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BluesDriver66 said:
Who brought the news media into the conversation? Not me. Continuous talk of goal post moving is in fact the goal post moving.

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Day drinking can be pretty awesome but has consequences, usually of stupid.

BluesDriver66 said:
What goal post move? You're the one who deflected the issue to the news media by whining about Truthout. I was clearly focused on Biden's predictable and reliable capitulation to Republicans.

You just can't seem to face the fact that Biden is weak, ineffective, bought and paid for corporate stooge for the insurance industry.

Feel free to respond now with more deflections, baseless and hysterical accusations of my identity, and your poor attempts at humor.

Former Vice President Joe Biden is winning the race for donations from Big Pharma but experts and industry stakeholders doubt his plans will successfully lower drug prices or address underlying issues in the industry.

The pharmaceuticals and health products industry has donated more than $5.9 million to Biden's presidential campaign, according to OpenSecrets.org, a site run by the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political donations.


https://www.newsweek.com/big-pharma-joe-biden-fix-drug-pricing-1534809

Former Vice President Joe Biden said during a 1974 discussion on campaign finance that he tried to "prostitute" himself to big donors during his first run for U.S. Senate but failed to get their money because he was too young.

Biden argued the political system was inherently corrupt because it forced candidates to go to the "people who have money," and "they always want something."

https://freebeacon.com/politics/bid...myself-to-big-donors-during-first-senate-run/
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Lay low for awhile, son. You’re embarrassing yourself.
 
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jomar said:
Day drinking can be pretty awesome but has consequences, usually of stupid.



Lay low for awhile, son. You’re embarrassing yourself.
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Your attempts at humor are lame. And still no comments on how Biden is a bought and paid for corporate stooge of the insurance industry. How his career on built on capitulating to Republicans and corporate interests?

You neo-liberals are just as delusional and gullible as Trumpers who believe Mexico will pay for the wall. Biden has never had any intention to deliver for the American people on health care. Any and everything worth a shit was stripped from the infrastructure bill and Biden didn't lift a finger to fight for it.
 
BluesDriver66 said:
Your attempts at humor are lame. And still no comments on how Biden is a bought and paid for corporate stooge of the insurance industry. How his career on built on capitulating to Republicans and corporate interests?

You neo-liberals are just as delusional and gullible as Trumpers who believe Mexico will pay for the wall. Biden has never had any intention to deliver for the American people on health care. Any and everything worth a shit was stripped from the infrastructure bill and Biden didn't lift a finger to fight for it.
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You spew, but don’t debate. That’s fine, just don’t expect respect, but do expect ridicule.
 
BluesDriver66 said:
You could say the same about Bill Cosby and Charles Manson. That's a pretty low bar.
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For the benefit of the board Trumpettes, I'm saying it about Donald Trump (and most of the board Trumpettes, for that matter).

I can see why you'd want to deflect from that.
 
KeithD said:
For the benefit of the board Trumpettes, I'm saying it about Donald Trump (and most of the board Trumpettes, for that matter).

I can see why you'd want to deflect from that.
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Making Trumpers look stupid is not an accomplishment. It's like stealing candy from a baby. A really stupid one.
 
jomar said:
You spew, but don’t debate. That’s fine, just don’t expect respect, but do expect ridicule.
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Still no opinion on Biden's surrender monkey response to any and all Republican obstructionism? How about how he takes millions upon millions of dollars from the big pharma and insurance industry and then surprise, surprise! Drug pricing is stripped from the infrastructure bill.

Biden is weak, ineffective, and will never deliver for the American people. He is the exact reason circus clowns like Trump get elected in the first place.
 
BluesDriver66 said:
Still no opinion on Biden's surrender monkey response to any and all Republican obstructionism? How about how he takes millions upon millions of dollars from the big pharma and insurance industry and then surprise, surprise! Drug pricing is stripped from the infrastructure bill.

Biden is weak, ineffective, and will never deliver for the American people. He is the exact reason circus clowns like Trump get elected in the first place.
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What more could any Dem POTUS have done in his position, with the Senate split 50-50 and two Dem senators recalcitrant?
 
Biden's doing just fine with the circumstances he's been put in. He's already done better than Trump and most other recent presidents in just the time he's been in office. He framed getting Covid under control (and it would be if that wasn't being resisted), has gotten an infrastructure bill passed and a "build better" one framed and being worked in Congress--all things the Trump and the Republicans were unable to even start doing in Trump's four-year term. And, although it was messy--again mostly because of the hand he'd been dealt there--he got the United States military out of Afghanistan--something several predecessors were unable to do.

The Republicans and the Russian bots just are running a Swiftboating campaign against him. All you need do to understand that we're in a better position now than we were a year ago is just not to sucker into the Swiftboating campaign.

And yada, yada, yada to the board Trumpettes. Stick it in your ears.
 
pecksniff said:
What more could any Dem POTUS have done in his position, with the Senate split 50-50 and two Dem senators recalcitrant?
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Absolutely nothing. Expecting any Democrat POTUS to actually fight for what is right is far beyond their skill set and moral character. Letting Republicans steal elections, Supreme Court seats, start illegal wars, and outsmart them at every turn is what they do.

A con man, racist, moron, game show host with no political experience gets elected to the highest office on their watch. Expecting them triumph over the political genius of Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and Joe Manchin is just too much to ask.
 
Already having done better than Trump is a subjective valuation, at best...



It really does border more on wishful thinking.
 
Again, patiently, let me point out, Trump wasn't elected based upon a robust economy.



Quite the opposite.
 
BluesDriver66 said:
Who brought the news media into the conversation? Not me. Continuous talk of goal post moving is in fact the goal post moving.
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You did when you cited truthout as your proof.

I came here to talk about Joe Biden being Joe Manchin's little bitch and a bought and paid for corporate stooge for the insurance industry. It's the neo-liberals that keep derailing the conversation to something else.
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Not really. Just because others aren’t singing your song doesn’t mean derailing.

BluesDriver66 said:
Still no opinion on Biden's surrender monkey response to any and all Republican obstructionism? How about how he takes millions upon millions of dollars from the big pharma and insurance industry and then surprise, surprise! Drug pricing is stripped from the infrastructure bill.

Biden is weak, ineffective, and will never deliver for the American people. He is the exact reason circus clowns like Trump get elected in the first place.
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You don’t want debate, you just want to pontificate.

BluesDriver66 said:
Absolutely nothing. Expecting any Democrat POTUS to actually fight for what is right is far beyond their skill set and moral character. Letting Republicans steal elections, Supreme Court seats, start illegal wars, and outsmart them at every turn is what they do.

A con man, racist, moron, game show host with no political experience gets elected to the highest office on their watch. Expecting them triumph over the political genius of Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and Joe Manchin is just too much to ask.
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See what I mean? :)

And political genius of Ted Cruz? :D All told, you’re teetering on political performance art trolling.
 
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New W.VA poll: Joe Manchin has 60% approval compared to Biden’s 32%.

78% support Manchin's efforts to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill.

Nearly 74% said Manchin should oppose the president’s Build Back Better plan.
 
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