What do you think about human rights and the Jewish question.....

[miles]

If we left Israel to its own devices they'd nuke the entire middle east with same fervor as their Arab neighbors.

Now if I didn't know better I'd say those were the words of shadowsource.

 

[CelestialBody]

Nah

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

LOL @ Miles. Where is ol' tablecloth-head these days, anyway?

 

[CelestialBody]

OC

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

And what do you think I mean, CB? A crass anti-eastern slur? haha.

I was referring to Shadowsource's story about owning and wearing the traditional Palestinian headgear (forget what they're called) in New York in the 1970's because it was supposedly in vogue at the time.

 

[miles]

Ollie

He's a lot closer than you think.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Cheyenne]

And what do you think I mean, CB? A crass anti-eastern slur? haha.

I was referring to Shadowsource's story about owning and wearing the traditional Palestinian headgear (forget what they're called) in New York in the 1970's because it was supposedly in vogue at the time.

I'm sure he just picked it up to show off to that girlfriend he had who was from Israel. Remember that story? She left him for supporting Palestinians, as I recall.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

That's a good question, CB

Ciprofloxacin and Levofloxacin are both in the same class of fluoroquinolone antibiotics, and both are recommended for use in treating anthrax by infectious disease authorities. The reason you hear Cipro constantly mentioned in regard to treating anthrax is that it's the only specifically approved FDA treatment for anthrax, but in this case lack of FDA approval for other drugs is misleading. Penicillin and the tetracyclines were effectively used against anthrax long before there were fluoroquinolone antibiotics. Erythromycin and chloramphenicol can also be used. Doctors frequently use antibiotics that have been shown to be effective against particular organisms even if they haven't been approved by the medical bureaucratic authorities for those specific infections. The reasons certain drugs get FDA approval for certain indications and others don't is as often political as it is clinical.

So to bring this rambling to a point, Cipro, Leavaquin, penicillin, and doxycycline will all serve you well for anthrax. Cipro and leavaquin will work against virtually all strains while there are supposedly some strains resistant to the older antibiotics. From what I've heard though, none of the anthrax collected from the recent victims and mail samples have been resistant to any standard antibiotics, so there's no reason to horde cipro. If you start to get flu-like symptoms and are worried about anthrax, go get some doxycycline or Penicillin G from your doctor.

Miles - hmmmmm...

 

[Marxist]

Re: Nah

shadowsource gets his sources straight. If you're going to claim something is from the AP you damn well better make sure it is. There's a reason I don't like USA Today, there's a reason they give it to third and fourth graders to dissect. Before you even say a word, I did that way back when. It's shitty reporting. The AP's article is right here:

Associated Press- The Wire

Huh?

At the bottom of the USA Today story it says:

Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Does that mean something other than what I think it says? I agree USA Today is simple. I went there so Miles could follow along.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[SexyChele]

Marxist

I make no apologies for the Moussad, I simply state their policy. I never stated whether I actually agree with it or not.

You say you are not an apologist for Palestine. That's fine. But your words make you sound very much anti-Israel, and I'm still trying to figure out if that is true.

As to the US telling Israel what to do, it is ironic that they have stepped up their "you should do this" when we are trying desperately to do the impossible - unite the Arab nations against bin Laden. Now that the US is dependent on the Arab backing it, the US suddenly is trying to tell Israel to "cool it". Fact is, Israel doesn't listen, and the Israelis are getting more and more disgruntled at the US - first not involving them in the coalition, then not declaring HAMAS and Islamic Jihad as recognized terrorist organizations, and now trying to tell them what to do.

Also, Israel made it abundantly clear that it would go into the West Bank until the perpetrators of the assasination of Minister Ze'evi are brought to justice. It is also of interest that a faction within Palestine are using the Holy Sites in Bethlehem to fire upon the IDF, knowing that Israel has the stance that they will not, under any circumstances fire upon any Holy Site. Yet, still the gunman are firing from the Church of the Nativity. Pretty honorable, no?

As for the Israelis being "muzzled" during the Gulf War?? Excuse me???? Check your history. Israel was ready to join forces with the US, but they were asked not to join so as not to foster bad will among the Arab nations. Also, in case you have forgotten, Iraq was lobbing SCUD missles at Israel, all the while Israel was honoring its promise to the US not to engage. Do you realize how much courage that takes? Plus, there was a real threat of chemical warfare - and it was believed that that would be used against the Israelis. How would you feel having to go down, obtain a gas mask for you and your family, know where your local shelter is, and then run to it whenever the sirens went off? This happened. And still Israel did not engage - again honoring her promise to the US. And you say she was "muzzled"? Hmmm

As far as Bush understanding anymore than any other president has is debatable. Bush is trying desperately to win over the Arab nations in his quest to find bin Laden. Just as his father did 10 years ago, he will pander to them to get what the US wants. He has already done that, and will continue to do so until the US either kills bin Laden or manages to take him alive.

Then all shall go back to normal.

 

[Weevil]

Hey, you know what I used to think Marxism was? Dicriminating against people who got bad marks in university.

I also wanted to be Winnie the Pooh when I grew up.

I'm just a little black raincloud
Hovering over the honey tree
Oh I'm just a little black raincloud
Pay no attention to little me
Everyone knows that a Rain Cloud
Never eats honey no not a nip
I'm just floating around
Over the ground
wondering where I will drip

 

[Marxist]

USA Today, The New York Times, and other users of news do not have the right to change AP stories as they see fit. You see the copyright at the bottom? Part of it says rewritten. Besides the question of sources what about the general content?

 

[SexyChele]

Celestial Body

Thanks so much for the links to the AP article. I appreciate it.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Marxist]

Dear Celestial,

You are highly reactionary and I mean you no harm. The two stories are both on USA Todays website. They are two stories both about similar issues but probably by different AP writers. I'll give you the link to both on the USA Today website. Please calm down and swallow the Prozac as prescribed.

Story one, your "AP" story

story two "USA today" story

Now be a big Celestial and say you were wrong.

 

[CelestialBody]

Nope.

 

[Marxist]

Re: Nope.

Show me the link on the AP's site. I'm browsing and can't seem to find it. I'm not fond of USA Today. I've already mentioned why.

USA Today is simplistic granted, but so is the AP. If you want in depth go to The New York Times although they do have a bias. Believe me, I've worked in media and you can't alter a written AP story to suit your needs without being sued. That whole copyright thing. Any alteration is the AP's. You will admit that they are two different stories correct? Thank you, I knew you could do it.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Marxist]

I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, I just knew you couldn't stand to be wrong. Me neither. I'm digging for the link as we speak.

 

[miles]

CelestialBody

Don't lose that av.

 

[Marxist]

Re: Celestial Body

Thanks so much for the links to the AP article. I appreciate it.

IT'S A DIFFERENT FUCKING ARTICLE, IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, IT'S LINKED INSIDE THE USA TODAY ARTICLE I POSTED!

*strained voice, must calm down*

 

[Problem Child]

Chel,


And tell me what exactly is the difference between a Mossad hit team and HAMAS terrorists.

Mossad usually hits what they shoot at.

 

[CelestialBody]

Re: Re: Celestial Body