Toy or Slave, what is the difference??

[Stella_Omega]

good luck negotiating that with any would be dominants.

Would-be's...

Won't be.

naw, I will be owned by no one less than an ultimate ruler, so that I can maintain my alpha status with the rest of the harem.

*snicker*

 

[Aurantica]

I've never seen anyone laughed out of a munch for being romantic. Most "bdsm couples" that I know are romantic. Wouldn't have it any other way.

I agree, though I can see how true romance would be difficult if the couple was really hardcore.

 

[Stella_Omega]

who is too damned busy ruling the world too keep you in line? How long do you suppose you'll last before usurpers of that harem murder you for your alpha status. Makiavellian politics at it's finest, right behind the emperors bed.

(and yes I'm sure I spelled that wrong; I can barely type, let alone cross reference spelling, with this jabbering baby on my lap)

Hella plot bunny!

 

[00Syd]

I agree, though I can see how true romance would be difficult if the couple was really hardcore.

WTF does "really hardcore" mean?

 

[chy_girl]

WTF does "really hardcore" mean?

When I hear "really hardcore" in relation to BDSM I can't help but think about the damned rabbit fur my People like to pull out when I've been a bit too sammy.

My guess is it's another one of those very subjective things.

 

[Stella_Omega]

WTF does "really hardcore" mean?

means "past MY limits."

Just like "Slut" means "Has more sex than ME."

 

[chy_girl]

rabbit fur?

Yes, rabbit fur. It's absolute torture and a huge mind fuck because it's all soft and stuff. They like to whip it out when I've been to sammy for their liking. Or when they want to fuck with my head... Or when they want to hear me beg. A lot.

Evidently I'm a little backwards. Rabbit fur makes me cry. But being hit with a 44 fall, 22" long fall length, cow hide flogger on an ax handle that's being swung like it's a louisville slugger with just as much speed and strength... That makes me puddle. Then I get the giggles. And my hands go retarded. And I beg for more.

*whispers*
I'm not much for sensual play unless it involves something very sharp and poky.
*/whispers*

 

[fuzawoni]

i think the bottom line is that people who use these labels or seek to clearly delineate them into clean little compartments, well, they do their thing

i'm completely on board with every relationship having a different dynamic and i would like my sub (a more general term for me) to in the same moment, pet/toy/slave

but this usage of "slave" seems to go against what other people would define it as, but that's fine because i'm not involved with them.

to get to topic, the difference b/w toy and slave to me would be the level of commitment with toy being far away from the level a slave has reached (not that a toy (or pet)'s devotion is any less serious

 

[RuReal]

In the end I would say that some people take themselves way too seriously, but really different people play different ways and there is room for those who want to be that serious about their BDSM just like there is room for me that is a bit more flexible.

 

[rida]

*snip*

as a side note, if my name were Andy, I'd totally want to get my name tattooed on the botom of my "toy's" foot. Just sayin.

For that matter, it's a tempting sentiment even with my own, less flowing name.

*like*

an idea to toy with .....

 

[SimonBrooke]

mentioned that idea to the wife; couldn't tell if she got the reference right away. She's so ticklish on her feet (and no-where else) that just mentioning a desire to do anything to her feet (aside from a foot rub) makes her squirm and refuse first, with a "wait, what?" after.

So no sharpies and certainly no tattoo's on the bottoms of her feet.

Besides, come to think of it, I once penned an artsy swirly design on the bottom of a former mistresses foot, and she proceeded to leave swirly little "fairy tracks" all over their kitchen. The other (alpha) mistress was pissed, & I got to clean it up cinderfella style.

Certainly wouldn't want a repeat of that with my own name, & have to answer questions to the kids.

Still, the appeal of a tattoo on the bottom of a long term "toy's" foot remains very enticing. The week or so of being unable to walk would suck though, I'm sure (guess I'd have to be sure said toy had no health concerns with crawling).

OK, we've talked about fantasy and reality in another thread. For me, too the idea of permanently marking - tattooing, or even more intense, branding - a pyl is a very powerful fantasy. The idea of having her branded with my monogram... (swoons).

But in reality, these marks, on average, last longer than relationships, on average. Being responsible, you need to feel confident that your pyl will feel comfortable to live with that mark even if your relationship unravels. And in saying that, we all know that in the high of a new and intense relationship people will agree to things which, with cooler heads, they might not. Just because she agrees now does not necessarily mean that she will not feel humiliated later.

 

[muzicbaby]

I have a growing crush on Stella...so I would like to see this menswear business.

You and me both!

I've got to say, this has been one of the most entertaining threads I've read in a long while. Rules are for schmucks. I make my own.

 

[MasterAnimus]

Rules are for schmucks. I make my own.

Agreed! The same goes with labels too.

 

[switchbitch]

Agreed! The same goes with labels too.

most definitely!

 

[where]

OK, we've talked about fantasy and reality in another thread. For me, too the idea of permanently marking - tattooing, or even more intense, branding - a pyl is a very powerful fantasy. The idea of having her branded with my monogram... (swoons).

But in reality, these marks, on average, last longer than relationships, on average. Being responsible, you need to feel confident that your pyl will feel comfortable to live with that mark even if your relationship unravels. And in saying that, we all know that in the high of a new and intense relationship people will agree to things which, with cooler heads, they might not. Just because she agrees now does not necessarily mean that she will not feel humiliated later.

this is very true, but some of us grown ups are cool with marking our bodies like that. Even though we know the relationship may not last, the memory of it will and the permanent mark is a constant reminder of it. It's wise to pick someone who has initials that can be marked on you in such a way as to be camouflaged though, just in case it does go badly bad

 

[Homburg]

Toys get played with.

Slaves get worked.

And no dominants are romantic. If you're romantic, they take away your D-Card. No one wants that because your D-card can get you into more places than a press pass.

 

[Keroin]

And no dominants are romantic. If you're romantic, they take away your D-Card. No one wants that because your D-card can get you into more places than a press pass.

*rolls eyes*

 

[Homburg]

*rolls eyes*

And, as you can see, it inspires petty jealousy as well.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Toys get played with.

Slaves get worked.

Very succinct. I'm adopting this definition.

And no dominants are romantic. If you're romantic, they take away your D-Card. No one wants that because your D-card can get you into more places than a press pass.

Whose hand are you holding in your av?

 

[Homburg]

Very succinct. I'm adopting this definition.

"Succinct" is a rare thing coming from me. Cherish it like the gem it is. I sure am.

Whose hand are you holding in your av?

Who says that is my hand? *glare*

 

[Keroin]

And, as you can see, it inspires petty jealousy as well.

*groans*

 

[Stella_Omega]

"Succinct" is a rare thing coming from me. Cherish it like the gem it is. I sure am.



Who says that is my hand? *glare*

You are too possessive to let some other man's hand hold a woman's hand in your av.

 

[Homburg]

You are too possessive to let some other man's hand hold a woman's hand in your av.

....

I shall return later when I have a snappy comeback to your insight here.

Harrumph.

 

[Keroin]

....

I shall return later when I have a snappy comeback to your insight here.

Harrumph.

I have it on good authority that one's D card is not taken away for romanticality:

"They don't take away your Dom card for loving to cook dinner, offering to help with the dishes, or giving your lover a foot rub after a hard day."

-Cutie Mouse, "How do you 'keep it in the bedroom'" thread, Nov 3, 2010

Dare you question the wisdom of the Mouse??

DARE YOU?!

 

[Homburg]

I have it on good authority that one's D card is not taken away for romanticality:

"They don't take away your Dom card for loving to cook dinner, offering to help with the dishes, or giving your lover a foot rub after a hard day."

-Cutie Mouse, "How do you 'keep it in the bedroom'" thread, Nov 3, 2010

Dare you question the wisdom of the Mouse??

DARE YOU?!

Of course. After all, _I_ have a D-card.

Membership has its' privileges.