in their own way as an accepted and appreciated practice.

If I were thinking from a mainstream sense of reality though it was easy to assume this was an outrageous act irresponsibly committed..and I recognise that for many that was a natural assumption to make. Fortunately, my thinking pattern and faith in Marquis as a person prevented me from jumping to incorrect assumptions. In the end he was able to prove to anyone who needed it that he did have permission, and she was not going to sue Lit over allowing it, so the whole thing was able to be resumed.

Catalinahttp://www.smilies4you.de/content/liebe/b18.gif

 

[Weevil]

We have a little thing called safe, sane and consensual to which most adhere....in this case that was not breached by Marquis, nor were the Lit rules.

Sure they were. In order for the rules not to have been breached, one would either have to think that

A) He had the girls permission to post her picture

B) A picture is not personal information.

Marquis admitted that he didn't have her permission to put her picture here on Lit(and, more to the point, any permission he did have to share the picture with anyone is second hand) and what someone looks like is very personal information. The thread was deleted by someone, and not either of the board's mods. Who does that leave? I'd say someone who's a pretty good arbiter of what breaks the rules and what doesn't.

That is everyone's right, though I do get the impression many made judgements from a vanilla standpoint, not acknowledging this is a BDSM board which incorporates discussions and practices found within that community. IMO it is like going to the GLBT forum and saying to them it is okay to have such a forum as long as they aren't going to post pics of or discuss same sex desires or experiences.

Hah, that's just silly. There are certain board rules and they apply to all of the boards, regardless of what lifestyle they represent or community they serve. One of those rules involves posting people's personal information without their permission.

Honestly, I don't know anything about the BDSM community. If y'all want to get together and engage in whatever it is you Chocolate(What ice cream flavour should I derisively refer to you as? Strawberry? Rum 'n' Raisin? Jamocha Almond Fudge?) folk do Go nuts. Have fun. That's what the board is about.

But BG was asking the people on the general board whether or not it was a violation of the boards rules. It was. Some of us made our judgements from a "vanilla" standpoint because the rules are pretty black and white. It doesn't say "You can't post another's personal information without their consent, unless it represents the community standards and practices your particular sub-board represents."

It just says don't do it. It was done. The thread got deleted. Not a big deal. I'm a little weirded out that it was done by a mod and that the board's other mod is okay with it but that's not much of my business.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Sure they were. In order for the rules not to have been breached, one would either have to think that

A) He had the girls permission to post her picture

B) A picture is not personal information.

Marquis admitted that he didn't have her permission to put her picture here on Lit(and, more to the point, any permission he did have to share the picture with anyone is second hand) and what someone looks like is very personal information. The thread was deleted by someone, and not either of the board's mods. Who does that leave? I'd say someone who's a pretty good arbiter of what breaks the rules and what doesn't.



Hah, that's just silly. There are certain board rules and they apply to all of the boards, regardless of what lifestyle they represent or community they serve. One of those rules involves posting people's personal information without their permission.

Honestly, I don't know anything about the BDSM community. If y'all want to get together and engage in whatever it is you Chocolate(What ice cream flavour should I derisively refer to you as? Strawberry? Rum 'n' Raisin? Jamocha Almond Fudge?) folk do Go nuts. Have fun. That's what the board is about.

But BG was asking the people on the general board whether or not it was a violation of the boards rules. It was. Some of us made our judgements from a "vanilla" standpoint because the rules are pretty black and white. It doesn't say "You can't post another's personal information without their consent, unless it represents the community standards and practices your particular sub-board represents."

It just says don't do it. It was done. The thread got deleted. Not a big deal. I'm a little weirded out that it was done by a mod and that the board's other mod is okay with it but that's not much of my business.

Better catch up on the latest. The powers that be deleted without asking for proof or any explanation, said if they were provided with proof then they agreed it was not breaking the rules and could be resumed....and as of yesterday, they have the proof which cannot be screwed to be said to be fabricated and so they have no problem with the thread continuing. As Marquis has said, anyone wanting to view the proof themselves need only ask him and he will provide it. as to mods supporting each other...I do believe in free speech, I do believe in checking facts before acting, and working together as a team sure beats trying to stab each other in the back.....besides that, he is a great moderator so why wouldn't I give him 100% support when I knew he had not acted incorrectly?

Also, if you count pics as personal information and thus posting them as against the rules, why do we have an Amateur Pic Forum, where many threads are stated to be posting pics of partners, friends, etc.?

Catalina

 

[Weevil]

Better catch up on the latest. The powers that be deleted without asking for proof or any explanation, said if they were provided with proof then they agreed it was not breaking the rules and could be resumed....and as of yesterday, they have the proof which cannot be screwed to be said to be fabricated and so they have no problem with the thread continuing.

She told me I could show that picture to whoever I wanted. I did not specifically ask if I could post it on Literotica.com in a thread called Public Humiliation For Your Enjoyment, but I had her permission nonetheless.

Like I said. He didn't have her expressed permission to post her picture on Lit. If he's since obtained it, that's his business. As it was done, however, it was a violation of Lit's rules. That's why it was deleted.

And it's not so much that I don't think Mods shouldn't support each other, but that if a Mod does something that is a clear violation of the rules we all live by, the other mod should be the first one who steps in and either deletes the thread or clarifies precisely why it's not a violation of the rules.

Again, it's not a board I frequent a lot but I think that's a pretty basic concept that applies to any Bulletin Board, whether the topic of discussion is cookie recipes or whips and chains.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Again, it's not a board I frequent a lot but I think that's a pretty basic concept that applies to any Bulletin Board, whether the topic of discussion is cookie recipes or whips and chains.

Cookie recipes? What kinda cookie recipes?

 

[Weevil]

Cookie recipes? What kinda cookie recipes?

I don't know, but I made a carrot cake the other day, I tell you, you'd think you'd died and gone to heaven. Or hell. Or whichever one is more desireable on the BDSM boards.

 

[Kajira Callista]

I don't know, but I made a carrot cake the other day, I tell you, you'd think you'd died and gone to heaven. Or hell. Or whichever one is more desireable on the BDSM boards.

Cream cheese frosting?

 

[Weevil]

Cream cheese frosting?

Yup. I done made it myself and everything.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Yup. I done made it myself and everything.

any left? can i come over?