Tyro

[Euphonic]

Just a note to say hello. I'm really enjoying the stories posted on literotica. However, the formula where the handsome Dom experiencing ennui finds his ideal sub is a college girl, good looking, intelligent, employed part time who has never ridden an erection, well, that story line is predictable and enervating.
Just saying. My opinion only.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Bumping the 'right' thread

I don't get the virginity fetish anyway. But I guess a lot of guys-- and women-- have it. I know one woman who cannot write a non-virginal heroine to save her life. She hasn't been a virgin for more years than she will admit to, and enjoys her own sex life very much. But her characters always have to make a big-ass fuss about being deflowered.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Bumping the 'right' thread

I don't get the virginity fetish anyway. But I guess a lot of guys-- and women-- have it. I know one woman who cannot write a non-virginal heroine to save her life. She hasn't been a virgin for more years than she will admit to, and enjoys her own sex life very much. But her characters always have to make a big-ass fuss about being deflowered.

I think I have one or three virginal characters... But they all came from before I lost the V-card myself. We write what we know.

So what does that say about Stephanie Meyer, and to a certain extent, EL James?

What does it say about Clive Barker?

 

[sr71plt]

We don't all write just what we know all of the time. If we did there'd be little/no science fiction and fantasy and (hopefully) not much in the way of murder mysteries. In many cases we're writing what we can imagine or research.

 

[Stella_Omega]

We don't all write just what we know all of the time. If we did there'd be little/no science fiction and fantasy and (hopefully) not much in the way of murder mysteries. In many cases we're writing what we can imagine or research.

And there certainly wouldn't be many "handsome Doms experiencing ennui" either... Or virginal, employed college girls

 

[Handley_Page]

And there certainly wouldn't be many "handsome Doms experiencing ennui" either... Or virginal, employed college girls

And I suspect there are fewer college girls of that nature than one might imagine.

 

[NaokoSmith]

I wrote a story about a virginal guy helpfully deflowered by an honourable slut. I was not of course writing all about things I know .

 

[Safe_Bet]

Bumping the 'right' thread

I don't get the virginity fetish anyway. But I guess a lot of guys-- and women-- have it. I know one woman who cannot write a non-virginal heroine to save her life. She hasn't been a virgin for more years than she will admit to, and enjoys her own sex life very much. But her characters always have to make a big-ass fuss about being deflowered.

Oh, I "GET" it. I just don't think much of people who have it.

Its a fetish held by predominately men (with an old testament / biblical / Neanderthal??? mind set) who think women are "things" vs. actual people. They are the "women are life support for pussies" guys who show their disrespect for women and their greed by wanting to be the first and only person who "possesses" SOMETHING.

If they gave a rat's ass about women as people then virginity would be considered more of an inconvenience rather than being something "prized".

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Oh, I "GET"
If they gave a rat's ass about women as people then virginity would be considered more of an inconvenience rather than being something "prized".

Holy shit, we agree on something!



(this is of course excluding fathers. I think that it doesn't matter how advanced we get, daddies will always be terrified of their little girls having encounters with big bad penis)

 

[NaokoSmith]

Holy shit, we agree on something!



(this is of course excluding fathers. I think that it doesn't matter how advanced we get, daddies will always be terrified of their little girls having encounters with big bad penis)

Enough to encourage them to go with other girls instead?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Holy shit, we agree on something!

That's because you are slowly coming over to the dark side... sista!

(and remember... we have brownies (and other delicious things to eat) over here. )

(this is of course excluding fathers. I think that it doesn't matter how advanced we get, daddies will always be terrified of their little girls having encounters with big bad penis)

Actually, no... I don't exclude fathers (not to be confused with "Daddies" (especially dudes that LIKE to be called "daddy") who are usually creepy fucks).

In the old days daughters were more valuable "possessions" if their virginity was intact. The fathers of that time basically sold their daughters to the highest bidder (dowry, anyone?).

I think this mindset has been carried forward into today. It might not be as overt, but I think the "don't touch my daughter till you marry her" kind of thinking is just another version of "possession".

 

[Cruel2BKind]

I think my dad would rather me be a lesbian with a girlfriend than in my current state (single, and kinda frumpy)

It's getting to the point where it's kind of insulting. I was home for spring break and out of the blue, he took me to a salon to get my hair done. I've NEVER done anything like that before. I got my hair dyed, and the whole time I just felt uncomfortable, because I was thinking.

"Yeah, this is kinda nice... but it costs SIXTY MOTHERFUCKING DOLLARS and I could be spending SIX MOTHERFUCKING DOLLARS on a bottle of dye instead..."

When we walked out he basically said that he didn't think that I was taking very good care of myself.

Thanks dad. Thank you so much.

 

[NaokoSmith]

In the old days daughters were more valuable "possessions" if their virginity was intact. The fathers of that time basically sold their daughters to the highest bidder (dowry, anyone?).
.

Brideprice.
Dowry is stuff that the daughter's family give to take with her to make her more appealing.
Brideprice is what you get if you have a daughter you are passing over to another man's family. E.g., ten head of cattle and a goat. This does not mean women are equivalent to cows, except in the sense that in these kind of communities, cows are usually incredibly precious so ten cows is an indication of how dear the daughters are to the family.

As Monique Wittig puts it of women, "vile and precious merchandise".

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Oh, I "GET" it. I just don't think much of people who have it.

Its a fetish held by predominately men (with an old testament / biblical / Neanderthal??? mind set) who think women are "things" vs. actual people. They are the "women are life support for pussies" guys who show their disrespect for women and their greed by wanting to be the first and only person who "possesses" SOMETHING.

If they gave a rat's ass about women as people then virginity would be considered more of an inconvenience rather than being something "prized".

Those of us who matter see women as useful things. Nothing says SISSY like a guy who treats a female as an equal or invests much hope for her. That said, there are a few special exceptions.

 

[NaokoSmith]

Those of us who matter see women as useful things. Nothing says SISSY like a guy who treats a female as an equal or invests much hope for her. That said, there are a few special exceptions.

Oh gosh no! Every manly man knows that women are way superior. I mean, this may be a man's world but it would be nothing without a woman to care.

 

[PennLady]

I think my dad would rather me be a lesbian with a girlfriend than in my current state (single, and kinda frumpy)

It's getting to the point where it's kind of insulting. I was home for spring break and out of the blue, he took me to a salon to get my hair done. I've NEVER done anything like that before. I got my hair dyed, and the whole time I just felt uncomfortable, because I was thinking.

"Yeah, this is kinda nice... but it costs SIXTY MOTHERFUCKING DOLLARS and I could be spending SIX MOTHERFUCKING DOLLARS on a bottle of dye instead..."

When we walked out he basically said that he didn't think that I was taking very good care of myself.

Thanks dad. Thank you so much.

Having done this only about twice in my life, I can say that sixty dollars for getting your hair done -- cut, dyed, styled -- is really not that much. Many salons charge way more. Like twice.

Any reason you couldn't say thanks, dad, but no thanks?

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Having done this only about twice in my life, I can say that sixty dollars for getting your hair done -- cut, dyed, styled -- is really not that much. Many salons charge way more. Like twice.

Any reason you couldn't say thanks, dad, but no thanks?

Didn't know he was offering until we walked into the salon. I was too surprised to say no.d

 

[NaokoSmith]

Didn't know he was offering until we walked into the salon. I was too surprised to say no.d

Dads sort of sneak things up on you. Mine brought home two Cambodian chicks for Christmas once. I mean, you have to admire his chutzpah! and the neighbours certainly did but my mum was a bit cross.

PS I do so hope you've forgiven me Cruel2BKind, for misascribing your splendid thread on formulaic writing. Although I don't deserve it.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Didn't know he was offering until we walked into the salon. I was too surprised to say no.d

Return the favor.

Next time you're home, drop his ass off in front of one of those "metrosexual" hair salons and tell him that you'll pick him and his "highlights" up in an hour.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Dads sort of sneak things up on you. Mine brought home two Cambodian chicks for Christmas once. I mean, you have to admire his chutzpah! and the neighbours certainly did but my mum was a bit cross.

PS I do so hope you've forgiven me Cruel2BKind, for misascribing your splendid thread on formulaic writing. Although I don't deserve it.

No worries... It's fun to see you talk with JBJ. I don't think he quite knows what to do with you.

Return the favor.

Next time you're home, drop his ass off in front of one of those "metrosexual" hair salons and tell him that you'll pick him and his "highlights" up in an hour.

He doesn't have any hair.

 

[Safe_Bet]

He doesn't have any hair.

Even BETTER!!!!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Oh gosh no! Every manly man knows that women are way superior. I mean, this may be a man's world but it would be nothing without a woman to care.

Yes, women are superior but not in the sense you think. Men should never treat them as equals at any rate, mostly because females think theyre superior, and any male who thinks he can rise to the level is cast in the abyss as an ass and real simpleton. If you wanna impress a female act like what she knows you are, a clod who wants a full stomach and empty balls. She may think youre a stallion but it wont stop her from using you as a draught horse to pull her plow and carry her burdens.

So the smart dum-guy plays to her prejudices. And that makes him smarter than her, in a limited way. He'll fuck her sister, and she'll fault the sister.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

No worries... It's fun to see you talk with JBJ. I don't think he quite knows what to do with you.



He doesn't have any hair.

Theres only one thing to do with Naoko in JimWorld, fuck er brains out then discuss the minor British Poets. It never crosses my mind that she may have greater utility, and if she does I cant really go there, can I? So I'll stick with what I do best.

 

[CWatson]

And I suspect there are fewer college girls of that nature than one might imagine.

Of which nature? Virginal? Or employed?

 

[Stella_Omega]

... It might not be as overt, but I think the "don't touch my daughter till you marry her" kind of thinking is just another version of "possession".

Yep. I tell guys to stop thinking of their daughters as little dollies and start thinking of them as separate human type people. Guys feeling the need to protect their daughters against the men they choose to associate with-- another aspect of rape culture.