Those IMPLAUSIBLE & IMPOSSIBLE cellphone calls

[Lovelynice]

At least two times that I recall in the last 4-5 years, a fellow passenger has received a cell phone call in flight.

What you (two years you've posted suspiciously little) seem to avoid with your storytelling is that it's IMPOSSIBLE for the cellphones to recieve calls while flying at cruising altitude.

and I really mean, IMPOSSIBLE.

Cellphones ring sometimes because they have an alarm setting. The ringing you mention (if true) was ONLY because of that - an alarm was set, the cellphone rang on the appointed set time for that alarm.

You didn't mention that the "fellow passenger" talked on the phone, you only said that the phone rang and that they hurried to switch it off. No cellphone call was recieved - because it's a technical impossibility.

Little anecdotes without any sources, links, or quotes to back them up prove nothing. They are just storytelling.

 

[DevilishTexan]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/JLSTexan/Shutup2.jpg

 

[phrodeau]

Lappdog, apparently you were flying with some government shills.

 

[Lappdog]

What you (two years you've posted suspiciously little) seem to avoid with your storytelling is that it's IMPOSSIBLE for the cellphones to recieve calls while flying at cruising altitude.

and I really mean, IMPOSSIBLE.

Cellphones ring sometimes because they have an alarm setting. The ringing you mention (if true) was ONLY because of that - an alarm was set, the cellphone rang on the appointed set time for that alarm.

You didn't mention that the "fellow passenger" talked on the phone, you only said that the phone rang and that they hurried to switch it off. No cellphone call was recieved - because it's a technical impossibility.

Little anecdotes without any sources, links, or quotes to back them up prove nothing. They are just storytelling.

Well...if you say so. But yes, one passenger, sitting directly accross the asile from me whispered a quick "can't talk now, call ya in a few hours" into the phone and then shut the cover and turned it off.

I have no reason or motive to lie or make this up. It happened.

I am not a heavy poster as you point out -but I follow many of the threads on the GB and post when the mood strikes. Not sure how this figures into my "cred".

Anyway.....just tellin ya what I've experienced.

It's true & it's real.

lapp

 

[Lovelynice]

Who was piloting the planes, LN?

AS I SAID ALREADY

I'll reply to that when you ANSWER THESE which you keep avoiding because you're such a loser that you HAVE NOTHING to back your claims;

I POSTED THIS BEFORE AND I'M STILL WAITING!
HURRY UP AND BACK YOUR SHIT, SHILLS
Because none of you shills have answered these previous questions (below) or provided anything to back what you claim

Show the plane that hit the pentagon.

Come on tinfoil hat wearers, you can do this, can't you?

There's a million dollar prize if you prove the WTC buildings weren't taken down by controlled demolitions too. Don't forget that.

Why won't you take the challenge?

I'm asking you to back your lies.

If you can't prove the WTC buildings didn't go down due to a controlled demolition, then you can't prove the Official Conspiracy Thesis for the simple reason that NOBODY, not NIST, not MIT and EAGAR and NOVA has been able to simulate the collapse of the buildings in the way that you shills claim that they went down.



Show me some "snapped" steel beams from other building collapses which match those of the WTC steel beams.


Picture of some unknown dude who none of the shills could prove was a hijacker.They can't prove he was.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6536/unknowndudeinairportld2.jpg


Where's the passport photo and/or other ID photo to compare the faces of the men alleged to be them, and their ID photos?

You can do this, or you can't.

If you can't, then those aren't them. They could be anybody.


The USA government got caught lying in this way before

The real Hanni Majour
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/hanjour1.jpg

The guy that the US government tried to claim was him
http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2004-07/13512460.jpg
I guess he must've had a head transplant. Not a very convincing image from a security camera either; there's no date or time. Every security camera image that I've ever seen had a date and time stamp.

and nine of the alleged hijackers are still alive!
http://www.welfarestate.com/911/




Dodging again.

Where's the passport photo and/or other ID photo to compare the faces of the men alleged to be them, and their ID photos

Otherwise you really are a fucking loser


Gringao counter this, and stop dodging;

"Cellphones can't make calls from passenger aircraft from the 5-6 miles up, while the plane is flying at 500mph. Expert opinion and scientific studies agrees with this, as has been cited repeatedly. That brings into the question the airfone calls, which could be dismissed since there are no records of them, and it is already widely known that the cellphone calls were faked."

If you can dispute it, then provide evidence. I believe that on other threads about phone calls none of you shills has been able to prove that cellphones can make calls under those conditions.

None of you have won that debate yet. I checked.

Also none of you shills has ever been able to answer this one;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when stee-framed tower buildings collapsed down at near free fall speed into their footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can you cite a single exception to this?

With a photo.

They have been unable to back their bullshit since I asked them to do so in regards to this above MONTHS ago!

Despite their earlier bullshit claims that it was "normal" for steel-framed buildings to collapse straight down into their own footprint (like WTC 7 does), yet not once have any of you been able to support your bullshit claims.

I'll keep posting this until I see them back their bullshit, which so far they have not done.

 

[Lovelynice]

I wonder whom I'm shilling for,....

You already know, so does everyone else.

You already know the answer as to why.

You're TOO OBVIOUS.

 

[phrodeau]

What, again?

Why don't you just re-read these old threads? It's all there, practically every point you made was refuted months ago.

 

[Lovelynice]

Well...if you say so.

Storytelling.

That's all you are engaging in.

Sorry dear, but it really is IMPOSSIBLE, and therefore you've been caught as a LIAR.

Now take your sorry little ass and do your lying elsewhere.

 

[Lovelynice]

What, again?

Why don't you just re-read these old threads? It's all there, practically every point you made was refuted months ago.

BULLSHIT


You idiots didn't refute ANY of my points. Anyone reading through the threads can see that.

stop telling lies.

 

[plasticman33]

BULLSHIT


You idiots didn't refute ANY of my points. Anyone reading through the threads can see that.

stop telling lies.

Honey, when you have something interesting and new to post, come on back.

 

[Lappdog]

Storytelling.

That's all you are engaging in.

Sorry dear, but it really is IMPOSSIBLE, and therefore you've been caught as a LIAR.

Now take your sorry little ass and do your lying elsewhere.

Jeeezzz...aren't we insecure? I just stopped by to relate my TRUE life experiences and I'm on attack?

Anyway...the rest of the people here on the LONG bus see through this shite~

Cheers!

 

[phrodeau]

BULLSHIT


You idiots didn't refute ANY of my points. Anyone reading through the threads can see that.

stop telling lies.

I don't bother with lies.

If all you'll believe in are the lies, then you have no use for the truth.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Lovelynice]

Jeeezzz...aren't we insecure?

I guess YOU must be.

I'm not.

The facts are clear. The scientific studies prove it. and I've shown it repeatedly on this thread and many others.

It is a FACT that it's impossible to make cellphone calls from passenger planes flying at cruising altitude six miles up and flying at over 450mph without an onboard cellular basestation (technology which wasn't available prior to 2004 and is still in testing stage), and it's a FACT that cellphone calls from a vehicle moving at over 450mph (even if successfully make the handshake when flying at low altitude) will only last a few seconds since there is no time for the hand-off; the call will ALWAYS drop out in just a few seconds - minutes long cellphone calls are IMPOSSIBLE.

 

[Lovelynice]

Really my dear, you have been Gringao'd, Pookie'd, Phrodeau'd, Lappdog'd, and DT'd,...

Yes, they've all failed utterly to refute any of my points, and you have only proven to be among the dumbest of them.

Quite revealing comment of yours; Lappdog must be YET ANOTHER SHILL ALT. In any case, IT was caught telling an OUTRIGHT LIE, engaging in ONLY STORYTELLING with NO cited quotes, backed by links or sources that can be verified. In other words, telling UTTER BULLSHIT STORIES. Hardly credible to even mention; so why do you bother, unless IT is one of your shill alts.

Not surprised at all. Too few posts since 2004, way too few.

and let's not forget that NONE OF YOU SHILLS HAVE ANSWERED THESE;

I POSTED THIS BEFORE AND I'M STILL WAITING!
HURRY UP AND BACK YOUR SHIT, SHILLS
Because none of you shills have answered these previous questions (below) or provided anything to back what you claim

Show the plane that hit the pentagon.

Come on tinfoil hat wearers, you can do this, can't you?

There's a million dollar prize if you prove the WTC buildings weren't taken down by controlled demolitions too. Don't forget that.

Why won't you take the challenge?

I'm asking you to back your lies.

If you can't prove the WTC buildings didn't go down due to a controlled demolition, then you can't prove the Official Conspiracy Thesis for the simple reason that NOBODY, not NIST, not MIT and EAGAR and NOVA has been able to simulate the collapse of the buildings in the way that you shills claim that they went down.



Show me some "snapped" steel beams from other building collapses which match those of the WTC steel beams.


Picture of some unknown dude who none of the shills could prove was a hijacker.They can't prove he was.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6536/unknowndudeinairportld2.jpg


Where's the passport photo and/or other ID photo to compare the faces of the men alleged to be them, and their ID photos?

You can do this, or you can't.

If you can't, then those aren't them. They could be anybody.


The USA government got caught lying in this way before

The real Hanni Majour
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/hanjour1.jpg

The guy that the US government tried to claim was him
http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2004-07/13512460.jpg
I guess he must've had a head transplant. Not a very convincing image from a security camera either; there's no date or time. Every security camera image that I've ever seen had a date and time stamp.

and nine of the alleged hijackers are still alive!
http://www.welfarestate.com/911/




Dodging again.

Where's the passport photo and/or other ID photo to compare the faces of the men alleged to be them, and their ID photos

Otherwise you really are a fucking loser


Gringao counter this, and stop dodging;

"Cellphones can't make calls from passenger aircraft from the 5-6 miles up, while the plane is flying at 500mph. Expert opinion and scientific studies agrees with this, as has been cited repeatedly. That brings into the question the airfone calls, which could be dismissed since there are no records of them, and it is already widely known that the cellphone calls were faked."

If you can dispute it, then provide evidence. I believe that on other threads about phone calls none of you shills has been able to prove that cellphones can make calls under those conditions.

None of you have won that debate yet. I checked.

Also none of you shills has ever been able to answer this one;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when stee-framed tower buildings collapsed down at near free fall speed into their footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can you cite a single exception to this?

With a photo.

They have been unable to back their bullshit since I asked them to do so in regards to this above MONTHS ago!

Despite their earlier bullshit claims that it was "normal" for steel-framed buildings to collapse straight down into their own footprint (like WTC 7 does), yet not once have any of you been able to support your bullshit claims.

I'll keep posting this until I see them back their bullshit, which so far they have not done.



It's a FACT before and after Sept 11 2001 that no steel-framed hi-rise or tower-style buildings have ever collapsed straightdown at close to freefall speed into their own footprint - except with controlled demolitions, and that it is IMPOSSIBLE without a controlled demolition according to the laws of PHYSICS.

It's a fact that NOBODY has ever successfully simulated the collapses of WTC 1, 2, & 7 without considering controlled demolition, and that means NOBODY. Not NIST, not, NOVA, Dr Eagar, FEMA, MIT, Bazant & Zhou, nor Dr Frank Green, nor anyone else. NOBODY has succeeded; those who have claimed to have done so, have ALWAYS been proven to be LIARS when their mathematical formula were checked.

It's a FACT, that there was NO INFERNO in either of the WTC twin towers. The temperatures of the fires never went above 360C, and apparently were around 250C, which is well below the 550C at which steel only barely begins to lose it's elasticity. Glass melts at 700C - There are no reports of melting glass at the towers, and the glass in the storeys above the fire didn't seem to break so the temperature was clearly way below 700C. Of the more than 170 areas examined on 16 perimeter column panels, only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250ºC - Only two core column specimens had sufficient paint remaining to make such an analysis, and their temperatures did not reach 250 ºC. Using metallographic analysis, NIST determined that there was no evidence that any of the samples had reached temperatures above 600 ºC. Kevin Ryan of UL had cited a similar figure (250C).

It's a FACT that there were hundeds of witnesses to explosions at the WTC buildings, and that their claims are supported by video evidence showing lines of explosions blowing out the floors before the falling debris could reach those floors, and there's seismic data showing impossibly short tremors revealing the use of explosives in those controlled demolitions.

and NOTHING by any of you shills has ever managed to get around these facts.

Pookie spends most of it's time LYING in debate or trying to pretend that Dr Frank Green's formula doesn't prove the collapses were impossible without controlled demolitions.

One of you idiotic shills cited Blanchard the LIAR;
Blanchard goes through 9 dubiously concocted assertions in favor of demolition, and attempts to refute them. He doesn't address any of the hard issues, such as the complete pulverization of the concrete, or the near freefall collapse times.

The most stupid claims written by Blanchard;

Quote "We do not know why exactly how or why WT7 fell when it did, and we decline to
hypothesize here."

Well that didn't stop Mr Blanchard from "hypothesizing" about the miles of wires and explosives required to rig WT1 and WT2 within 45 minutes after the first plane impact did it? Again we see the pathetic statements about miles and miles of wires and the 45 minutes to prepare the demolition after the first plane struck. Ignoring that there were weeks to prepare and the suspicious powerdowns (that many have mentioned already), and that would be no need for wires in this modern age of remote controlled bombs and detonators.

- The claim that those aren't demolition squibs shooting from the towers 10, 20, 30 floors below the demolition wave, those are pockets of air -- yeah, right, pockets of air that are symmetrical, emerging from the center of the floor, and sometimes 30 floors away from the collapse... come on.

- Those weren't explosions witnesses heard; those were just loud noises - 911 Eyewitness captures the pre-collapse explosions, and the way they get closer together just prior to the collapse - and some eyewitnesses were tossed around by these explosions - Blanchard is blowing smoke

- No evidence of thermite being used - you mean, when Dr. Jones found the chemical signature of thermite, that doesn't count as evidence?

The most suspect criticism is the claim that nobody who removed steel saw any molten metal, and that if there were molten metal it would jam the machinery. The presence of molten metal is confirmed by satellite thermal imagery of Ground Zero, and by the photographic and video evidence. If Blanchard didn't talk to anyone who was near these pools of molten metal, that's his problem. The satellite imagery confirms it!

Finally an attack on Alex Jones and Steve Jones and in the same sentence a reference to Wile E. Coyote and his creator Chuck Jones, a clever use of prose. Written no doubt by the CIA mocking birds.

This Wile E. Coyote/Road Runner theme seems to be running through quite a few of these recent neo-con shill "hit pieces", is this a new trend?? Look at the recent publication by Morgan 'No Planes' Reynolds (a "hit piece" on Dr Steve Jones), where the road runner was seen silhouetted on one of the Twin Towers.

Maybe this particular DoD / CIA / FBI operation is called operation "Road Runner".

By the way, there's an interesting history of "scientists" supporting quack theories in order to retain their position in society. See, for instance, Eugenics.

"When the excitement of the blast is over, a large, billowing cloud of dust is one of the most identifiable characteristics of a successful project."

This is what dutch demolition expert Jowenko said when he was asked to study the WTC 7 collapse;
"This is controlled demolition"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqrn5x2_f6Q

 

[Lappdog]

Yes, they've all failed utterly to refute any of my points, and you have only proven to be among the dumbest of them.

Quite revealing comment of yours; Lappdog must be YET ANOTHER SHILL ALT. In any case, IT was caught telling an OUTRIGHT LIE, engaging in ONLY STORYTELLING with NO cited quotes, backed by links or sources that can be verified. In other words, telling UTTER BULLSHIT STORIES. Hardly credible to even mention; so why do you bother, unless IT is one of your shill alts.

Ha..Ha....I am honored to have made the list of Shills. I am quite impressed with the company that I keep, since THEY speak and understand the truth.

But, an ALT I am not. Just a casual lurker & occasional poster that had a question. (which you never really answered -just called BS).

Anyway..I'll take my seat at the Shill table and enjoy my time.

Lapp

 

[kbate]

I guess YOU must be.

I'm not.

The facts are clear. The scientific studies prove it. and I've shown it repeatedly on this thread and many others.

Every single one of your claims, every single one of your sources and every single one of your experts has been repeatedly proven to be either uninformed or outright lying.

Lovelynice - you are a shill for moveon.org. Nothing more.

Useless.

 

[Ajax_Prime]

I know this isn't going to do an ounce of good, but I think I trust these guys a hell of a lot more than any of your sources. Supposedly goes far beyond the original PM article in debunking everything.

You should read it, and report back on what a bunch of "shills" and sellouts to the GOP PM really are.

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/158816635X.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V67081897_.jpg

 

[Gringao]

You should read it, and report back on what a bunch of "shills" and sellouts to the GOP PM really are.

It's a devastating book (to 911 kookdom in general, at least). I read it in about an hour and a half, more if you include the appendices.

 

[Lovelynice]

Supposedly goes far beyond the original PM article in debunking everything.

That's nice, and it doesn't mean much because the ORIGINAL article from Popular Mechanics was THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED as a pile of strawman arguments, nonsense, and outright lies.

POPULAR MECHANICS 9/11 ARTICLE DEBUNKED
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/gopm/index.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
http://911review.com/pm/markup/index.html

 

[Lovelynice]

Every single one of your claims, ....

Another BULLSHIT CLAIM

Funny how NONE of you shills, because that is exactly what you are, have ever been able to prove those cellphone calls from the planes were possible.

None of you have ever been able to provide a counter to any of this, you just keep DODGING, and never back your BULLSHIT!

I POSTED THIS BEFORE AND I'M STILL WAITING!
HURRY UP AND BACK YOUR SHIT, SHILLS
Because none of you shills have answered these previous questions (below) or provided anything to back what you claim

Show the plane that hit the pentagon.

Come on tinfoil hat wearers, you can do this, can't you?

There's a million dollar prize if you prove the WTC buildings weren't taken down by controlled demolitions too. Don't forget that.

Why won't you take the challenge?

I'm asking you to back your lies.

If you can't prove the WTC buildings went down with a gravity-driven collapse and not a controlled demolition, then you can't prove the Official Conspiracy Thesis for the simple reason that NOBODY, not NIST, not MIT and EAGAR and NOVA has been able to simulate the collapse of the buildings in the way that you shills claim that they went down.



Show me some "snapped" steel beams from other building collapses which match those of the WTC steel beams.


Picture of some unknown dude who none of the shills could prove was a hijacker.They can't prove he was.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6536/unknowndudeinairportld2.jpg


Where's the passport photo and/or other ID photo to compare the faces of the men alleged to be them, and their ID photos?

You can do this, or you can't.

If you can't, then those aren't them. They could be anybody.


The USA government got caught lying in this way before

The real Hanni Majour
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/hanjour1.jpg

The guy that the US government tried to claim was him
http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2004-07/13512460.jpg
I guess he must've had a head transplant. Not a very convincing image from a security camera either; there's no date or time. Every security camera image that I've ever seen had a date and time stamp.

and nine of the alleged hijackers are still alive!
http://www.welfarestate.com/911/




Dodging again.

Where's the passport photo and/or other ID photo to compare the faces of the men alleged to be them, and their ID photos

Otherwise you really are a fucking loser


Gringao counter this, and stop dodging;

"Cellphones can't make calls from passenger aircraft from the 5-6 miles up, while the plane is flying at 500mph. Expert opinion and scientific studies agrees with this, as has been cited repeatedly. That brings into the question the airfone calls, which could be dismissed since there are no records of them, and it is already widely known that the cellphone calls were faked."

If you can dispute it, then provide evidence. I believe that on other threads about phone calls none of you shills has been able to prove that cellphones can make calls under those conditions.

None of you have won that debate yet. I checked.

Also none of you shills has ever been able to answer this one;

EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when steel-framed tower buildings collapsed down at near free fall speed into their footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.

Can you cite a single exception to this?

With a photo.

They have been unable to back their bullshit since I asked them to do so in regards to this above MONTHS ago!

Despite their earlier bullshit claims that it was "normal" for steel-framed buildings to collapse straight down into their own footprint (like WTC 7 does), yet not once have any of you been able to support your bullshit claims.

I'll keep posting this until I see them back their bullshit, which so far they have not done.

 

[Lovelynice]

It's a devastating book ...

Yes it manages to discredit it's own credibility quite nicely, from the very first strawman argument to the very last outright lie.

 

[Lovelynice]

And you fools love to ignore what the firemen themselves say;

Video of firemen reporting bombs in WTC 7
"Bomb in the building. Start clearing out"
"What did you say? Secondary device?"
"Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W53wdu8IGlE&NR

 

[unregistered]

 

[Problem Child]

Every post to a lovelynice thread is a wasted post, even this one.