This story appears under the "Incest/Taboo" category and I'm wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to read it in its entirety? The story is told in retrospect by the daughter, who is now married (and has been for 20 years) to the man she lovingly seduced so long ago-- her Father, a college professor. There is no violence, no degradation of either party--just tender and heartrendering descriptions of memories past that had me believing the author was the daughter. It's a lovely story, but, to me anyway, describes a relationship that was too good to be true. I'm just wondering how much truth there is in the Literotia incest stories? If real incest involved such pure, sweet emotions then perhaps it shouldn't be illegal. I mean, what could be better than receiving unconditional love from a parent? I've heard that real father-daughter incest frequently involves an underaged daugher and an alcoholic, physically abusive dad...or is this a myth ...could someone enlighten me on this?
"The Past in Colorado" by jtmalone70
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Hello Jessica,
I was genuinely surprised to find that the one reply to my post turned out to be you, when all I expected was a smattering of superficial replies from casual readers or none at all.
Your story gave me an insider's view of how a father-daughter relationship evolved into romantic love, which, as you pointed out, didn't necessarily equate to sexual love. Jessie said to her father: "I fell in love with you over a long time-years. If I could spend the rest of my life with you, in your arms, and never have sex again, I'd die a happy person." My other favorite passage was towards the end of the story when you described your emotions driving away from the Rocky Mountains--how you were sad about leaving your old life behind and starting anew with a man who would now be your dad and your lover. I said it before and will say it now again--if father-daughter relationships turned out like yours did, then the stigma of "incest" should be revisited. On the other hand, my conjecture is that it has not been all that easy for you and your father in that daily life demands a certain degree of honesty and candidness. I'm sure that you often felt you had to be "on your guard" not to disclose the origins of your relationship with your spouse.
Another story I particularly like is "Sunrise My Darling" by J. Rolly. Jessie, have you read this autobiographical story about a niece (Rolly) and her maternal uncle In this situation, the uncle took a more aggressive, or shall I say, masterful role in their relationship in that "he took her only where she wanted to go" as Rolly writes, but, in my mind, actually initiated (though subtlely) the next phase of their relationship. Again, as in your story, there was no violence or humiliation, just tenderness and compassion between a young girl and her mother's brother. In terms of character development, I would have to say that I find the uncle a bit more appealing than the Dad in your story -- mainly because I've always preferred a man who is sexually dominant -- but, that is just my personal preference and is in no way intended to be critical or judgmental of your father or the way you chose to present your story.
By the way, just to lighten things up a bit, I'm wondering why you stopped calling your daddy, "daddy"? I call my hubby "daddy" all the time because that's what my kids call him. I think I use "dad" or "daddy" more often that his proper name. So, why would it feel strange to you to refer to him as what he really is/was? Maybe the next chapter can be from his POV.
I do hope you continue to write!
Escalante
I was genuinely surprised to find that the one reply to my post turned out to be you, when all I expected was a smattering of superficial replies from casual readers or none at all.
Your story gave me an insider's view of how a father-daughter relationship evolved into romantic love, which, as you pointed out, didn't necessarily equate to sexual love. Jessie said to her father: "I fell in love with you over a long time-years. If I could spend the rest of my life with you, in your arms, and never have sex again, I'd die a happy person." My other favorite passage was towards the end of the story when you described your emotions driving away from the Rocky Mountains--how you were sad about leaving your old life behind and starting anew with a man who would now be your dad and your lover. I said it before and will say it now again--if father-daughter relationships turned out like yours did, then the stigma of "incest" should be revisited. On the other hand, my conjecture is that it has not been all that easy for you and your father in that daily life demands a certain degree of honesty and candidness. I'm sure that you often felt you had to be "on your guard" not to disclose the origins of your relationship with your spouse.
Another story I particularly like is "Sunrise My Darling" by J. Rolly. Jessie, have you read this autobiographical story about a niece (Rolly) and her maternal uncle In this situation, the uncle took a more aggressive, or shall I say, masterful role in their relationship in that "he took her only where she wanted to go" as Rolly writes, but, in my mind, actually initiated (though subtlely) the next phase of their relationship. Again, as in your story, there was no violence or humiliation, just tenderness and compassion between a young girl and her mother's brother. In terms of character development, I would have to say that I find the uncle a bit more appealing than the Dad in your story -- mainly because I've always preferred a man who is sexually dominant -- but, that is just my personal preference and is in no way intended to be critical or judgmental of your father or the way you chose to present your story.
By the way, just to lighten things up a bit, I'm wondering why you stopped calling your daddy, "daddy"? I call my hubby "daddy" all the time because that's what my kids call him. I think I use "dad" or "daddy" more often that his proper name. So, why would it feel strange to you to refer to him as what he really is/was? Maybe the next chapter can be from his POV.
I do hope you continue to write!
Escalante
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Hi again,
Here's the link to:
Sunrise My Darling
It was published about 4 years ago in Literotica. I think you will appreciate this story and enjoy reading it!
Getting back to your story...you brought up a topic I'd like to explore--why did your father allow the relationship to begin in the first place? I like to think that your father knew of your intentions even before you realized what they were, parents being as intuitive as they are. I believe a good father (and mothers even more so) would naturally detect slight changes in their child's behavior and would wonder what was behind those changes. So, it would be quite obvious to a father if his child started behaving in a sexual manner towards him. If he wanted it to stop, he would not be ambivalent about it; a possible reason he would allow it to continue is because he may experience the same attraction to the child and simply doesn't know what to do about it. Thus, he would hesitate in discouraging the child because he wants it as much as she does. I may be wrong here, I'm just trying to reason things out here as I had a traditional conservative parent-child relationship and didn't even know what incest meant until I became an adult. Even then, I had the same reaction as you initially had...yechh...gross, etc. etc. Yes, if you could talk about this in your next installment please!
About the "daddy" word, it's ironic that it's a kind of sex talk between mainstream couples, but a turn-off for fathers in father-daughter couples. Yet, in 99% of incest stories the daughter calls her father-lover "daddy" and he, in turns, seduces her with a variety of endearing terms, i.e. baby, pumpkin, angel, sweetie, you-name-it. Oh well, so much for calling daddy "daddy."
jtmalone, thank you again for your very thoughtful posts. If my questions are naive, it's because I am about this topic (as you can probably tell). Please take care!
Escalante
Here's the link to:
Sunrise My Darling
It was published about 4 years ago in Literotica. I think you will appreciate this story and enjoy reading it!
Getting back to your story...you brought up a topic I'd like to explore--why did your father allow the relationship to begin in the first place? I like to think that your father knew of your intentions even before you realized what they were, parents being as intuitive as they are. I believe a good father (and mothers even more so) would naturally detect slight changes in their child's behavior and would wonder what was behind those changes. So, it would be quite obvious to a father if his child started behaving in a sexual manner towards him. If he wanted it to stop, he would not be ambivalent about it; a possible reason he would allow it to continue is because he may experience the same attraction to the child and simply doesn't know what to do about it. Thus, he would hesitate in discouraging the child because he wants it as much as she does. I may be wrong here, I'm just trying to reason things out here as I had a traditional conservative parent-child relationship and didn't even know what incest meant until I became an adult. Even then, I had the same reaction as you initially had...yechh...gross, etc. etc. Yes, if you could talk about this in your next installment please!
About the "daddy" word, it's ironic that it's a kind of sex talk between mainstream couples, but a turn-off for fathers in father-daughter couples. Yet, in 99% of incest stories the daughter calls her father-lover "daddy" and he, in turns, seduces her with a variety of endearing terms, i.e. baby, pumpkin, angel, sweetie, you-name-it. Oh well, so much for calling daddy "daddy."
jtmalone, thank you again for your very thoughtful posts. If my questions are naive, it's because I am about this topic (as you can probably tell). Please take care!
Escalante
Hello again jtmalone,
I just wanted to wish you a happy holiday season and thank you for being so candid in recounting the relationship between you and your father. I hope my prior post didn't come across as being overly intrusive; I was hoping we could continue our discussion about the evolution of father-daughter relationships for my (our) benefit and also for those who read this thread out of curiousity.
As I've said before, entering into an incestuous relationship -- I know you've said that you do not like the word -- as you've experienced it, is a life-altering but not necessarily traumatic event. Based on what you've shared with us, I'm sure there were moments when, even though you never doubted your feelings toward him, you questioned the appropriateness of the relationship and its consequences. I tend to believe that if your mother had been alive, none of this would be happened. Or, if you had grown up in an extended family, with male and female aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., living nearby and being constant visitors, again, it would not have happened. Do you agree with this or am I way off base?
I truly think that isolation and forced dependency set the stage for less traditional liaisons. I recall that, as a child, I overheard my parents talking about a family where the mother had passed away leaving her husband and an only child, a daughter who was a pre-teen at the time. THey said there were rumors about why the daughter never got married and never moved out. I think my parents said she was "like a daughter and wife to him." It turned out (as far as I know) that the daughter never dated and continued to live with her father until he passed on. It was obvious to me that they loved each other very much. No one ever talked about them after he died, and no one knew whether they shared more than what was considered acceptable between father & daughter.
I hope you find the time to continue this discussion...well, time to check on the roast -- happy holidays to you!
Escalante
I just wanted to wish you a happy holiday season and thank you for being so candid in recounting the relationship between you and your father. I hope my prior post didn't come across as being overly intrusive; I was hoping we could continue our discussion about the evolution of father-daughter relationships for my (our) benefit and also for those who read this thread out of curiousity.
As I've said before, entering into an incestuous relationship -- I know you've said that you do not like the word -- as you've experienced it, is a life-altering but not necessarily traumatic event. Based on what you've shared with us, I'm sure there were moments when, even though you never doubted your feelings toward him, you questioned the appropriateness of the relationship and its consequences. I tend to believe that if your mother had been alive, none of this would be happened. Or, if you had grown up in an extended family, with male and female aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., living nearby and being constant visitors, again, it would not have happened. Do you agree with this or am I way off base?
I truly think that isolation and forced dependency set the stage for less traditional liaisons. I recall that, as a child, I overheard my parents talking about a family where the mother had passed away leaving her husband and an only child, a daughter who was a pre-teen at the time. THey said there were rumors about why the daughter never got married and never moved out. I think my parents said she was "like a daughter and wife to him." It turned out (as far as I know) that the daughter never dated and continued to live with her father until he passed on. It was obvious to me that they loved each other very much. No one ever talked about them after he died, and no one knew whether they shared more than what was considered acceptable between father & daughter.
I hope you find the time to continue this discussion...well, time to check on the roast -- happy holidays to you!
Escalante
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Thanks for the link, dear. When I get some time to myself I will read the story. It sounds interesting, and I am always on the lookout for interesting people. Too many today are plastic people, just doing what is expected of them.
BTW, I saw the new pics on your other thread. Very, very nice.
BTW, I saw the new pics on your other thread. Very, very nice.
Dear Jessica,
As I get older and hopefully wiser, I've also become a lot less judgmental about people in general, particularly when the parties involved are consenting adults. In the case of you and your father, it could very well be that the two of you were meant to be together. I do believe in fate and destiny, and, of course, most things do happen for a reason. I can truly appreciate your wanting to share your thoughts and emotions through these stories.
By the way, I just finished reading "part 2" and I personally did not care for it because your encounter with the woman at the motel just seemed so unnecessary, for lack of a better word. I felt that it diminished your marriage. What really took me by surprise was your father's cavalier attitude towards the liaison...really, if I were him I would have told you to put that silly notion aside...and what about the kids?!? Alright, am I being judgmental now or what?!
But, seriously, I am looking forward to reading your next installment. I'm glad you're picking up where you left off... take care for now!
~Escalante
As I get older and hopefully wiser, I've also become a lot less judgmental about people in general, particularly when the parties involved are consenting adults. In the case of you and your father, it could very well be that the two of you were meant to be together. I do believe in fate and destiny, and, of course, most things do happen for a reason. I can truly appreciate your wanting to share your thoughts and emotions through these stories.
By the way, I just finished reading "part 2" and I personally did not care for it because your encounter with the woman at the motel just seemed so unnecessary, for lack of a better word. I felt that it diminished your marriage. What really took me by surprise was your father's cavalier attitude towards the liaison...really, if I were him I would have told you to put that silly notion aside...and what about the kids?!? Alright, am I being judgmental now or what?!
But, seriously, I am looking forward to reading your next installment. I'm glad you're picking up where you left off... take care for now!
~Escalante
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Is this a set-up? 
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wishfulthinking said:Is this a set-up?
*LOL*
Just what I was thinking. The voices do sound similar, don't they? All the way down to the punctuation.
Well, whatever...
--Zoot
Jessica,
I just reread Chapter 1 and it occurred to me there is another reason why I enjoy your story so much. When I was much much younger, I became quite infatuated with one of my college professors. I thought he was the smartest, cutest, and nicest guy on campus even though he was about 25 years my senior. He even looked the part, being tall, lean, with trouseled, graying hair. I remember I was thrilled by simply watching and listening to him; His lectures were always fascinating because He was giving them. Better yet, he was single and available (we knew he was divorced), and, even though I never acted on my fantasies, I'm pretty sure a couple of the other gals did since we knew he dated younger women. I suppose he'd be in big trouble today with the current trend in universities banning faculty-student affairs. But, hey, we're talking late 70s/early 80s when folks still raised an eyebrow at the term sexual harassment. So, Jessica, even if you had written about your affair with a professor who was someone other than your father, your story would still be hot and sexy.
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I just reread Chapter 1 and it occurred to me there is another reason why I enjoy your story so much. When I was much much younger, I became quite infatuated with one of my college professors. I thought he was the smartest, cutest, and nicest guy on campus even though he was about 25 years my senior. He even looked the part, being tall, lean, with trouseled, graying hair. I remember I was thrilled by simply watching and listening to him; His lectures were always fascinating because He was giving them. Better yet, he was single and available (we knew he was divorced), and, even though I never acted on my fantasies, I'm pretty sure a couple of the other gals did since we knew he dated younger women. I suppose he'd be in big trouble today with the current trend in universities banning faculty-student affairs. But, hey, we're talking late 70s/early 80s when folks still raised an eyebrow at the term sexual harassment. So, Jessica, even if you had written about your affair with a professor who was someone other than your father, your story would still be hot and sexy.
- E.
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wishfulthinking said:Is this a set-up?
I haven't had the chance yet to read Chapter 2. But I have read the other two and I've emailed Jessica a few times.
If this is a set up, it's a damn good one. Personally, I don't think it is a set up.
I do think that it is a heartfelt confession of a woman with doubts about her life.
Good luck, Jessica.
Jenny
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