the late jimmy savile - child abuser

[butters]

i never liked that creepy bastard

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...aville-child-abuse-allegations_n_1926504.html

 

[butters]

he held the biggest bag of candy, and with his power (his name for raising money) these kids had no-one who'd listen to them.

shame on all you media fucks who saw and heard stuff but kept it all under wraps to protect your own careers.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

A current resident of the 7th level of hell.

 

[islandman]

Is he your Jerry Sandusky?

 

[torchthebitch]

Did you hear Nina Myskow on the Jeremy Vine radio show defending the teacher who fled to France with the 15 year old? Or Anne Diamond and her "so what" about the same event?

 

[butters]

Rantzen is convinced many personalities in British entertainment heard gossip suggesting Jimmy Savile abused children, but they chose to ignore the rumours.

Saville was one of the most popular presenters on the BBC, but now 10 women have claimed they were assaulted by him when they were girls, and four will appear in an explosive documentary about the star, who died last year.

"We all blocked our ears. There was gossip, there were rumours."

Rantzen said no action was taken because Saville, who raised millions of pounds for charity, was such a huge star in British TV.

She added: "It's very distressing. We made him into the Jimmy Saville who was untouchable, who nobody could criticise. He was a sort of god-like figure.

"Everybody knew of the good that Jimmy did and what he did for children. And these children were powerless."

and all the names he's been linked with are cropping up: this from one site, though i don't know how credible the source is

http://chris-ukorg.org/cover-ups/jimmy-saville-witch-hunt-or-paedophile/

In 2007, Surrey Police received a complaint from a woman who said she was indecently assaulted by Savile at Duncroft in the 1970s. The allegation was investigated but no further action was taken.
During the filming of the top of the pops, one of the Nolans aged 14 says : “I stood next to Jimmy Savile, and uh I was 14, and he was all over me. You know its a bit like , ahhhggg, I dont like it.”

In the 1960′s ,The former Radio 1 DJ Alan ‘Fluff’ Freeman owned a large corner shop on the Lea Bridge Rd in London.
“This shop has recently been reported as a place where ‘Fluff’ held kinky parties ,attended by the likes of confirmed bachelor Sir Jimmy Saville , convicted child molester Jonathen King the once jailed paedophile broadcaster & former pop star and Brian Epstein, who was at the time the Homosexual manager of the Beatles.
“At these parties , young boys , specially brought over from several childrens homes would be plied with drugs and alcohol.
“However these parties were forced to come to an end when Police chiefs got wind that the MP & Ex Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe was attending them along with several other prominent MP’s…

 

[butters]

Is he your Jerry Sandusky?

maybe even worse - he was one of the biggest names on tv in britain for many years, and was so famous for raising so much money for charity. he was a top of the pops presenter but his biggest show was Jim'll Fix It, where kids were encouraged to write in with a wish that Jim would then 'fix' for them to experience. it was a great show for kids to watch, but he always always creeped me the fuck out. he got a knighthood

Did you hear Nina Myskow on the Jeremy Vine radio show defending the teacher who fled to France with the 15 year old? Or Anne Diamond and her "so what" about the same event?

no. another woman i cannot abide. as for anne diamond, she should engage the brain before opening the mouth

 

[RoryN]

maybe even worse - he was one of the biggest names on tv in britain for many years, and was so famous for raising so much money for charity.

So he's sort of your Jerry Lewis.

Mind you, Jerry Lewis hasn't been accused of child abuse...but he's a confirmed prick on an epic scale.

 

[torchthebitch]

no. another woman i cannot abide. as for anne diamond, she should engage the brain before opening the mouth

I was totally astounded by her remarks and those of Anne Diamond. Particularly since we were also hearing about the way that the authorities disregarded the complaints from the children in Rochdale. It seems that many at the BBC knew things and simply walked away.

 

[butters]

so many tales coming out of the woodwork, now, from other media people all tripping over themselves trying to get their stories heard in order to make themselves look better

when all they're doing is exposing themselves as the shits they were back when this crap was going down AND THEY DID NOTHING!

 

[butters]

I was totally astounded by her remarks and those of Anne Diamond. Particularly since we were also hearing about the way that the authorities disregarded the complaints from the children in Rochdale. It seems that many at the BBC knew things and simply walked away.

lots of seriously big names linked with his, torchy, like sir edward heath....

 

[butters]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jimmy-savile-sexually-abused-us-as-girls-10-women-t

Some of those who contributed to the documentary are believed to be former pupils of Duncroft Approved School in Staines, Surrey, where Savile was a regular visitor.

Two claimed that he took them for drives in his car and gave them money, cigarettes, records and places in the Clunk Click studio audience in return for “sexual favours”.

In 2007 Surrey Police received a complaint from a woman who said she was indecently assaulted by Savile at Duncroft in the Seventies.

The allegation was investigated but no further action taken.

The documentary — Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy — took 12 months to make and the final edit was being done today.

Former Surrey police officer and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas is fronting the programme. At least two of the alleged victims have waived their rights to anonymity.

The source added: “These are women who were abused as children.

“They tell how it has destroyed and devastated their lives. It affects them to this day.

“Most of them have not told this story before. It is the first time they have spoken in detail about everything. It’s explosive stuff.”

The BBC had originally hoped to broadcast the allegations in a Newsnight report in December but it was dropped as it was “unable to substantiate” key facts. The corporation later screened two tribute programmes celebrating Savile’s lengthy BBC career.

just as well ITV isn't as chickenshit as the BBC

 

[butters]

The Jim'll Fix It presenter raised more than £40million for good causes and was knighted for his services to charity, so his close friend Howard Silverman is desperate to avoid that reputation being sullied by what he believes are untrue allegations.

'We all had fun when we were young but none of it was ever with underage girls,' Mr Silverman told the Yorkshire Evening Post.

'I was a very good friend of Jimmy's and can assure everyone that this is untrue. He cannot defend himself as he is dead.'

The programme will also claim that some BBC staff members were aware of Sir Jimmy's alleged improper relationships with young girls.

However, a spokesman for the corporation said it had no record of any allegation of misconduct being made against the star.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/913718-...of-sexually-abusing-schoolgirls#ixzz27zdjtLee


three fucking monkeys

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

So he's sort of your Jerry Lewis.

Mind you, Jerry Lewis hasn't been accused of child abuse...but he's a confirmed prick on an epic scale.

We complain about your sorry ass being a prick on an epic scale, yet no one here does anything about it do they? Yeah, I am talking to you RoryN.

 

[butters]

same site as before.

don't know if they're giving it straight or not but they seem to have the names and the places that others aren't publishing yet, not before the documentary

Jimmy Savile, star of children’s television favourite Jim’ll Fix It, sued the Sun in 2008 over a series of articles linking him to Haut de la Garenne, the Jersey children’s home where human remains were found and children were allegedly tortured and sexually abused. He initially denied ever visiting the home, despite photographic evidence to the contrary. Savile’s reaction was to slap an injunction on The Sun who had to withdraw the picture.

One of those who stood most to lose was Sir Edward Heath, the former prime minister from 1970-74, who was known to visit the Jersey care home the Haute Garrene among others to take young boys on boating weekends on his yacht called ‘Morning Cloud’, or as his bodyguards referred to it, ‘Morning Sickness’.

Heath was also sensationally linked to a childrens home in N Ireland. The Kincora Boys’ Home was a home for working boys in Belfast that was the scene of a notorious child sex abuse scandal. The scandal first came to public attention on 3rd April 1980, when three members of staff at the home, William McGrath a notorious homosexual , Raymond Semple and Joseph Mains, were charged with a number of offences relating to the systematic abuse of children in their care over a number of years. Mains, the former warden, received a term of six years, Semple, a former assistant warden, five years and McGrath four years. Former Army Press officer Colin Wallace, who was based in Belfast, has long insisted that the authorities knew boys were being systematically sodomised at the home six years before they decided to act.

http://chris-ukorg.org/cover-ups/jimmy-saville-witch-hunt-or-paedophile/

 

[torchthebitch]

Yasmin Alibhai Brown on the conflation of the conflation of the Jeremy Forrest, Jimmy Savile, Rochdale, and two other abuse cases.

In the past, educationalists were expected to exercise “moral turpitude” even at university. That has gone. We need to bring back old moral boundaries between teacher and learner. Instead of being protected by schools, the staff room Lotharios should be exposed, put on a register, never be employed in those positions again. However, they are not dangerous in the same way as the sadistic gangs above.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...these-cases-are-not-all-the-same-8191261.html

I'm not so sure she is right, and I feel she is verging on the attitude of NM and AD. From what I can make out, Forrest has a track record, and he seems to have started some sort of engagement with the girl when she was about 14. So it looks a bit like grooming to me.

 

[torchthebitch]

However, a spokesman for the corporation said it had no record of any allegation of misconduct being made against the star.

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three fucking monkeys

"I have no memory of that"

Re Kincora. I had not heard any suggestion of Heath being linked to it. One or two other politicians but not Heath. And I reckon if he had the Provos would have let everyone know.

 

[butters]

Yasmin Alibhai Brown on the conflation of the conflation of the Jeremy Forrest, Jimmy Savile, Rochdale, and two other abuse cases.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...these-cases-are-not-all-the-same-8191261.html

I'm not so sure she is right, and I feel she is verging on the attitude of NM and AD. From what I can make out, Forrest has a track record, and he seems to have started some sort of engagement with the girl when she was about 14. So it looks a bit like grooming to me.

it says here:

Another Crown Court in Reading convicted a gang which lured young girls to “sex-parties”, hotels and backs of cars, to be defiled and filmed.

so, apart from the filming, what's different between them and him? except he's dead and won't face his accusers? not a lot. as for forrest, it's not new but it's not acceptable. it is everything BUT acceptable.

 

[butters]

"I have no memory of that"

Re Kincora. I had not heard any suggestion of Heath being linked to it. One or two other politicians but not Heath. And I reckon if he had the Provos would have let everyone know.

i'd never heard of his name touted around in this manner before either, but perhaps he was well-protected. strangely i wouldn't like to think of him being linked with this shit and i'm not saying he was. however, IF he was, was it possible to conceal it? big names command big power. maybe we'll never know.

 

[torchthebitch]

it says here:


so, apart from the filming, what's different between them and him? except he's dead and won't face his accusers? not a lot. as for forrest, it's not new but it's not acceptable. it is everything BUT acceptable.

The difference is the case is easily proved because the abusers provided the evidence for their own conviction. That is all.

On the TV news tonight there was a woman who said she went into a room where she saw a girl on Savile's lap. Kinda late now.

 

[torchthebitch]

i'd never heard of his name touted around in this manner before either, but perhaps he was well-protected. strangely i wouldn't like to think of him being linked with this shit and i'm not saying he was. however, IF he was, was it possible to conceal it? big names command big power. maybe we'll never know.

Just about every organisation in N.I. had eyes in key places like airports and ports. For Heath to get in without anyone knowing, he would have had to fly into RAF Aldergrove. Any transit thereafter would have to have been by car. Given how short a time he had as PM, he would have lost a lot of his security cover. Far to risky. Why come to N.I. when all he had to do was get on his yacht in Portsmouth and sail to the Channel Isles? A much more realistic cover story.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

The BBC also explained why an investigation by BBC2's Newsnight into Sir Jimmy was never broadcast. Newsnight editor Peter Rippon said:

It is absolutely untrue that the Newsnight investigation was dropped for anything other than editorial reasons.

We have been very clear from the start that the piece was not broadcast because the story we were pursuing could not be substantiated.

To say otherwise is false and very damaging to the BBC and individuals. The notion that internal pressure was applied appears to be a malicious rumour.

{gsgs comment- Yeah, right. /end sarcasm} PS- bleurghhh

 

[butters]

Just about every organisation in N.I. had eyes in key places like airports and ports. For Heath to get in without anyone knowing, he would have had to fly into RAF Aldergrove. Any transit thereafter would have to have been by car. Given how short a time he had as PM, he would have lost a lot of his security cover. Far to risky. Why come to N.I. when all he had to do was get on his yacht in Portsmouth and sail to the Channel Isles? A much more realistic cover story.

according to that site he did just that:

One of those who stood most to lose was Sir Edward Heath, the former prime minister from 1970-74, who was known to visit the Jersey care home the Haute Garrene among others to take young boys on boating weekends on his yacht called ‘Morning Cloud’, or as his bodyguards referred to it, ‘Morning Sickness’.

i suppose, as in all these types of affairs, we'll never know the truth, only the version of it those holding the reins wish us to.

 

[butters]

The BBC also explained why an investigation by BBC2's Newsnight into Sir Jimmy was never broadcast. Newsnight editor Peter Rippon said:

It is absolutely untrue that the Newsnight investigation was dropped for anything other than editorial reasons.

We have been very clear from the start that the piece was not broadcast because the story we were pursuing could not be substantiated.

To say otherwise is false and very damaging to the BBC and individuals. The notion that internal pressure was applied appears to be a malicious rumour.

{gsgs comment- Yeah, right. /end sarcasm} PS- bleurghhh

all those words padding out a non-statement. and the 'covering of arses' with 'could not be substantiated' and 'appears to be'. i'm just surprised they didn't throw in an 'alleged' or two.

 

[XdOu™]

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