This Is The Home Of The Brave

[YDB95]

Well, they haven't blown anything up here since 9-11.

Mission Accomplished!​

We're perfectly safe now! The Taliban, flush with victory and
forcing our retreat wouldn't dream of another attack on US!

What do you mean "another attack"? They didn't attack us on 9/11. (Yes, they harbored the one who did mastermind the attack, but that's not the same.)

 

[Champakian]

Oh, so they won't go back to harboring, aiding and abetting.



I stand corrected...

 

[Champakian]

It's funny how under our sense of jurisprudence,
when the guard is shot, the getaway driver
is treated just like the shooter...

 

[vastiesmith100]

yea we are, but

no help from our leadership!

 

[LukSkyFokker]

There are too many in this thread without the balls to serve,
enjoying the right to free speech that the military provides...

Like the OP.

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[IrezumiKiss]

There are too many in this thread without the balls to serve,
enjoying the right to free speech that the military provides...

Like the OP.

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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/JovialHugeAlbertosaurus-max-1mb.gif

 

[ll74]

There are too many in this thread without the balls to serve,
enjoying the right to free speech that the military provides...

Enjoying the freedom we have does not require serving nor does it require that we must do anything to achieve it. That is why it's called freedom.

 

[HisArpy]

Enjoying the freedom we have does not require serving nor does it require that we must do anything to achieve it. That is why it's called freedom.

Unfortunately there's that "draft" thing. And I ain't talking beer.

Right now it's lurking just around the corner. But don't worry, it'll be in plain sight in a year or 2.

 

[ll74]

Unfortunately there's that "draft" thing. And I ain't talking beer.

Right now it's lurking just around the corner. But don't worry, it'll be in plain sight in a year or 2.

Lol, you're living a few years in the past...but good luck for that.

 

[HisArpy]

Lol, you're living a few years in the past...but good luck for that.

We shall see.


The Taliban (and friends) aren't going to stay in Afghanistan. When they come out, someone's going to have to send them into Allah's welcoming arms. That's not going to fall on the shoulders of any of us old bastards on Lit, but I believe that in a couple of years all those young woke-istas are going to find out in a hurry what they've wrought and Canada will suddenly gain a bunch of illegal immigrants.

 

[Rightguide]

What do you mean "another attack"? They didn't attack us on 9/11. (Yes, they harbored the one who did mastermind the attack, but that's not the same.)

They are accessories to the crime:

Accessory To A Crime
March 29, 2021

It’s important to understand that you don’t have to commit a crime directly (acting as the “principal”) to still be charged as an accessory to the crime. To form a definition of an accessory to a crime, it is also important to define related terms:

Aiding: Assisting an individual to commit a crime.
Abetting: Encouraging another to commit a crime. This is usually used in conjunction with “aiding a crime”.

Accomplice: An accomplice to a crime intentionally provides assistance or encourages another to commit a crime. Examples include distracting a security guard or assisting with the transportation of goods that were stolen. An accomplice can also be an aider and abettor to a crime, in that they participated in a passive manner rather than committing the actual crime. Accessories to crime tend to be prosecuted at the same level as the principal who committed the crime.

Accessory: An accessory to a crime is distinct from an accomplice. In order to be an accessory, an individual still provides encouragement or assistance with a crime, but the activity usually takes place before or after the crime has been committed—an accessory is typically not present at the crime scene itself. An accessory is usually distinguished between “after the fact” or “before the fact”.

Before the fact: aiding, abetting, inciting a crime, encouraging a crime, or inciting a crime.

After the fact: Sheltering an individual, assisting an individual after the fact, or helping in a cover-up.

 

[Rightguide]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/JovialHugeAlbertosaurus-max-1mb.gif

When did you two serve?

 

[ll74]

We shall see.


The Taliban (and friends) aren't going to stay in Afghanistan. When they come out, someone's going to have to send them into Allah's welcoming arms. That's not going to fall on the shoulders of any of us old bastards on Lit, but I believe that in a couple of years all those young woke-istas are going to find out in a hurry what they've wrought and Canada will suddenly gain a bunch of illegal immigrants.

I do believe your estimation of their influence and power is quite overstated.

They have no interest in anything outside of that country. ISIS is the one you're looking for....and they aren't nearly as big and powerful as they used to be.

Good luck with your draft. The "war on terror" worked well to fear monger you

 

[LukSkyFokker]

When did you two serve?

Same time as you. What infantry were you in, Jack?

 

[Veroe]

He should have done one of two things:

Keep his mouth shut and soldier on

~~ or ~~

Resign his commission in protest and then speak up.



As much as I might agree with what he is saying,
without meeting either one of those conditions,
he was clearly in the wrong...

I actually agree with Champakian here. He should've kept his mouth shut. You know preserving the chain of command and the esprit de corps and all that stuff. It's his job to follow the orders he's been given, barring it being an unethical or unconstitutional order, they don't have the luxury of questioning or objecting to or monday morning quarterbacking the decisions of their superiors or worse political leadership.

 

[Rightguide]

I actually agree with Champakian here. He should've kept his mouth shut. You know preserving the chain of command and the esprit de corps and all that stuff. It's his job to follow the orders he's been given, barring it being an unethical or unconstitutional order, they don't have the luxury of questioning or objecting to or monday morning quarterbacking the decisions of their superiors or worse political leadership.

He thought the plan was unethical, dangerous. "He argued that the withdrawal was a major policy failure from the highest levels of military leadership, calling out Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and the joint chiefs of staff."

He knew his statement would amount to a de facto resignation of his commission. This was a good man who spent 17 years in the ground combat trade, selflessly exposing himself and his men to death and or great bodily harm national interest, accepting his casualties as the cost of duty to the country and the burden of his service. He is a commissioned officer, he has the right to tell his commanders they are derelict, incompetent, unamerican, or that they are failing in their leadership. He has the right to resign his commission. Note, he did not refuse an operational lawful order. This was a fed-up Lt. Colonel who put his oak leaves on the table to criticize incompetent leadership at the national level. God bless him. Who knows how many lives he might have just saved by going public.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

He thought the order was unethical, dangerous. "He argued that the withdrawal was a major policy failure from the highest levels of military leadership, calling out Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and the joint chiefs of staff."

He knew his statement would amount to a de facto resignation of his commission. This was a good man who spent 17 years in the ground combat trade, selflessly exposing himself and his men to death and or great bodily harm national interest, accepting his casualties as the cost of duty to the country and the burden of his service. He is a commissioned officer, he has the right to tell his commanders they are derelict, incompetent, unamerican, or that they are failing in their leadership. He has the right to resign his commission. Note, he did not refuse an operational lawful order. This was a fed-up Lt. Colonel who put his oak leaves on the table to criticize incompetent leadership at the national level. God bless him. Who knows how many lives he might have just saved by going public.

Thanks for pointing out that he spent most of his time under Republitard reign.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

There are too many in this thread without the balls to serve,
enjoying the right to free speech that the military provides...

Your constitution provides you with the right to free speech, tonto.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

When did you two serve?

Same time as you. What infantry were you in, Jack?

https://c.tenor.com/lSFEoGOyHFYAAAAC/not-answering-what-are-you-not-answering.gif

Magoo lost his eyesight all of a sudden, huh...

 

[pecksniff]

Unfortunately there's that "draft" thing. And I ain't talking beer.

Right now it's lurking just around the corner. But don't worry, it'll be in plain sight in a year or 2.

The armed forces are not short of volunteer recruits, that I've heard.

 

[Rightguide]

https://c.tenor.com/lSFEoGOyHFYAAAAC/not-answering-what-are-you-not-answering.gif

Magoo lost his eyesight all of a sudden, huh...

Despite your friggin' bullshit, I've never served. I've never claimed to have done so. I am informed enough to know that the Lt. Col. was only demanding accountability for actions he himself would have been fired or tried for if committed by him. The point is the people at the top never have to suffer the kind of justice their subordinates do if they commit the same kinds of offenses, like dereliction of duty, aiding and abetting the enemy, cowardice in the face of the enemy, misbehavior before the enemy.

 

[vastiesmith100]

They helped them complete their death mission so

What do you mean "another attack"? They didn't attack us on 9/11. (Yes, they harbored the one who did mastermind the attack, but that's not the same.)

to me their the same as the ones who did it. There's been no attack because we have been taking it to them you ass wipe. Now we're running home and believe me they will follow and when something happens I hope you and bidden are the first to feel the fire!

 

[ll74]

to me their the same as the ones who did it. There's been no attack because we have been taking it to them you ass wipe. Now we're running home and believe me they will follow and when something happens I hope you and bidden are the first to feel the fire!

Yes, because you oversimplify who is doing what and who has done what. That happens when you generalize. The Taliban is only an adversary because they let Al Qaeda hang out in their country. ISIS K is not big enough or organized enough to move their actions outside of the region

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Despite your friggin' bullshit, I've never served. I've never claimed to have done so. I am informed enough to know that the Lt. Col. was only demanding accountability for actions he himself would have been fired or tried for if committed by him. The point is the people at the top never have to suffer the kind of justice their subordinates do if they commit the same kinds of offenses, like dereliction of duty, aiding and abetting the enemy, cowardice in the face of the enemy, misbehavior before the enemy.

You're a fucking disgrace to America.

 

[vastiesmith100]

Man I can't believe how much coo aid you drank

Do you really think these animals don't want to kill Christians and Americans? Come on man, you can't be that dumb. What difference does it make which tribe or group comes here and kill people. They would kill you w/o even blinking. Sooner or later they'll be here and with the open border some are most likely here. Again I hope all those brain dead folks like you will be the first to go and not the innocent !

I do believe your estimation of their influence and power is quite overstated.

They have no interest in anything outside of that country. ISIS is the one you're looking for....and they aren't nearly as big and powerful as they used to be.

Good luck with your draft. The "war on terror" worked well to fear monger you