The real cost to UK of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II...

[oggbashan]

King George III agreed with parliament to transfer the profits of the Royal Estates, his personal lands etc, to the government in exchange for clearing his debts and being given an allowance for the maintenance of his palaces, staff etc. Subsequent monarchs including the Queen have continued the practice.

Currently, the government gets £200 million a year from those profits and grants Her Majesty £40 million for her expenses. That means the country profits £160 million pounds a year from our Head of State. That works out at about £2.63 per head of population profit.

How much does a President of a republic cost (not including all the monies extorted by unscrupulous ones)?

The £160 million does not include the secondary profits from tourism drawn by Her Majesty's events and estates.

So we in the UK have the cheapest head of state in the world.

 

[rockcasbah]

Americans wont understand that, but it’s well said and correct.

(Most of them won’t even find out about the duchies, unless they pass them from the left hand side)

 

[oggbashan]

Americans wont understand that, but it’s well said and correct.

(Most of them won’t even find out about the duchies, unless they pass them from the left hand side)

The Prince of Wales, as the heir to the throne, has the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster and makes a profit from them - but he donates significantly to charity, notably the Prince's Trust. He pays standard income tax and business taxes on them.

 

[mayfly13]

King George III agreed with parliament to transfer the profits of the Royal Estates, his personal lands etc, to the government in exchange for clearing his debts and being given an allowance for the maintenance of his palaces, staff etc. Subsequent monarchs including the Queen have continued the practice.

Currently, the government gets £200 million a year from those profits and grants Her Majesty £40 million for her expenses. That means the country profits £160 million pounds a year from our Head of State. That works out at about £2.63 per head of population profit.

How much does a President of a republic cost (not including all the monies extorted by unscrupulous ones)?

The £160 million does not include the secondary profits from tourism drawn by Her Majesty's events and estates.

So we in the UK have the cheapest head of state in the world.

How generous of them.....

How much of those "personal" lands were generationally handed down from:

unfair taxation on the 'unwashed' (aka English laypeople)
theft from brown countries?

 

[oggbashan]

How generous of them.....

How much of those "personal" lands were generationally handed down from:

unfair taxation on the 'unwashed' (aka English laypeople)
theft from brown countries?

NONE. Taxation at the time of George III and before was only on the very rich nobility and merchants, not the general population. Even the 'tea' tax on the 13 colonies was a tax on a luxury that most colonists would never see unless they were seriously wealthy.

But since the 'Glorious Revolution' of 1688, NO taxation went to the Monarch. It went to, and was controlled by Parliament, so George III would not have benefitted from any taxation on the 13 Colonies, nor would he and his successors have benefited from any British Empire taxation.

Most lands date from the Norman Conquest and were taken from the Saxon nobility.

PS. Your hatred and bias is very obvious again.

 

[mayfly13]

NONE. Taxation at the time of George III and before was only on the very rich nobility and merchants, not the general population. Even the 'tea' tax on the 13 colonies was a tax on a luxury that most colonists would never see unless they were seriously wealthy.

Most lands date from the Norman Conquest and were taken from the Saxon nobility.

PS. Your hatred and bias is very obvious again.

But ogg, the nobility of yesterday are the trillionaires of today.

 

[rockcasbah]

The Prince of Wales, as the heir to the throne, has the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster and makes a profit from them - but he donates significantly to charity, notably the Prince's Trust. He pays standard income tax and business taxes on them.

primo genitur, inc

 

[oggbashan]

But ogg, the nobility of yesterday are the trillionaires of today.

The old British nobility is not generally wealthy. They lost too many sons in WW1 and the death duties crippled them.

The very rich in the UK today are 'new money' and tend to avoid taxation by legal (if dubious) means. The Prince of Wales and all members of the Royal family pay their taxes openly.

 

[oggbashan]

primo genitur, inc

We have recently changed the rules so that the first born is female or male.

 

[rockcasbah]

Nitpick… the point is he got the duchies for free, which along with the Queen’s profit center is a healthy source of wealth.

That said, i completely agree that the Royal Family is revenue positive to the Country.

 

[oggbashan]

Nitpick… the point is he got the duchies for free, which along with the Queen’s profit center is a healthy source of wealth.

That said, i completely agree that the Royal Family is revenue positive to the Country.

And both the Queen and the Prince of Wales are substantial donors to the UK economy.

 

[hillblazer]

Very interesting. I did not know this. Thank you!

 

[rockcasbah]

Hey Ogg how about Charles’ comments on the Refugees to Rwanda plan?

 

[oggbashan]

Hey Ogg how about Charles’ comments on the Refugees to Rwanda plan?

A report by an 'unnamed source' of a private conversation?

It is embarrassing - if true. But Prince Charles has a reputation for speaking his mind and has said he knows he will be unable to do that when he is monarch.

But his private conversations should stay private. He didn't make a public statement but apparently expressed the views of a large proportion of the UK's population. The policy is aimed to make the people smuggers' business mode unworkable and thus end the unsafe crossings in which people have died.

There is to be an appeal in the court of appeal tomorrow to stop the flight due to happen on Tuesday.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Why don't they just cut a licensing deal?
Elon Musk's new electric Royal Carriage!


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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

 

[oggbashan]

Why don't they just cut a licensing deal?
Elon Musk's new electric Royal Carriage!


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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

They don't need the money. Prince Charles has an Aston Martin and a LandRover converted to be electric only.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Does it have all the cool guns and gadgets?

Bonny Prince Bond...
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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

 

[oggbashan]

Does it have all the cool guns and gadgets?

Bonny Prince Bond...
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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

Unfortunately not. Even the Bond Aston Martin had those removed before it was sold. But it is eeriely quiet.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Y'all have just lost your sense of fun and adventure.

An armed Austin Power(s) makes for a more polite driving atmosphere.

Cut ME off? Bye-duh-bye!



(As you can see, as with all topics Britain, I don't know enough to take it seriously and don't pretend too.)

 

[rockcasbah]

Leaked, said or not, the Refugees to Rwanda thing is pretty crazy… sounds like something Trump would find fun.

 

[oggbashan]

Leaked, said or not, the Refugees to Rwanda thing is pretty crazy… sounds like something Trump would find fun.

They have tried almost everything else. The international laws of the sea stop the authorities from stopping, turning back or sinking the boats. Once they are a few yards off the French coast they are legally protected.

The French police do what they can but have one hundred miles of coast to protect, and some boats are now starting from Belgium.

It is very profitable for the smugglers who charge 3-4000 Euros per person.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

I'd fuck that Kate bitch. Di was a looker, too. And The Crown was a decent show.

 

[jaF0]

If Soon-To-Be-King Chuck's word ain't law, what the fuck is the point of Chuck?

The Brits just want a BJ?

 

[jaF0]

UK should build a wall.

 

[rockcasbah]

They have tried almost everything else. The international laws of the sea stop the authorities from stopping, turning back or sinking the boats. Once they are a few yards off the French coast they are legally protected.

The French police do what they can but have one hundred miles of coast to protect, and some boats are now starting from Belgium.

It is very profitable for the smugglers who charge 3-4000 Euros per person.

I think Canada should welcome all the refugees that want to come here.

Much like joining the military to get free university for a 5 year stint after grad as an NCO, refugees should work for 5 years for the government and assigned to national infrastructure works, green energy, whatever.

Turn them into contributing taxpayers.

But send them to Rwanda?

Send them to Ireland!