This isn't going away.

[Ishmael]

It seems that some critical information was denied the 9-11 commission. Information that might have prevented 9-11. It seems an attempt to transfer this information to US law enforcement was blocked one year before 9-11 occured.

It's no suprise that Jamie Gorelick becomes a central figure in this. She's the asst. AG that erected the 'firewall' that prevented the disemination of this information.

She shouldn't have been on the panel, she should have been grilled by the panel.

DAY OF INFAMY 2001
9-11 panel hammered
for ignoring Atta intel
Staff dismissed info about ID'ing of hijackers, ex-Bill Clinton aide Jamie Gorelick fingered
Posted: August 11, 2005
12:20 p.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Online commentators are taking aim at the 9-11 commission for its failure to include in its report that intelligence officials reportedly ID'd hijack ringleader Mohamed Atta as part of an al-Qaida cell in the U.S. over a year before the September 11 tragedy, saying the panel was acting politically instead of factually.

One commentator specifically points his finger at former Clinton staffer Jamie Gorelick, a member of the panel who has been accused in the past of acting to protect her ex-boss from any political fallout of the commission's work.

Members of the commission now are calling for a review of the matter, saying they knew nothing about a classified military intelligence unit known as "Able Danger" identifying Atta and three of his accomplices in 1999. The information was shared publicly this week by Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa. vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees.

While Weldon says Able Danger personnel recommended Atta and the others be deported, the information was not shared with federal law enforcement agencies, another symptom of the Clinton-era wall of separation that had been erected between intelligence and law enforcement personnel.

The New York Times reports the 9-11 commission staff decided not to share the Able Danger information with the panel members because some of the information sounded inconsistent with what they thought they knew about Atta.

"… [W]hy did [the commission] ignore the Able Danger operation in their deliberations?" asked Captain's Quarters blogger Ed Morrissey, as highlighted by columnist Michelle Malkin. "It would emphasize that the problem was not primarily operational, as the commission made it seem, but primarily political – and that the biggest problem was the enforced separation between law enforcement and intelligence operations upon which the Clinton Department of Justice insisted. The hatchet person for that policy sat on the Commission itself: Jamie S. Gorelick."

It was Gorelick who, as deputy attorney general in the Clinton Justice Department, established the wall of silence between intel and law enforcement.

"We believe it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations," Gorelick wrote in 1995. "These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation."

Gorelick rejected calls for her resignation from the commission last year when conflict-of-interest charges were raised.

Morrissey further discusses the apparent failure of commission staff to address the Able Danger data:

First we hear that no such [briefing on the info] occurred. After that, the commission says one might have occurred in October 2003 but that no one remembered it. Now we find out that the commission had two meetings where [they] heard about Able Danger and its identification of Mohamed Atta, including one just before they completed their report. Instead of saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a minute – this changes the picture substantially," and postponing the report until they could look further into Able Danger, they simply shrugged their shoulders and published what they had.

Why? Able Danger proved that at least some of the intelligence work done by the U.S. provided the information that could have helped prevent or at least reduce the attacks on 9-11. They had identified the ringleader of the conspiracy as a terrorist agent, even if they didn't know what mission he had at the time.

What does that mean for the commission's findings? It meant that the cornerstone of their conclusions no longer fit the facts. Able Danger showed that the U.S. had enough intelligence to take action – if the government had allowed law enforcement and intelligence operations to cooperate with each other. It also showed that data mining could effectively identify terrorist agents.

Morrissey says Gorelick's "wall of separation" between intelligence and law enforcement agencies "specifically contributed to Atta's ability to come and go as he pleased, building the teams that would kill almost 3,000 Americans."

National Review's Jim Geraghty hammered the commission as well, saying, "[A]s for the 9-11 commission, after all that patting themselves on the back, all that gushing praise from left, right and center, after their work was called 'miraculous' by Newsday, and the nomination for a National Book Award, and calling their own work 'extraordinary' ... man, these guys stink. Really, if this checks out, and the staffers had information like this and they disregarded it, never believing that we in the public deserved to know that the plot's ringleader was identified, located and recommended to be arrested a year before the attacks ... boy, these guys ought to be in stocks in the public square and have rotten fruit thrown at them. What a sham."

Family members of 9-11 victims also are speaking out against the commission. Yesterday, the organization September 11 Advocates released a statement calling on commission members to be held accountable, saying it was "horrified" that the Atta information was not considered.

"We believe that the time has come for the American people to demand the necessary accountability from all of our leaders," the statement said. "The 9-11 commissioners and staff who had a legal obligation to investigate and report upon all of the facts relevant to the 9-11 attacks should, therefore, be the very first individuals to be held accountable and responsible for their collective failure to meet their legislative mandate."

Continued the statement: "As 9-11 widows who fought tirelessly for the creation of the 9-11 commission, we are wholly disappointed to learn that the commission's Final Report is a hollow failure."

Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, one of the commission's co-chairs, insists the panel members themselves knew nothing of the Able Danger intel.

"The 9-11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9-11 of surveillance of Mohamed Atta or of his cell," Hamilton told AP. "Had we learned of it, obviously it would've been a major focus of our investigation."

Hillary isn't going to like this.

Ishmael

 

[Killswitch]

Theres only three people talking about this. You, Busybody and Rush Limbo.

No one else cares about your conspiracy theories and your Clinton bashing.

Non story.

Just be glad were giving you a break on Karl Rove for a little while.



Hillary in 08!

 

[miles]

When will the the conspiracy jerkoffs who said Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11 come forth and admit they were full of shit?

 

[LeahLo519]

No one else cares about your conspiracy theories and your Clinton bashing.

Yet we're all dying to hear the same stuff about Bush. Again.

 

[Ishmael]

We KS????

Are you pregnant? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Are you speaking for an organization? What organization?

Follow the 'bouncing ball' little man.

Ishmael

 

[Killswitch]

Yet we're all dying to hear the same stuff about Bush. Again.

At least its a current event. You remember those right? You have one due in fifth period english class tomorrow.

 

[Killswitch]

We KS????

Are you pregnant? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Are you speaking for an organization? What organization?

Follow the 'bouncing ball' little man.

Ishmael

All my messages are brought to you courtesy of Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, Hillary and President William H Clinton, Michael Moore and Move-On.Org.

 

[LeahLo519]

At least its a current event. You remember those right? You have one due in fifth period english class tomorrow.

And what the fuck is this then? Old news? Funny, because I consider all the "Bush lied! Kids died!" screaming a wee bit overdone. Call me crazy.

 

[LeahLo519]

And attacking my age should always be a last resort. I think you can do better.

 

[Lasher]

This would've gone away by now if you people didn't keep bumping it.

 

[Ishmael]

This would've gone away by now if you people didn't keep bumping it.

I play on the O/C shit.

Ishmael

 

[RoryN]

And attacking my age should always be a last resort. I think you can do better.

She got you there, Killswitch. Up your game.

 

[LeahLo519]

She got you there, Killswitch. Up your game.

Yeah, speaking of worn out tunes.

 

[Buster Shmoove]

Americans (and the world) are more concerned with facts than journalistic manipulation. You're boring, without facts and an asshole. Are you still sporting a mullet?

It seems that some critical information was denied the 9-11 commission. Information that might have prevented 9-11. It seems an attempt to transfer this information to US law enforcement was blocked one year before 9-11 occured.

It's no suprise that Jamie Gorelick becomes a central figure in this. She's the asst. AG that erected the 'firewall' that prevented the disemination of this information.

She shouldn't have been on the panel, she should have been grilled by the panel.



Hillary isn't going to like this.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

Americans (and the world) are more concerned with facts than journalistic manipulation. You're boring, without facts and an asshole. Are you still sporting a mullet?

All that effort you put into sucking my dick and I still wouldn't cum in your mouth. Get over it.

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Of course it's going to go away.

Democrats don't report things that make Democrats look bad and the mainstream press is still 70 to 80% Democrat.

You will see no alteration in their claims and tactics since they base their positions on emotion and who is going to let facts get in the way of emotion? They are a lot like the Religious Right they fear so much in that respect.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

She got you there, Killswitch. Up your game.

Yeah, I know two year olds that can whip LeahLo with half their brain tied behind their backs...

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Of course it's going to go away.

Democrats don't report things that make Democrats look bad and the mainstream press is still 70 to 80% Democrat.

You will see no alteration in their claims and tactics since they base their positions on emotion and who is going to let facts get in the way of emotion? They are a lot like the Religious Right they fear so much in that respect.

Lots of proof here: https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=360807

 

[Ishmael]

Lots of proof here: https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=360807

I saw that thread and decided to stay out of it.

This new little tid bit of info may answer the question of what in the hell Berger was doing in the National Archives.

The cast of characters may want to sweep it under the carpet but it appears this is heading for a congressional investigation.

I was listening to Weldon yesterday and he's pissed and in a position to do something about it. Time will tell, but the Dems aren't going to stop a congressional investigation if that's what Weldon wants.

Ishmael

 

[Le Jacquelope]

All that effort you put into sucking my dick and I still wouldn't cum in your mouth. Get over it.

Ishmael

What dick? Your daughter told me she bit it off.
Shut the fuck up Assmeal, and don't use your kid's mating call on me, 'k?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

The 9-11 Commission and its report never held any validity to me becasue it was:

A. a political witch hunt designed to influence the election,
B. addressing the need to find out what went wrong and how to correct it even though the administration was already doing that by switching away from the law-enforcement nonsense (as Britain now does) and,
C. set up with Gorelick on the panel to make sure Clinton's Legacy wasn't tarnished (they could live with just polished...).

I don't expect much more from the follow-up...

 

[Ishmael]

The 9-11 Commission and its report never held any validity to me becasue it was:

A. a political witch hunt designed to influence the election,
B. addressing the need to find out what went wrong and how to correct it even though the administration was already doing that by switching away from the law-enforcement nonsense (as Britain now does) and,
C. set up with Gorelick on the panel to make sure Clinton's Legacy wasn't tarnished (they could live with just polished...).

I don't expect much more from the follow-up...

We'll see. The question is will the press cover it? <shrug>

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Not a chance when they can go back and drag up Iraq, DeLay, and Rove in order to relegate the story to section C, page 43, below the fold next to the Viagra ads.

And their allies are sure to keep blowing things up so like a cheap magician at your kid's birthday party, they can keep misdirecting. It's already run its course. Mark my words because these are the kind I would be more than happy to eat if I were wrong, but I fear I am right. After all, the critics will say, "Is the only neocon "new" idea; to keep bringing up Clinton...?"

"Can't you just Moveon.org?"

 

[Ishmael]

Not a chance when they can go back and drag up Iraq, DeLay, and Rove in order to relegate the story to section C, page 43, below the fold next to the Viagra ads.

And their allies are sure to keep blowing things up so like a cheap magician at your kid's birthday party, they can keep misdirecting. It's already run its course. Mark my words because these are the kind I would be more than happy to eat if I were wrong, but I fear I am right. After all, the critics will say, "Is the only neocon "new" idea; to keep bringing up Clinton...?"

"Can't you just Moveon.org?"

True enough on the Clinton observation. I don't suspect we're going to be treated to indictments and trials. Just a little clearer picture for history.

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I think the picture is already crystal clear.

You don't treat the clarion call to religious war like a smash and snatch gang...