Top-opolis

[Netzach]

MTF T's are as high maintenance as girls, but I also like 'em.

Such bottoms though. Damn, I just want to bottom to a really bitchy Amazonian one someday who knows how to whip someone.

It's my achilles heel if ever one was. *sigh*

My personal opinion for the label-sensitive is that chasing massive trannies makes me the dyke I am and some guy chaser an imaginitive straight guy if "bi" is somehow too hard to cope with. After all, unless you are chasing the teeny peeny, you are chasing a remarkably attractive woman. Or maybe an unattractive one, if you're not as lucky that night.

Trannie chasers are basically straight guys with wider horizons.

G is one, the slut. I go to bars with him and watch him in action, sometimes.

 

[rosco rathbone]

MTF T's are as high maintenance as girls, but I also like 'em.

Such bottoms though. Damn, I just want to bottom to a really bitchy Amazonian one someday who knows how to whip someone.

It's my achilles heel if ever one was. *sigh*

My personal opinion for the label-sensitive is that chasing massive trannies makes me the dyke I am and some guy chaser an imaginitive straight guy if "bi" is somehow too hard to cope with. After all, unless you are chasing the teeny peeny, you are chasing a remarkably attractive woman. Or maybe an unattractive one, if you're not as lucky that night.

Trannie chasers are basically straight guys with wider horizons.

G is one, the slut. I go to bars with him and watch him in action, sometimes.

There are many, many guys who are after the cock. I think most of them are just straightup repressed homos who can't allow themselves to mouth a member attached to a traditionally male-looking person-that would be "gay".

In my personal dealings, I like the dick hidden under a g-string. I only hit it from the back anyway; or more likely, just go for the straight baloney wash.

I wouldn't be averse to some kind of humiliation/degradation thing with a hot pre-op. I'd be into hurting his teeny peeny and generally calling him a sissy bitch boy.

I'd put you in panties, lacy
Push 'em aside, mount from the back & ride/
And nut in your butt like John Wayne Gacy

 

[Netzach]

See we obviously have more in common than I ever would have guessed.

We both can appreciate the finer things in life, a dick stuffed in a pair of lacy T backed undies, and plumbing the ass behind it.

A round of kumbaya, everyone....

 

[rosco rathbone]

See we obviously have more in common than I ever would have guessed.

We both can appreciate the finer things in life, a dick stuffed in a pair of lacy T backed undies, and plumbing the ass behind it.

A round of kumbaya, everyone....

I had a brief fantasia the other day....Marquis deSadean....of a weird "equalish" relationship between two dominant torturers; who help each other degrade their victims; and enjoy the others' enjoyment of same. I sort of pictured them lolling side by side on an opulent couch, idly fingering each others' parts and lazily deciding on tortures and humiliations for the slaves crawling before them.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Thinking of a good, old-fashioned open-hand assbeating I administered a while ago, after someone had been less than fulfilling of their oral obligations. Very hard smacks. The second-to best part was that she was slender enough that I could easily hold her under one arm and control her movements, her legs locked down under mine. She was mad and that is what made it so nice. The best part was talking her through it: Asking her with every hit what the fuck she thought she was good for. Nothing but a skanky little cocksucker.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Damn, I just want to bottom to a really bitchy Amazonian one someday who knows how to whip someone.

Maybe this is sort of your bottom-equivalent to those guys I mention who can only let themselves touch a tool attached to a girl-looking person-anything else would be "gay"-(or, in your case "submissive" would be the hotbutton term).

 

[Netzach]

Maybe this is sort of your bottom-equivalent to those guys I mention who can only let themselves touch a tool attached to a girl-looking person-anything else would be "gay"-(or, in your case "submissive" would be the hotbutton term).

Huh. I have to think about this. I'm not one of those me-submit-hahahaha-you-are-out-of-your-mind-neeeeevah
people, it's not something I've never done nor would never do again, it's just something I can survive without doing. Unlike being a Top...that's something I'll wilt without, it's pretty clear to me.

I'd be toally shamelessly a pig with her, or a woman who really struck me that way, is it less "submissive" because she's not a guy? Um, sorry, no, it's still submission.

A long story:

Once upon a time,

I tried submission with one or two hetero average sorta "Dom" guys and with me very *femme* as a sub. "If you want to be a good Top you should bottom" OK, I thought. I want to be a good Top.

My disgust with the femsub experience was that I found I could turn them and mop the floor with them in a matter of moments. If not that, I certainly could make the scene be everything I wanted it to be. I can, and will, manipulate hetero guys with my sexuality, it's hardwired in me to the point where I can't seem to NOT do it. And maybe there are guys in the world it won't work on, I'm sure there are, I'm even sure I know a few. They, frankly, scare me.

Maybe if I threw myself at their feet I'd have a perfectly charmed slavegirl existence, replete with bullwhippings and a name etched on my asscheek.

I'll pass. Sounds as happy an existence and as charmed to me as it probably does to RR.

The babified girly sexuality bit felt really gross to me, after the fact. Like "I think I need a shower" gross. I've suffered no abuse/molestation as we think of it generally. I did lead a very sheltered and circumsrcibed childhood. I feel something like rage/nausea if a Top treats me as a child "we'll have to punish you/fix this behavior"...unless I'm in drag.

What totally liberated me as a submissive/bottom was the discovery of drag.

In college, every queer girl had this mandatory soft-butch-andro look, and me and a friend both totally rebelled against that. We maintained shoulder length hair, a clean, put-together appearance, sometimes skirts, sometimes jeans, no trying-hard glam femme punk thing, just...ourselves.

I wanted to have fun with my clothes, my appearence, my persona after graduation. Shoulder length hair...boring. I lopped it all off. One day, for shits and giggles, I put on my boyfriend's suit and my strap on under it.

It was an amazing epiphany. It was the kind where you both realize you've been missing something all along, and you have to throw youself on the bed and masturbate
yourself stupid.

I did want a Master, I did want a Daddy, I *did* want a Top. But who the *I* was, was a boy. At least while bottoming in a scene.

Hetero guys were stumped except for one who had read "Frank and I", bi ones were piqued but often missed the point "you are really into anal?" "Well, yeah, but that's not the point...", gay ones could care less.

This search led me to G. G was able to play the part, he could appreciate the gender spectrum in a way that straight guys were befuddled by. He has a very soft hand though, a very sweet idea of being a Top.

I'm not bottoming much anymore. You change as you mature, why do so few of the BDSM things you read acknowledge the idea that an orientation can change and change back and maybe change again? G's more of a bottom switch anyhow, so it's good. I met M, and somehow, being his partner and his Top is the best thing I can think of doing. I grew my hair out, then cut it all off again recently, in the admission that it simply looks BETTER that way.

But my couple of years as a boy, unfulfilled as the longing usually went, did teach me a lot, did pull me closer to my own male bottoms and introduced me to some really great people.

I'll stil take beatings from select femmes, women and butch fags. There's ONE hetero MDom I might let signal whip me, but he doesn't do anything for me sexually. He's one of the few I know who could keep it a little favor between friends.

So, my disinterest in dominant dick is not for lack of trying it, I guess that's the synopsis.

(And you can see why I was popular in Jizzo's little world, I'm sure.)

 

[Netzach]

Backing up to the first fantasia...

this has piqued my erotic imagination. I'd require a very cruel co-torturer with no illusions of "turning" me, and more importantly I'd have to resist the urge to "turn" her or maybe him, which might drive me absolutely nuts. In fact it would be even more erotic if s/he was just ever so slightly submissive, if I *knew* I could do it but shouldn't...couldn't....

What delicious repression.

 

[Quint]

Thinking of a good, old-fashioned open-hand assbeating I administered a while ago, after someone had been less than fulfilling of their oral obligations. Very hard smacks. The second-to best part was that she was slender enough that I could easily hold her under one arm and control her movements, her legs locked down under mine. She was mad and that is what made it so nice. The best part was talking her through it: Asking her with every hit what the fuck she thought she was good for. Nothing but a skanky little cocksucker.

You always know how to lure me back in.

T has been doing a lot of talk about side-kicking me in the stomach out of nowhere. It makes me very eager to return home. I hadn't even considered that kind of brutality until the punch-n-kick thread which to date he hasn't seen, and then here he goes.

It almost wants to bring up old issues of being beat up by a pack of Boy Scouts....me a scrawny little 5th grader with big glasses and bad hair, my arms held behind my back as they kicked me and called me names. But you know what? I think it has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with my orientation. I hated it and I hated them, and now I think I'd get hella fun out of it. Once I could breathe again.

Whew, psychoanalyze that. I'm Quint, incidentally, she who if ever "married" to her life at college, is now divorced. Could talk all day about what I'm going to do--a lie--but I think I'll save it for when I'm actually doing it. *takes a bow*

 

[rosco rathbone]

You always know how to lure me back in.

Rosco always knows the score.

*does a sinister Mr. Peanut soft-shoe vaudeville routine*

 

[evesdream]

Thinking of a good, old-fashioned open-hand assbeating I administered a while ago, after someone had been less than fulfilling of their oral obligations. Very hard smacks. The second-to best part was that she was slender enough that I could easily hold her under one arm and control her movements, her legs locked down under mine. She was mad and that is what made it so nice. The best part was talking her through it: Asking her with every hit what the fuck she thought she was good for. Nothing but a skanky little cocksucker.

*cough* someone should tell that tart about the union.

 

[rosco rathbone]

It's my achilles heel if ever one was. *sigh*

Achilles ass; I call it.

 

[rosco rathbone]

*cough* someone should tell that tart about the union.

What, Penis Suckers Local 151?

 

[Nick Stone]

What originally made me notice the writerdom he told me my stories had too many big words,

Yeah, I said your stories suck. Because basically, they do. I've noticed that you haven't written another since. Which I don't blame you since Lit turned down your first offering? Refused by lit, isn't that like being refused by a red light? But I encourage you to write another. You are doing the porn world a disservice by holding back.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Yeah, I said your stories suck. Because basically, they do. I've noticed that you haven't written another since. Which I don't blame you since Lit turned down your first offering? Refused by lit, isn't that like being refused by a red light? But I encourage you to write another. You are doing the porn world a disservice by holding back.

"Nick Stone"??

*snicker*

I could have thought up a better Playground handle for you, Thumbo.

 

[evesdream]

What, Penis Suckers Local 151?

ha, pro-cisely.

 

[rosco rathbone]

ha, pro-cisely.

That union has been broken. Scabs brought in and all bargaining powers lost. All part of the death of the labour movement.

 

[JarringJoe]

Spanking Someone Else's Slut

You wrote a few days back: Thinking of a good, old-fashioned open-hand assbeating I administered a while ago, after someone had been less than fulfilling of their oral obligations. Very hard smacks. The second-to best part was that she was slender enough that I could easily hold her under one arm and control her movements, her legs locked down under mine. She was mad and that is what made it so nice. The best part was talking her through it: Asking her with every hit what the fuck she thought she was good for. Nothing but a skanky little cocksucker.

A good friend was having trouble with his slut a couple of months ago and thought that having some outside chastisement would bring her into line. What you described is more or less what I did to her: a slim little bitch, but strong, and it took some strength to hold her across my lap while I slapped hell out of her ass. In mid-course she wiggled around so that she got atop my cock and enjoyed a hard fuck as I beat her red and raw. I did not quite draw blood but she took what was probably the hardest hand spanking I have ever administered, even to my own slut. When I finally stopped slapping her ass she simply rocked to and fro on my cock for another 20 minutes or so. Her Master wanted her to pull away and finish me off with her slut mouth but I demurred, saying she deserved to take my cum in her cunt. I filled her, and my Slut then licked her clean. I think that it is refreshing, from time to time, to swap sluts around and let them enjoy the torment of another Master's chastisements. My personal Slut is forbiddened to take another Master's cock in her ass but I do permit her -- provided she asks in advance -- to have another Master cum in her mouth. This is a privilege that I grant sparingly, and only to Masters with whom I am comfortable.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the merits of outside chastisement? We have one Master friend who is very adept with the lash. My slut has seen him whip his slut, and sometimes I invoke the threat of giving her to him when she shows signs of misbehaving. She has been spanked by other Masters but has never felt leather or the lash from anyone other than me.

 

[rosco rathbone]

This is all cool, but I'd have been pissed if I was her dominate and you "demurred" on my command. That pretty much makes YOU the dominate of the whole scenario and as we all know that leads to High Noon style situations.

 

[Netzach]

Agreed re: demurring.

Question to RR:
did your female miscreant then get fucked as JJ's did, or simply corrected and left wishing she'd gotten fucked?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Um, I think what happened was, she performed an extended act of humble oral service, with great attention to detail, and I was most pleased and like the Lord on the 7th day I rested. As I recall.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I like to keep the sexual attention on, and orgasms for, myself; for the most part.

 

[Netzach]

Right, so what I'm getting at is that bad behavior don't get rewarded. Well, not much anyway.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Right, so what I'm getting at is that bad behavior don't get rewarded. Well, not much anyway.

Right, "service is its own reward" or something like that. I have many ideas along these lines but little to no opportunity to experiment at this point in my continuum.

 

[rosco rathbone]

About the "Two Torturers" fantasy....

I was picturing it more as a sort of case of the rules of sexual warfare.."who shall top who"....being suspended for an odd sweet moment. That is why I referred to the torturers "idly fingering" each others' parts. I can imagine a weird calm and respect, an affection, reigning for a moment, and both egging the imaginations of the other onward. A very MdS moment; as I said before.

In my personal fantasy, the female torturer has a lot of hardcore lesbian manhating slaves; whom would regard sexual contact of ANY nature-not to mention an explicitly servile type-as foulest degradation. Thus she and I conspire to use my venomous nature to confound them and cast them into an inferno of sexual rage and shame. And likewise do I assist her in whatever schemes to bring low the male of the species she may devise.