Trust

MotorCitySam

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I am not an expert on BDSM, or on how to run a message board, but I will say my piece, and you may judge it for what you believe it is worth.
Every step of the way in my learning about BDSM, I have read, over and over, and have been told by those I have been privileged to meet, that trust is the foundation of it all. Without trust there is no BDSM, only a sham in it's stead.
I came here to learn how to express myself in word, actions and deeds with the woman I love in a way that will fulfill us both. Nothing in my life could take on more importance to me. And I feel I have recieved good advice, and it has been a blessing to us both.
But if I did not feel those giving that advice were to be trusted, than I would be as foolish as anyone else who put themselves, physically or emotionally, into unreliable hands.
I have shown faith in what I have been told here, by Risia, by cymbidia, and many others, as to how best make this most important covenant between my love and myself succeed. If I lost that trust, I would be a fool to remain here.
And so I say to you all, whether you have had personal animosities in the past or not, that you need to either accept the trustworthiness of the moderators, and the many good people here, or you ought to move on and seek advice and counsel elsewhere. To remain here, without trust, can serve no purpose, either to yourselves or to others.
That's all I have to say on this subject. My best to you all.
 
You know, he doesn't say a lot, but when he does, he makes it count.
Well said, honey.
 
CarolineOh said:
You know, he doesn't say a lot, but when he does, he makes it count.
Well said, honey.


Caroline, the more we see of Sam, the more convinced i am that you are indeed a very lucky woman.
 
Ditto.

Ebony


MotorCitySam said:
I am not an expert on BDSM, or on how to run a message board, but I will say my piece, and you may judge it for what you believe it is worth.
Every step of the way in my learning about BDSM, I have read, over and over, and have been told by those I have been privileged to meet, that trust is the foundation of it all. Without trust there is no BDSM, only a sham in it's stead.
I came here to learn how to express myself in word, actions and deeds with the woman I love in a way that will fulfill us both. Nothing in my life could take on more importance to me. And I feel I have recieved good advice, and it has been a blessing to us both.
But if I did not feel those giving that advice were to be trusted, than I would be as foolish as anyone else who put themselves, physically or emotionally, into unreliable hands.
I have shown faith in what I have been told here, by Risia, by cymbidia, and many others, as to how best make this most important covenant between my love and myself succeed. If I lost that trust, I would be a fool to remain here.
And so I say to you all, whether you have had personal animosities in the past or not, that you need to either accept the trustworthiness of the moderators, and the many good people here, or you ought to move on and seek advice and counsel elsewhere. To remain here, without trust, can serve no purpose, either to yourselves or to others.
That's all I have to say on this subject. My best to you all.
 
But when you learn to think for yourself. You may not always agree with other here on this board. When you disagree with someone here, you should not be treated like you don’t belong here, or be ousted by the community you help evolved to what it is today. We are here to Learn, teach or understand about Bd/Sm. Not be belittled by others for the way we think, or what we do. Trust has a big part in it but I don’t trust everyone I meet. TRUST should be earned! Because in Bd/Sm you are putting you life in others hands, or have some one else’s life in your hands.
 
Trolling again said:
But when you learn to think for yourself. You may not always agree with other here on this board. When you disagree with someone here, you should not be treated like you don’t belong here, or be ousted by the community you help evolved to what it is today. We are here to Learn, teach or understand about Bd/Sm. Not be belittled by others for the way we think, or what we do. Trust has a big part in it but I don’t trust everyone I meet. TRUST should be earned! Because in Bd/Sm you are putting you life in others hands, or have some one else’s life in your hands.


Sam's point was that if you aren't happy here, take a damn walk. The internet is swarming with kinky play actors. If that's what you are looking for, quit whining and go do a Google search.
 
CarolineOh said:



Sam's point was that if you aren't happy here, take a damn walk. The internet is swarming with kinky play actors. If that's what you are looking for, quit whining and go do a Google search.

Ohhh I love when Caroline gets tough!

:D


And yes, well put, Sam.

Sometimes, our humaness shines through.

Damn! ONe of the things I love about this forum is that we are very in touch and open about our humaness.

No one is just another nick to play with.
 
I never said I wasn’t happy here, but you do loose respect for all involved, There is always two sides to every story, what happens when you say something and on the other side of a situation like this. Never said I lost any respect for the other people here, Just Crm and WD. why should I move on because I lost some respect for TWO people? Both of them decided to air there differences, IT brings the community down as a hole. You can’t just sweep it under the rug, because people leave felling hurt at everybody in the community. Not at the person or persons involved.
Bashing either on is only going to make the situation even worse
 
i dont think i've seen motorcitysam post much if at all before ... we move mostly in different circles

but i know caroline fairly well and shes cool ... and through her i've heard of sam ... so i just wanted to say nice to meet you and very well said and i see why she likes you so :)
 
if you're only upset by cym and wd, why wont you post as yourself and let us know who you are?
 
Trolling again said:
I never said I wasn’t happy here, but you do loose respect for all involved, There is always two sides to every story, what happens when you say something and on the other side of a situation like this. Never said I lost any respect for the other people here, Just Crm and WD. why should I move on because I lost some respect for TWO people? Both of them decided to air there differences, IT brings the community down as a hole. You can’t just sweep it under the rug, because people leave felling hurt at everybody in the community. Not at the person or persons involved.
Bashing either on is only going to make the situation even worse


Have you lost all respect for yourself? Because i've lost all respect for you.


Keep it up and i'll go public with my suspicions. Some people may not believe me and it may be a mistake for me as a member here, but it won't be hurt me as much as it will you. I think i actually have a few people here that like and will support me. Can you say the same?
 
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sexy-girl said:
i dont think i've seen motorcitysam post much if at all before ... we move mostly in different circles

but i know caroline fairly well and shes cool ... and through her i've heard of sam ... so i just wanted to say nice to meet you and very well said and i see why she likes you so :)

Thank you very much for your kind words. It is a pleasure to meet you too.
 
Thank you as well, tassie, Ebony,morning girl, MissTaken and Christa.
Yes, Caroline riled is a sight to behold.
 
Trolling again said:
I never said I wasn’t happy here, but you do loose respect for all involved, There is always two sides to every story, what happens when you say something and on the other side of a situation like this. Never said I lost any respect for the other people here, Just Crm and WD. why should I move on because I lost some respect for TWO people? Both of them decided to air there differences, IT brings the community down as a hole. You can’t just sweep it under the rug, because people leave felling hurt at everybody in the community. Not at the person or persons involved.
Bashing either on is only going to make the situation even worse

This is supposed to be a forum of adults, not a bunch of fricking babies.

I have found that no one gets flamed unless it is a trolling gutless wonder.

Get a clue.

Ebony
 
morninggirl5 said:



Have you lost all respect for yourself? Because i've lost all respect for you.


Keep it up and i'll go public with my suspicions. Some people may not believe me and it may be a mistake for me as a member here, but it won't be hurt me as much as it will you. I think i actually have a few people here that like and will support me. Can you say the same?

If you are so bold as to make threats to anyone on this forum, you are indeed an ignorant dolt. This is a fricking porn site, not church.

Ebony
 
Ebonyfire said:


If you are so bold as to make threats to anyone on this forum, you are indeed an ignorant dolt. This is a fricking porn site, not church.

Ebony

this is for the dolt, not you mg! you tell 'em!
 
It is a damn shame that the people and trolls on this forum can't settle disputes without rabble rousing.

If poster A dislikes something poster B does, deal with it. Leave us out of it.

If poster C dislikes how the mods are handling things, take it to the mods. Leave us out of it.

If I have a problem with anything or anyone here, I will be sure to let that individual know in a calm, non threatening manner. My personal choice is to ignore the poster or pm them.

But that is MY personal choice.

Something that I emailed a special and saddened friend today was this.

ONe of the things that makes this forum special is our freedom to be ourselves. Very few here hide behind false presentation or titles and labels. We share openly of ourselves among one another. That which makes us strong as a group, makes us vulnerable as individuals. So there needs to be forgiveness and adult conversation during the sticky moments. There needs to be understanding and fresh starts. If this can't be done, then why bother. We should all prance over to "SillyAssBDSM Chat.com" and play with the others.

I am sorry to ramble, but in my own bad state of mind today, these are a few of my thoughts.

Be well.



:rose:
 
The Troller has a point or two....

....I suggest.

And so do I...thanks in advance.

First.....Obviously, this whole "deleted thread/was a moderator" stuff has an emotional investment factor for some here...not for me, as it happens. Biggus Dealus, I say.....whoopee, who cares. It doesn't move me....it reminds me of teenagers on a school dance committee...adults? Yikes...get a grip, I think.

In any event....I've edited the Troller's words down to what I think are the salient points.....

Trolling again said:
When you disagree with someone here, you should not be treated like you don’t belong here.... We are here to Learn, teach or understand about Bd/Sm. Not be belittled by others for the way we think, or what we do.

Those two points are sound, good and strong.

Moderating a BDSM board is obviously tough....after all, there are only 4 or 5 "Rules" and the Mods are either volunteers or woefully underpaid, I assume.

And Internet Boards are and have always been, fairly wild and wooly.

I just think you folks need to get out more.
Really.

Lance
 
Re: The Troller has a point or two....

Lancecastor said:
....I suggest.

And so do I...thanks in advance.

First.....Obviously, this whole "deleted thread/was a moderator" stuff has an emotional investment factor for some here...not for me, as it happens. Biggus Dealus, I say.....whoopee, who cares. It doesn't move me....it reminds me of teenagers on a school dance committee...adults? Yikes...get a grip, I think.

In any event....I've edited the Troller's words down to what I think are the salient points.....



Those two points are sound, good and strong.

Moderating a BDSM board is obviously tough....after all, there are only 4 or 5 "Rules" and the Mods are either volunteers or woefully underpaid, I assume.

And Internet Boards are and have always been, fairly wild and wooly.

I just think you folks need to get out more.
Really.

Lance

I'm ready, where we going, Lance?

Eb
 
THAT's More Like It!

Yay! This is what we like to see....BDSM-ers getting out and about...**** in the sun....pass the tanning butter!

Road trip!

LC
 
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