The Obamagood Thread

[Sean Renaud]

One can only go by what they have said in the past to the present. It gets confusing if a candidate has changed their positions on various issues. She appears to have done that, with frequency. They all do that, I get that...but it doesnt excuse her from flip flopping, which I dont like.

i think with regards to marijuana, its trending higher, people want it, thus, votes. Chris Christy will fail with his stance on pot. I do like that she will be hand's off Colorado and the like.

MAybe I simply dont' pay enough attentioin to what she's saying because she doesn't seem to be any worse at flip flopping than any other politician or for that matter person in general who isn't a complete idiot.

It's worth noting people do grow, having a different opinion four years later on something isn't by definition flip flopping (though in fairness she probably did that because of voters and who the hell knows what she really thinks on the TPP) what Romney did was flip flopping, where his opinoins on many things changed basically between the primaries and the presidential . Really anybody paying attention knew he lied during the primaries because no quasi-sane person can survive their election process and told the truth in the presidential elections but in the age of the internet you can't really pull that shit. He would have been just fine fifteen to twenty years ago.

 

[russko]

Proud Canadian here - but a massive salute to the President.

Damn it - he isn't perfect - no one is - but he's done more with less than many of his predecessors.

What I don't understand (someone actually let me know) - is why he's garnered this much vitriol from the Right?! Ok, so he doesn't share the same political view points as they do, but the amount of hate, putdowns, ridicule, shenanigans, spite, and lies he's had to hear and endure is of the level reserved for criminals and the scum of the Earth.

they act like petulant 3 year old and spread lies and misinformation (lead by the mother ship Faux Noise) and a clip that rivals the machine guns they love to own so much...

a cursory visit to Fox news' FB page to read the comment on any (ANY) story posted there (whether political or not) will inevitably have hateful commonest about BHO ... the right seem to want to cut off their nose in spite of their face when it comes to this man.

even if they had a point on some (and i use that term loosely) they've lost all credibility to me as an outsider.

They're shameful.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[SEVERUSMAX]

If you look at the facts, yes, there are flaws in the ACA, but it has some good points, and frankly, some of the ideas are Republican in origin. This is a sign of decline, when instead of applauding the President for coming around to their ideas, Republicans bash him for doing so.

 

[CaptainKirk]

Proud Canadian here - but a massive salute to the President.

Damn it - he isn't perfect - no one is - but he's done more with less than many of his predecessors.

What I don't understand (someone actually let me know) - is why he's garnered this much vitriol from the Right?! Ok, so he doesn't share the same political view points as they do, but the amount of hate, putdowns, ridicule, shenanigans, spite, and lies he's had to hear and endure is of the level reserved for criminals and the scum of the Earth.

they act like petulant 3 year old and spread lies and misinformation (lead by the mother ship Faux Noise) and a clip that rivals the machine guns they love to own so much...

a cursory visit to Fox news' FB page to read the comment on any (ANY) story posted there (whether political or not) will inevitably have hateful commonest about BHO ... the right seem to want to cut off their nose in spite of their face when it comes to this man.

even if they had a point on some (and i use that term loosely) they've lost all credibility to me as an outsider.

They're shameful.

I believe (and this is just my opinion) it's because they feel Obama doesn't fit the formulae. Throughout our history, who's been in charge? Old white guys, that's who. They, along with non-political old folks hate change. They prefer things stay the same no matter what consequences (if any) come about.

Now, all of a sudden, there's a *gasp* black man in the White House, and the vitriol began. "Where's the REAL birth certificate?" "He'll start riots throughout the nation! Blacks will demand special treatment!" "He's a Kenyan, Muslim, Nazi, fascist, communist, socialist, yadda, yadda, yadda! We're doomed!" ...and the Republicans didn't do a damn thing to quell it. They encouraged it from Day 1 by stating that they will do everything in their power to obstruct him in order to gains votes and support.

And if (and I am saying 'if' because the election hasn't happened yet) Clinton gets elected, you'll see the same thing again because, "Oh no! There's a *gasp* woman in the White House! Change! It's bad! Bad, we say!"

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Is it just me that finds the fact that "Mr. Birther" Donald Trump is refusing to release his long form birth certificate and passport records?

Link for hilarity

 

[russko]

I believe (and this is just my opinion) it's because they feel Obama doesn't fit the formulae. Throughout our history, who's been in charge? Old white guys, that's who. They, along with non-political old folks hate change. They prefer things stay the same no matter what consequences (if any) come about.

Now, all of a sudden, there's a *gasp* black man in the White House, and the vitriol began. "Where's the REAL birth certificate?" "He'll start riots throughout the nation! Blacks will demand special treatment!" "He's a Kenyan, Muslim, Nazi, fascist, communist, socialist, yadda, yadda, yadda! We're doomed!" ...and the Republicans didn't do a damn thing to quell it. They encouraged it from Day 1 by stating that they will do everything in their power to obstruct him in order to gains votes and support.

And if (and I am saying 'if' because the election hasn't happened yet) Clinton gets elected, you'll see the same thing again because, "Oh no! There's a *gasp* woman in the White House! Change! It's bad! Bad, we say!"

too true

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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Obama on rainbow White House: To see people feeling whole & accepted with a right to love, that was "pretty cool."

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[IrezumiKiss]

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[IrezumiKiss]

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[Sean Renaud]

In fairness SOME people do need to be in jail. Not nearly as many as we have in jail currently mind you but some mother fuckers are genuinely evil.

 

[Aglaopheme]

We're #2 in the entire world. Thank you for profit privitazation.

http://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/prison_population_rate?field_region_taxonomy_tid=All

 

[Sean Renaud]

Goddamn Obama, we slipped to number 2 under his watch!

 

[Aglaopheme]

Goddamn Obama, we slipped to number 2 under his watch!

I know. I was going to try and find out when we dropped down from number one. Thanks Obama! Hopefully the trend will continue. I think we'll keep our "American exceptionalism" as long as it's profitable.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

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"What, you mean that it's a good idea to have an educated middle class?"

 

[Aglaopheme]

"What, you mean that it's a good idea to have an educated middle class?"

Not for you Republicans.

 

[JackLuis]

President Tactfully Avoids Mentioning Who Armed Iran In The First Place​

The President was quoted:

"You know, I have a lot of differences with Ronald Reagan, but where I completely admire him was his recognition that if you were able to verify an agreement, that you negotiated with the evil empire that was hellbent on our destruction and was a far greater existential threat to us than Iran will ever be."

Reagan said:

Reagan: "I believe our policy goals toward Iran were well-founded. However, the information brought to my attention yesterday convinced me that in one aspect, implementation of that policy was seriously flawed."

Reporter: "Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?"

Reagan: "No. And I’m not taking any more questions."

I know what you’re thinking, but at the time, arming an enemy who was taking Americans hostage and using that money to overthrow a government that wasn’t taking Americans hostage just made sense. So did legwarmers. Did I mention they were funding a cocaine-dealing rebel army? Again, it was the 80s. Kajagoogoo was a thing.

Aw, Saint Ronnie. Makes a neocon swoon remembering the first Sock Puppet elected.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Not for you Republicans.

Well, there are Republicans and Republicans. Not all Republicans are created equal. Some of us are even a little progressive.

 

[RjThoughts]

President Tactfully Avoids Mentioning Who Armed Iran In The First Place​

The President was quoted:


Reagan said:




Aw, Saint Ronnie. Makes a neocon swoon remembering the first Sock Puppet elected.

Ronnie armed both Iran and Al Qada! But NeoCons forget that, don't they?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Well, there are Republicans and Republicans. Not all Republicans are created equal. Some of us are even a little progressive.

I don't have a problem with Republican people. I have a problem with a lot of Republican policies. I even managed to read right on past your blasting unions and lazy teachers in one of your stories I read today.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Ah, yes, that. I'm not as anti-union as I used to be. My main worry was that public-sector unions would gain too much at taxpayers' expense and prevent necessary reforms. But my views are more moderate about public-sector unions than they were and some of the reforms that I once favored I no longer support. I also used to be an an-cap at one point, so...yeah. Hell, I used to be anti-choice on abortion rights, too.

 

[Sean Renaud]

AN Cap just encase there is another retard like say me reading this whose never heard that particular term before.

It's basically free market capitalism and hinges on the idea that idea that people are a lot smarter, more informed and fundamentally 'good' than history would tell us that they are.

Also FLIP FLOPPER! Can't trust Severus, it's flopper I tells ya flopper!

(Just so when all the right wingers get here they know that just like they say, only Democrats can evolve. Republicans flop like fish on the dock!)

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

AN Cap just encase there is another retard like say me reading this whose never heard that particular term before.

It's basically free market capitalism and hinges on the idea that idea that people are a lot smarter, more informed and fundamentally 'good' than history would tell us that they are.

Also FLIP FLOPPER! Can't trust Severus, it's flopper I tells ya flopper!

(Just so when all the right wingers get here they know that just like they say, only Democrats can evolve. Republicans flop like fish on the dock!)

LMAO.

"If men were angels, no government would be necessary." - James Madison

 

[Aglaopheme]

Ah, yes, that. I'm not as anti-union as I used to be. My main worry was that public-sector unions would gain too much at taxpayers' expense and prevent necessary reforms. But my views are more moderate about public-sector unions than they were and some of the reforms that I once favored I no longer support. I also used to be an an-cap at one point, so...yeah. Hell, I used to be anti-choice on abortion rights, too.

Interesting. Can you point to anyone thing that led you down a more progressive path?