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rosco rathbone
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Thinking about it; that's the only way I could have an even remotely "vanilla"-yet open, honest- relationship with someone.
rosco rathbone
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rosco rathbone said:
Or the female.
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Re: Spanking Someone Else's Slut
Yes, recently, my submissive failed to use the safe word when with me.
As part of her lesson and to help me better read her, I asked a male Dom who knows her well, to show me where her limits were for pain. The thinking, if she didn't use her safe word when she had been in position too long, could I trust her to use it if she were in real trouble?
He did so. I watched and learned.
Something I noticed and immediately thought of you, rr, was this man, who is by nature a nurturning and loving Dominant, had a glint in his eye, at one point. A glint of what appeared to be anger. While, maybe his scene on her ass was mild emotionally (while the physical power wasn't) by comparison to what you have described, I thought for a moment, I think I saw a hint of that sexual rage that you discuss and many deny.
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Yes, recently, my submissive failed to use the safe word when with me.
As part of her lesson and to help me better read her, I asked a male Dom who knows her well, to show me where her limits were for pain. The thinking, if she didn't use her safe word when she had been in position too long, could I trust her to use it if she were in real trouble?
He did so. I watched and learned.
Something I noticed and immediately thought of you, rr, was this man, who is by nature a nurturning and loving Dominant, had a glint in his eye, at one point. A glint of what appeared to be anger. While, maybe his scene on her ass was mild emotionally (while the physical power wasn't) by comparison to what you have described, I thought for a moment, I think I saw a hint of that sexual rage that you discuss and many deny.
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rosco rathbone said:
And she doth assist me in like wise.
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Re: Re: Spanking Someone Else's Slut
Weird what you see when you start looking for it.
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Weird what you see when you start looking for it.
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Same here, or some slight variant, and I think it's highly underrated as a relationship option. Lack of D/s between them doesn't mean a couple is vanilla. You could also have, a delicious variant, a really submissive couple.
Think of how sick you could get, playing them off one another....lovely.
Think of how sick you could get, playing them off one another....lovely.
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Netzach said:
Yes, imagine the tiers and fractal levels of possible unfairnesses.
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Re: Re: Re: Spanking Someone Else's Slut
Then, for the sake of discussion, is it possible that the "sexual rage" you feel is identified as "sexual energy" that others may describe?
Perhaps, the feelings aren't so negatively oriented, even though watching a submissive cry out and knowing she loves it does cause a mixed bag of emotions from errr me.
rosco rathbone said:
Then, for the sake of discussion, is it possible that the "sexual rage" you feel is identified as "sexual energy" that others may describe?
Perhaps, the feelings aren't so negatively oriented, even though watching a submissive cry out and knowing she loves it does cause a mixed bag of emotions from errr me.
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For me it's like orange alert. I don't think of it as "rage" but it is more than "energetic." It's not negative, but it's very very chaotic, quite unpredictable, even to me, and yet something I somehow manage to harness and handle. That I do comes as a surprise. This is the edge and the risk, in "edgeplay" for me.
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For some reason, the ideal girlfriend of the anti-me was listed as "100% compatible".....
Beautiful experienced submissive, early 30s, tall and slender with willowy limbs. 5'8" at 125 pounds. Fair skin. No children. Down-to-earth, good sense of humor, business-owner, highly intelligent, and ambitious. I exercise regularly. I have immaculate hyigene. I wear designer clothing and cosmetics, and always look my best. I play golf, enjoy weekend getaways, NYC visits and dining out. I seek a long-term dominant/submissive relationship with a gentleman who wants emotional attachment and monogamy. I've been trained as a live-in slave by one Master. I will gladly describe my training to serious inquiries. I had Victorian-minded training where women and men adhere to traditional roles. My prior Master always rewarded me with gratification. He never took my submission for granted. He spoiled me somewhat with spa treatments and beautification, like having my nails done. I become sexually aroused serving my Master and must have vanilla sex as part of bdsm activity. If my Master treats me well and rewards me with pleasures I will surrender completely and allow myself to be owned/collared. I am well-educated in this lifestyle. I'm an active member of The Eulenspiegel Society. I believe in using contracts. Activities I will NOT consent to: enemas, fisting, watersports, electricity play, asphyxiation, strangleation, caning, any activity that leaves a permanent mark or injury, threesomes, or severe humiliation. I am drug and disease-free. The form of birth control that I use is condoms. I prefer e-mail contact initially.
Looking For: A man for active participation
Ideal Person: I am seeking a straight (no bisexuals), physically fit, professional and attractive Master, 30-55, who is educated in, if not experienced in, the role of a true dominant/Master. You are a classy gentleman in vanilla situations and a strict Master in private situations. He should want a long-term traditional relationship that encompasses a dominant/submissive relationship. I am NOT seeking marriage. I'd prefer a man without children living at home. He must be white collar or corporate. This is the type of man and lifestyle I am accustomed to. My potential Master should respect women. He appreciates the beauty of women but does not objectify them. He cherishes the submission granted him. He is confident, but not arrogant. Strict but not cruel. He is able to communicate openly with direct honesty. He has a philosophy regarding the dom/sub relationship. He is a man with integrity and intelligence who works hard and plays hard. If he enjoys golf, dogs, antiques, nightclub dancing, luxury cars, and living life to the fullest that would help. He has good hyigene, is fit and health conscious. He must be disease free and agree to use condoms. NO drugs or smoking. NO couples, women, or overweight men. I am not a cum slut or sex toy. I don't want to be in your stable of bitches or part of a harem. If that is what you seek, look elsewhere. I will not be someone's mistress or participate in casual encounters. If you disagree with anything in this profile or are not the type of Master I seek please do not contact me. Please do not waste your time or mine. I have deliberately not posted a picture to avoid undesirables. Serious inquries that send a picture will receive a picture.
Pure should see this.
Beautiful experienced submissive, early 30s, tall and slender with willowy limbs. 5'8" at 125 pounds. Fair skin. No children. Down-to-earth, good sense of humor, business-owner, highly intelligent, and ambitious. I exercise regularly. I have immaculate hyigene. I wear designer clothing and cosmetics, and always look my best. I play golf, enjoy weekend getaways, NYC visits and dining out. I seek a long-term dominant/submissive relationship with a gentleman who wants emotional attachment and monogamy. I've been trained as a live-in slave by one Master. I will gladly describe my training to serious inquiries. I had Victorian-minded training where women and men adhere to traditional roles. My prior Master always rewarded me with gratification. He never took my submission for granted. He spoiled me somewhat with spa treatments and beautification, like having my nails done. I become sexually aroused serving my Master and must have vanilla sex as part of bdsm activity. If my Master treats me well and rewards me with pleasures I will surrender completely and allow myself to be owned/collared. I am well-educated in this lifestyle. I'm an active member of The Eulenspiegel Society. I believe in using contracts. Activities I will NOT consent to: enemas, fisting, watersports, electricity play, asphyxiation, strangleation, caning, any activity that leaves a permanent mark or injury, threesomes, or severe humiliation. I am drug and disease-free. The form of birth control that I use is condoms. I prefer e-mail contact initially.
Looking For: A man for active participation
Ideal Person: I am seeking a straight (no bisexuals), physically fit, professional and attractive Master, 30-55, who is educated in, if not experienced in, the role of a true dominant/Master. You are a classy gentleman in vanilla situations and a strict Master in private situations. He should want a long-term traditional relationship that encompasses a dominant/submissive relationship. I am NOT seeking marriage. I'd prefer a man without children living at home. He must be white collar or corporate. This is the type of man and lifestyle I am accustomed to. My potential Master should respect women. He appreciates the beauty of women but does not objectify them. He cherishes the submission granted him. He is confident, but not arrogant. Strict but not cruel. He is able to communicate openly with direct honesty. He has a philosophy regarding the dom/sub relationship. He is a man with integrity and intelligence who works hard and plays hard. If he enjoys golf, dogs, antiques, nightclub dancing, luxury cars, and living life to the fullest that would help. He has good hyigene, is fit and health conscious. He must be disease free and agree to use condoms. NO drugs or smoking. NO couples, women, or overweight men. I am not a cum slut or sex toy. I don't want to be in your stable of bitches or part of a harem. If that is what you seek, look elsewhere. I will not be someone's mistress or participate in casual encounters. If you disagree with anything in this profile or are not the type of Master I seek please do not contact me. Please do not waste your time or mine. I have deliberately not posted a picture to avoid undesirables. Serious inquries that send a picture will receive a picture.
Pure should see this.
Netzach
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LMAO
guess the Dom/sub randomizer makes some errors, eh?
"Activities I will NOT consent to: enemas, fisting, watersports, electricity play, asphyxiation, strangleation, caning, any activity that leaves a permanent mark or injury, threesomes, or severe humiliation."
Well, that's no fuckin' fun.
guess the Dom/sub randomizer makes some errors, eh?
"Activities I will NOT consent to: enemas, fisting, watersports, electricity play, asphyxiation, strangleation, caning, any activity that leaves a permanent mark or injury, threesomes, or severe humiliation."
Well, that's no fuckin' fun.
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that is the funniest thing I have read in days!! where the hell do you get this stuff??
~anelize
~anelize
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Netzach said:
The harnessing is, what i think, can be a challenge for some Dominants.
Then, my submissive self wishes for a relationship that evolves to a point wherein the Dominant can do whatever he chooses without having to be vigilant about my safety or needs.
That doesn't seem realistic, though. It is difficult to feel you are submitting anything when the Dominant is ever wary of what you enjoy, what you need and your safety.
Confusing post?
Pure
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she says,
I had Victorian-minded training where women and men adhere to traditional roles. My prior Master always rewarded me with gratification. He never took my submission for granted. He spoiled me somewhat with spa treatments and beautification, like having my nails done. I become sexually aroused serving my Master and must have vanilla sex as part of bdsm activity. If my Master treats me well and rewards me with pleasures I will surrender completely and allow myself to be owned/collared. I am well-educated in this lifestyle. I'm an active member of The Eulenspiegel Society. I believe in using contracts.
It's all very complex and patinaed with in phrases, but it's essentially a Jane Eyre seeks a strong mysterious wealthy gentleman (a Rochester).--- a few fetishes added.
Notice all the specs the dom has to meet; hoops to jump through: corporate, has own philsophy, respectful, not to cruel, able to indulge, etc. Iow, the lady has a good strong 'controlling' or dominant streak in her, for all the Victorian sub training.
RR, did you make this up? Was it to illustrate my point that there isn't much domination going on these days?
J.
I had Victorian-minded training where women and men adhere to traditional roles. My prior Master always rewarded me with gratification. He never took my submission for granted. He spoiled me somewhat with spa treatments and beautification, like having my nails done. I become sexually aroused serving my Master and must have vanilla sex as part of bdsm activity. If my Master treats me well and rewards me with pleasures I will surrender completely and allow myself to be owned/collared. I am well-educated in this lifestyle. I'm an active member of The Eulenspiegel Society. I believe in using contracts.
It's all very complex and patinaed with in phrases, but it's essentially a Jane Eyre seeks a strong mysterious wealthy gentleman (a Rochester).--- a few fetishes added.
Notice all the specs the dom has to meet; hoops to jump through: corporate, has own philsophy, respectful, not to cruel, able to indulge, etc. Iow, the lady has a good strong 'controlling' or dominant streak in her, for all the Victorian sub training.
RR, did you make this up? Was it to illustrate my point that there isn't much domination going on these days?
J.
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I just saw a Latina girl with a prominent, exposed slutgut. A BIG slutgut. And she was so young, firm, elastic, bouncy and smooth-skinned that I wanted to fuck her right in her deep, deep bellybutton.
White girls have a lot to learn about how to be fat. The sexiest of them still have a sort of "fuck you, so I'm fat" attitude.
White girls have a lot to learn about how to be fat. The sexiest of them still have a sort of "fuck you, so I'm fat" attitude.
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Rosco, you are a neverending source of amusement and wisdom. What's your ethnic background by the way?
And as for BDSM personals, ALT.com looks really good but I am not trying to pay for anything I just want to browse. Are there any free ones out there?
And as for BDSM personals, ALT.com looks really good but I am not trying to pay for anything I just want to browse. Are there any free ones out there?
rosco rathbone
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Marquis said:
I am, in roughly descending order: English, Welsh, German, Jew, Scottish, Irish.
I know little or nothing of BDSM personals. Perhaps MissT could be of assistance to you.
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Recent N Y Times [excerpts]:
Incredible Shrinking Y
By MAUREEN DOWD
Why, oh Y, are men so insecure?
The darlings have been fretting for some years now that they may be rendered unnecessary if women get financial and biological independence, learning how to reproduce and refinance without them. What if nature played a cruel trick and demoted men, so they had to be judged merely by their appearance, pliability and talent for gazing raptly at the opposite sex, no matter how bored?
New research on the Y chromosome shows that my jittery male friends are not paranoid; they are in an evolutionary shame spiral.
As Nicholas Wade wrote in The Times: "Although most men are unaware of the peril, the Y chromosome has been shedding genes furiously over the course of evolutionary time, and it is now a fraction of the size of its partner, the X chromosome. . . . The decay of the Y stems from the fact that it is forbidden to enjoy the principal advantage of sex, which is, of course, for each member of a pair of chromosomes to swap matching pieces of DNA with its partner."
Mr. Wade said that biologists in Cambridge, Mass., had made a remarkable discovery: "Denied the benefits of recombining with the X, the Y recombines with itself."
The ultimate guys' night out. Simply put, the Y chromosome figured out a Herculean way to save itself from extinction by making an incredibly difficult hairpin turn and swapping molecular material with itself.
Self-love as a survival mechanism: the unflinching narcissism of men may send women into despair at times, but it has saved their sex for the next 5 million or 10 million years.
But, according to Olivia Judson, science's answer to the sensual British cook Nigella Lawson, men may need more than narcissism to survive.
Dr. Judson, a 33-year-old evolutionary biologist at Imperial College in London who has written a book about animals in a Dear Abby style, or Deer Abby, under the pen name Dr. Tatiana, says the worm has turned. "For a long time, it was assumed that promiscuity was good for males and bad for females in terms of the number of kids they could have," she explains. "But it wasn't until 1988 that it really started to become evident that females were benefiting from having sex with lots of males, with more promiscuous females having more and healthier offspring."
In her book, Dr. Judson writes about powerful babes, noting that females in more than 80 species, like praying mantises, have been caught devouring their lovers before, during or after mating. "I'm particularly fond," she told me, "of the green spoon worm. . . . The male is 200,000 times smaller, effectively a little parasite who lives in her reproductive tract, fertilizing her eggs and regurgitating sperm through his mouth."
And then there's the tiny female midge, who plunges her proboscis into the male midge's head during procreation. As Dr. Judson told the journalist Ken Ringle, "Her spittle turns his innards to soup, which she slurps up, drinking until she's sucked him dry." {emphasis added}
[...]
In a new book called "Y: The Descent of Men," Steve Jones, a professor of genetics at University College in London, says males, always a genetic "parasite," have devolved to become the "second sex."
[...]
The Y chromosome, "a mere remnant of its once mighty structure," is worried about size. "Men are wilting away," Dr. Jones writes. "From sperm count to social status and from fertilization to death, as civilization advances, those who bear Y chromosomes are in relative decline."
Perhaps that's why men are adapting, becoming more passive and turning into "metrosexuals," the new term for straight men who are feminized, with a taste for facials, grooming products and home design.
Better to be an X chromosome than an ex-chromosome.
Incredible Shrinking Y
By MAUREEN DOWD
Why, oh Y, are men so insecure?
The darlings have been fretting for some years now that they may be rendered unnecessary if women get financial and biological independence, learning how to reproduce and refinance without them. What if nature played a cruel trick and demoted men, so they had to be judged merely by their appearance, pliability and talent for gazing raptly at the opposite sex, no matter how bored?
New research on the Y chromosome shows that my jittery male friends are not paranoid; they are in an evolutionary shame spiral.
As Nicholas Wade wrote in The Times: "Although most men are unaware of the peril, the Y chromosome has been shedding genes furiously over the course of evolutionary time, and it is now a fraction of the size of its partner, the X chromosome. . . . The decay of the Y stems from the fact that it is forbidden to enjoy the principal advantage of sex, which is, of course, for each member of a pair of chromosomes to swap matching pieces of DNA with its partner."
Mr. Wade said that biologists in Cambridge, Mass., had made a remarkable discovery: "Denied the benefits of recombining with the X, the Y recombines with itself."
The ultimate guys' night out. Simply put, the Y chromosome figured out a Herculean way to save itself from extinction by making an incredibly difficult hairpin turn and swapping molecular material with itself.
Self-love as a survival mechanism: the unflinching narcissism of men may send women into despair at times, but it has saved their sex for the next 5 million or 10 million years.
But, according to Olivia Judson, science's answer to the sensual British cook Nigella Lawson, men may need more than narcissism to survive.
Dr. Judson, a 33-year-old evolutionary biologist at Imperial College in London who has written a book about animals in a Dear Abby style, or Deer Abby, under the pen name Dr. Tatiana, says the worm has turned. "For a long time, it was assumed that promiscuity was good for males and bad for females in terms of the number of kids they could have," she explains. "But it wasn't until 1988 that it really started to become evident that females were benefiting from having sex with lots of males, with more promiscuous females having more and healthier offspring."
In her book, Dr. Judson writes about powerful babes, noting that females in more than 80 species, like praying mantises, have been caught devouring their lovers before, during or after mating. "I'm particularly fond," she told me, "of the green spoon worm. . . . The male is 200,000 times smaller, effectively a little parasite who lives in her reproductive tract, fertilizing her eggs and regurgitating sperm through his mouth."
And then there's the tiny female midge, who plunges her proboscis into the male midge's head during procreation. As Dr. Judson told the journalist Ken Ringle, "Her spittle turns his innards to soup, which she slurps up, drinking until she's sucked him dry." {emphasis added}
[...]
In a new book called "Y: The Descent of Men," Steve Jones, a professor of genetics at University College in London, says males, always a genetic "parasite," have devolved to become the "second sex."
[...]
The Y chromosome, "a mere remnant of its once mighty structure," is worried about size. "Men are wilting away," Dr. Jones writes. "From sperm count to social status and from fertilization to death, as civilization advances, those who bear Y chromosomes are in relative decline."
Perhaps that's why men are adapting, becoming more passive and turning into "metrosexuals," the new term for straight men who are feminized, with a taste for facials, grooming products and home design.
Better to be an X chromosome than an ex-chromosome.
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JarringJoe
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Re Maureen Dowd
Columnist Dowd is a pain in the ass, and I suggest that as a 50ish Irish Catholic spinster, her knowledge of sex is surpassed by any 12-year-old Southern redneck of either gender.
Columnist Dowd is a pain in the ass, and I suggest that as a 50ish Irish Catholic spinster, her knowledge of sex is surpassed by any 12-year-old Southern redneck of either gender.
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or i guess she's trying to point out that men are becoming more "womanly" in order to appease women (who seem to have more cultural cache now) and thus save their diminishing chromosomes from hopeless competition and extinction.
I like Netzach's point better since I don't think the meaning of life is chromosomal replication- how about just the pursuit of pleasure and comfort in whatever form that takes without thought or urge or the promise of reproduction.
--But for the sake of argument, how about this quote?
"The elephant seal in his erotic fury is a monument to feminine, rather than masculine, power. Much as the larger animals might appear to be in charge as they inflate their noses, roar and batter each other until the blood flows, in fact their consorts force the best to choose themselves. At first, females reject anyone who tries to woo them. Any individual bold enough to try to copulate gets a firm brush-off which attracts the attention of others, who soon begin to fight. The object of attention stands coyly aside until the best seal emerges, bloody but unbowed, and allows him to mate. The battle was his, but the choice was in effect made by her."
(Y:the descent of men. p.200)
This paragraph also seems to go a long way supporting Pure's point. Do they behave the way the way do because of female expectations or because it gives them pleasure to war with each other (or, maybe, it's a genuine pleasure to please the female)?
(as a side note, could i be the only one who suspects scientists are sometimes being slyly solipsistic and heart wrenchingly autobiographical when they discuss the trials and tribulations of mating.)
I like Netzach's point better since I don't think the meaning of life is chromosomal replication- how about just the pursuit of pleasure and comfort in whatever form that takes without thought or urge or the promise of reproduction.
--But for the sake of argument, how about this quote?
"The elephant seal in his erotic fury is a monument to feminine, rather than masculine, power. Much as the larger animals might appear to be in charge as they inflate their noses, roar and batter each other until the blood flows, in fact their consorts force the best to choose themselves. At first, females reject anyone who tries to woo them. Any individual bold enough to try to copulate gets a firm brush-off which attracts the attention of others, who soon begin to fight. The object of attention stands coyly aside until the best seal emerges, bloody but unbowed, and allows him to mate. The battle was his, but the choice was in effect made by her."
(Y:the descent of men. p.200)
This paragraph also seems to go a long way supporting Pure's point. Do they behave the way the way do because of female expectations or because it gives them pleasure to war with each other (or, maybe, it's a genuine pleasure to please the female)?
(as a side note, could i be the only one who suspects scientists are sometimes being slyly solipsistic and heart wrenchingly autobiographical when they discuss the trials and tribulations of mating.)
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