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What makes str8 men bi/curious in their advanced years?
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Trying to understand this whole thing, I am 76 and divorced. I have always loved women and have never had anything sexual with a man. When I go out to a function or lets say a mall, my eyes devour women, not men. I don't look at a man and think wow would I like to do things with him, but after a few days of being horney I instinctively go to a gay website like Man Hub or Porn Hub and look at movies in the gay categories . Its get me turned on but after a climax I am back to my old love women thing. When I am totally turned on, if a man friend came by and wanted to do things, I think I may let him, but not totally sure, if I did and when its over then I would most likely be upset that I did . After climaxing , days pass until I get horney again and in that time frame men do not enter my mind sexually.
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Same here.
But I keep coming back to cock. Sometimes after weeks of not thinking about them.
But I keep coming back to cock. Sometimes after weeks of not thinking about them.
Women to men to women...
I'm in my 50's and I've been the same way all my life.
I've always been attracted to women more than anything else.
BUT... I always had a strange desire to be sexual with men.
When my first wife and I were married, we started out watching porn videos with her best friend and her best friend's husband. We were all in our early 20's and were constantly horny. I lusted after my wife's best friend like you wouldn't believe!
That woman had a pair of big, sensuous breasts that drove me insane and she would parade around in short shorts and tank tops with no bra... I was constantly erect because of her.
Anyway, our porn video viewing turned into everyone masturbating while watching the videos. After a while, we would get together, strip naked and get comfortable and watch each other masturbate more than we watched the videos. Eventually, we moved to having sex as couples and then started some light swapping, then moved to full swapping. The girls would have sex together at times while us men would watch. One night, my wife's best friend begged me to suck her husband's cock. I hesitated, even though I really wanted to do it. So, she said that if I sucked his cock, she would let me fuck her ass. I agreed to that in a heartbeat!
So, I sucked him while his wife and my wife watched, and I was surprised when he came in my mouth and I swallowed it before I realized what I had done. Well, our "full swapping" moved to ultimate swapping with me and him doing 69's for the girls and sucking/fucking each other. I had to admit to myself I was bisexual whether I wanted to be or not. At times, after he and I had sex together, my desire to be with him just dwindled to nothing. But, we would all get horny in no time and the desire would just come flooding back.
Today, all these years later, I still get very horny for man to man sex. When I masturbate while thinking about it and go all the way to cumming, my desire for man to man sex dwindles but my desire for women doesn't.
So, don't feel strange! I'm the same in many ways.
I'm in my 50's and I've been the same way all my life.
I've always been attracted to women more than anything else.
BUT... I always had a strange desire to be sexual with men.
When my first wife and I were married, we started out watching porn videos with her best friend and her best friend's husband. We were all in our early 20's and were constantly horny. I lusted after my wife's best friend like you wouldn't believe!
That woman had a pair of big, sensuous breasts that drove me insane and she would parade around in short shorts and tank tops with no bra... I was constantly erect because of her.
Anyway, our porn video viewing turned into everyone masturbating while watching the videos. After a while, we would get together, strip naked and get comfortable and watch each other masturbate more than we watched the videos. Eventually, we moved to having sex as couples and then started some light swapping, then moved to full swapping. The girls would have sex together at times while us men would watch. One night, my wife's best friend begged me to suck her husband's cock. I hesitated, even though I really wanted to do it. So, she said that if I sucked his cock, she would let me fuck her ass. I agreed to that in a heartbeat!
So, I sucked him while his wife and my wife watched, and I was surprised when he came in my mouth and I swallowed it before I realized what I had done. Well, our "full swapping" moved to ultimate swapping with me and him doing 69's for the girls and sucking/fucking each other. I had to admit to myself I was bisexual whether I wanted to be or not. At times, after he and I had sex together, my desire to be with him just dwindled to nothing. But, we would all get horny in no time and the desire would just come flooding back.
Today, all these years later, I still get very horny for man to man sex. When I masturbate while thinking about it and go all the way to cumming, my desire for man to man sex dwindles but my desire for women doesn't.
So, don't feel strange! I'm the same in many ways.
That must have been some really good times! Thanks for sharing!
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As this focus is solely on MEN, I will stay with that.
I honestly think it has to do with peer pressure. Once you pass 18, entering adulthood, you may have some questions about your sexual identity.
With the distinct possibility of your parents wanting you to be STRAIGHT, certainly you can aim for that. But if you are bullied in college or even at work about your sexual identity through hazing or sexual harassment, it can start to fray the edges of your sensibilities after awhile.
A simple answer to this was once quoted by the very well-known comedienne, "Woody Allen." He said:
"Bisexuality automatically doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."
While he is being funny here, there may be a drop of truth to what he says. Age can definitely impact a relationship if it superficial and based solely upon looks on how hot she is or how much a stud that he is.
Everyone gets old. If you are in your 50s, you may not look as good as you did when you were 20.
If the guy remains straight, with little success in wooing the girls, they may branch out to bisexuality. But I will tell you, I DON'T think this is something that is entirely by choice.
People are born into different worlds. And I believe both upbringing and peer pressure can and will cause men to turn to bisexuality in their Autumn Years.
Memory and history I believe play an important part in our sexual fetishes and schisms.
A man may very well become bisexual when he gets older because he is running out of straight options in dating or having sex.
I will tell you though some people treat bisexuality as a statement from the Bible, New American Standard:
"So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth."
While you may believe you are opening your options with bisexuality, but it also does show your would-be partner that you bend both ways AND have a greater chance of receiving a sexual disease with a larger community.
Straight men are a strong community.
Gay men and women are also a strong community.
Bisexual ? There is a chance both straight women and gay men do not want to associate with you because of the seeming desperation.
Give it some thought ...
Bisexual women, however ? That is a different chapter entirely.
I honestly think it has to do with peer pressure. Once you pass 18, entering adulthood, you may have some questions about your sexual identity.
With the distinct possibility of your parents wanting you to be STRAIGHT, certainly you can aim for that. But if you are bullied in college or even at work about your sexual identity through hazing or sexual harassment, it can start to fray the edges of your sensibilities after awhile.
A simple answer to this was once quoted by the very well-known comedienne, "Woody Allen." He said:
"Bisexuality automatically doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."
While he is being funny here, there may be a drop of truth to what he says. Age can definitely impact a relationship if it superficial and based solely upon looks on how hot she is or how much a stud that he is.
Everyone gets old. If you are in your 50s, you may not look as good as you did when you were 20.
If the guy remains straight, with little success in wooing the girls, they may branch out to bisexuality. But I will tell you, I DON'T think this is something that is entirely by choice.
People are born into different worlds. And I believe both upbringing and peer pressure can and will cause men to turn to bisexuality in their Autumn Years.
Memory and history I believe play an important part in our sexual fetishes and schisms.
A man may very well become bisexual when he gets older because he is running out of straight options in dating or having sex.
I will tell you though some people treat bisexuality as a statement from the Bible, New American Standard:
"So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth."
While you may believe you are opening your options with bisexuality, but it also does show your would-be partner that you bend both ways AND have a greater chance of receiving a sexual disease with a larger community.
Straight men are a strong community.
Gay men and women are also a strong community.
Bisexual ? There is a chance both straight women and gay men do not want to associate with you because of the seeming desperation.
Give it some thought ...
Bisexual women, however ? That is a different chapter entirely.
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Wow! Those must have been some GREAT times!!! I'm jealous!
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Me too
As I read it, I thought, "I'd love to do all that".
As I read it, I thought, "I'd love to do all that".
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For me it's the lack of oral sex in my life. My wife doesn't go down on me, so naturally I imagine sucking my own cock, which I can't, and that leads to me getting aroused at the thought of sucking of someone else's cock.
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That's sad
Have you ever told her you'd like her to? Has she never done it, or used to and doesn't now?
Have you ever told her you'd like her to? Has she never done it, or used to and doesn't now?
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It is sad. It makes me feel bad.
Yes she used to do it, but not long after we started having kids she stopped. I've brought it up a few times, but have never told her how much it hurts me that she no longer does it. It makes me feel rejected, and that going down on me to pleasure me is not worth it to her.
Because she stopped going down on me she even tried to stop me from going down on her because it was making her feel guilty. I told her that I love doing it, and love pleasuring her with my mouth, I will NEVER stop going down on her.
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I think
you need to have a deep and meaningful. If you love each other, you can talk about anything. Anything.
you need to have a deep and meaningful. If you love each other, you can talk about anything. Anything.
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You're right. Sex is a very difficult topic for us. I love talking about it. I would discuss anything all day, she's a lot more reserved. But, you're right, we do need to talk about it.
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I think maybe they don't become bi/curious in later years. I think it was always there and they were just afraid to discuss it or admit it. That is the way it was with my husband. He never wanted to admit to himself that he wanted oral sex with men (and more). Men are taught growing up to be manly and be macho and get beautiful women and it is hard for some to admit they also are attracted to or want to have sex with men.
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There's a fair amount
of truth in that, Diane.
of truth in that, Diane.
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I also think we all at some level have an interest in same sex exploration. It is a hard thing to admit or say out loud. Just like a lot of us are curious about bdsm or D/s but most would rather keep it as a fantasy that is unspoken.
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And we shouldn't
We only get one crack at this thing called Life.
We only get one crack at this thing called Life.
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Just a thought
Men produce both testosterone and estrogen in their bodies. High testosterone makes us hard and horny when we are young. But as we age our T levels begin to lower and maybe as this happens the estrogen in us can begin to take over leading to things like lack of normal male sex drive, weight gain, man boobs? etc.
Perhaps some men even start have sexual desires more like those that women feel. Attraction to other men? The desire to feel sex internally rather than externally. Whats else? Just a thought.
Men produce both testosterone and estrogen in their bodies. High testosterone makes us hard and horny when we are young. But as we age our T levels begin to lower and maybe as this happens the estrogen in us can begin to take over leading to things like lack of normal male sex drive, weight gain, man boobs? etc.
Perhaps some men even start have sexual desires more like those that women feel. Attraction to other men? The desire to feel sex internally rather than externally. Whats else? Just a thought.
I have always been attracted to women, but when I'm alone, I think about being with men.
At first, my fantasies were that I would get tricked into having sex with them, but anal sex only, and then under duress. I could not admit to myself that I wanted a man to dominate me. Those fantasies never included oral sex. They were along the lines of being tied up or restrained in some way and the man was patient and got me to take his cock in my ass. After a gentle fucking I would cum and realize that I liked it.
After many years alone, I realize that I would welcome a man who wanted me for my ass and wanted to fuck me, and that I wanted him to fuck me. That hasn't happened yet, but then I haven't found the right guy yet.
My current fantasy is that I meed a guy who takes charge and offers his cock to me. I learn to deep throat it and after a while, he tells me it is time for me to give up my ass to him. I ask him how he wants me and let him position me which ever way he wants as I take his cock in my ass.
I really want to get fucked and I'm okay with that awareness.
At first, my fantasies were that I would get tricked into having sex with them, but anal sex only, and then under duress. I could not admit to myself that I wanted a man to dominate me. Those fantasies never included oral sex. They were along the lines of being tied up or restrained in some way and the man was patient and got me to take his cock in my ass. After a gentle fucking I would cum and realize that I liked it.
After many years alone, I realize that I would welcome a man who wanted me for my ass and wanted to fuck me, and that I wanted him to fuck me. That hasn't happened yet, but then I haven't found the right guy yet.
My current fantasy is that I meed a guy who takes charge and offers his cock to me. I learn to deep throat it and after a while, he tells me it is time for me to give up my ass to him. I ask him how he wants me and let him position me which ever way he wants as I take his cock in my ass.
I really want to get fucked and I'm okay with that awareness.
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Me too. It seemed like it all (desire for m+f) developed together.
More to the point of the question, I think that when I was younger, there was a lot wrapped up in being dominated by another man. My self image, my identity was invested in not being dominated by another man.
At some point, I realized that I was who I was and submitting to another man to be fucked did not change who I was. I could submit but the submission wasn't permanent. I still had my identity, my independence no matter if I submitted to a man and let him fuck me.
That idea, that my identity was not consumed by sexual positions, was liberating. I used to think that sucking a man's cock was the most diminishing thing. Years of calling people cocksucker as a dominance thing had to be undone. Giving a man pleasure with my mouth is no longer a mental hurdle for me.
Knowing that he needs me for his pleasure is sort of a power ownership of its own. If a man were to fuck me, he may be in a dominant position, but he needs me for his pleasure.
So, I guess that as I got older, I came to terms with some of those conflicts about identity and self. I'm no longer worried that my wanting to have sex with a man marks me as a lesser person. Knowing that there are men out there who want to be with a man like me is also nice.
At some point, I realized that I was who I was and submitting to another man to be fucked did not change who I was. I could submit but the submission wasn't permanent. I still had my identity, my independence no matter if I submitted to a man and let him fuck me.
That idea, that my identity was not consumed by sexual positions, was liberating. I used to think that sucking a man's cock was the most diminishing thing. Years of calling people cocksucker as a dominance thing had to be undone. Giving a man pleasure with my mouth is no longer a mental hurdle for me.
Knowing that he needs me for his pleasure is sort of a power ownership of its own. If a man were to fuck me, he may be in a dominant position, but he needs me for his pleasure.
So, I guess that as I got older, I came to terms with some of those conflicts about identity and self. I'm no longer worried that my wanting to have sex with a man marks me as a lesser person. Knowing that there are men out there who want to be with a man like me is also nice.
