The Isolated Blurt Thread XXXVIII: Suffering Sappho!

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The kitten is thriving. She is still looking like a she and if that holds true, her name is Hazel.

She bounces around here, it's hilarious and she is becoming more independent even though she is still teeny tiny.


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Is anyone watching the Cavs/Warriors????
 


...The accumulation of false and/or misleading claims is often referred to as the ‘overwhelming evidence’ for forthcoming catastrophe. Without these claims, one might legitimately ask whether there is any evidence at all.

Despite this, climate change has been the alleged motivation for numerous policies, which, for the most part, seem to have done more harm than the purported climate change, and have the obvious capacity to do much more. Perhaps the best that can be said for these efforts is that they are acknowledged to have little impact on either CO2 levels or temperatures despite their immense cost. This is relatively good news since there is ample evidence that both changes are likely to be beneficial although the immense waste of money is not.

I haven’t spent much time on the details of the science [in this presentation], but there is one thing that should spark skepticism in any intelligent reader. The system we are looking at consists in two turbulent fluids interacting with each other. They are on a rotating planet that is differentially heated by the sun. A vital constituent of the atmospheric component is water in the liquid, solid and vapor phases, and the changes in phase have vast energetic ramifications. The energy budget of this system involves the absorption and reemission of about 200 watts per square meter. Doubling CO2 involves a 2% perturbation to this budget. So do minor changes in clouds and other features, and such changes are common. In this complex multifactor system, what is the likelihood of the climate (which, itself, consists in many variables and not just globally averaged temperature anomaly) is controlled by this 2% perturbation in a single variable? Believing this is pretty close to believing in magic. Instead, you are told that it is believing in ‘science.’ Such a claim should be a tip-off that something is amiss. After all, science is a mode of inquiry rather than a belief structure.”

–Richard H. Lindzen, Ph.D.
Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences (emeritus)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Fellow American Academy of Arts and Sciences, AGU, AAAS, and AMS
Member Norwegian Academy of Science and Letters
Member National Academy of Sciences


ht tp://merionwest.com/2017/04/25/richard-lindzen-thoughts-on-the-public-discourse-over-climate-change/

http://merionwest.com/2017/04/25/ri...-on-the-public-discourse-over-climate-change/



 
Them American softwood guys are such babies. They gotta learn how to make money cutting down trees

Not their fault. Winters just aren't cold enough to grow nice dense wood. Was reading a comparison between BC cedar shakes and Georgia shingles. Why would you think that nice warm weather is good wood growing weather. For construction purposes.

Now they are bitching the 800 some odd million is a subsidy. Yet the US pays out 20 billion in subsidies to the farming industry. Even none farming corporations get a share.

Haiti is an excellent example of a developing country negatively affected by agricultural subsidies in the developed world. Haiti is a nation with the capacity to produce rice and was at one time self-sufficient in meeting its own needs.[41][42] At present, Haiti does not produce enough to feed its people; 60 percent of the food consumed in the country is imported.[43] Following advice to liberalize its economy by lowering tariffs, domestically produced rice was displaced by cheaper subsidised rice from the United States. The Food and Agriculture Organization describes this liberalization process as being the removal of barriers to trade and a simplification of tariffs, which lowers costs to consumers and promotes efficiency among producers.[44]

Opening up Haiti's economy granted consumers access to food at a lower cost; allowing foreign producers to compete for the Haitian market drove down the price of rice. However, for Haitian rice farmers without access to subsidies, the downward pressure on prices led to a decline in profits. Subsidies received by American rice farmers, plus increased efficiencies, made it impossible for their Haitian counterparts to compete.[45][46] According to Oxfam and the International Monetary Fund, tariffs on imports fell from 50 percent to three percent in 1995 and the nation is currently importing 80 percent of the rice it consumes.[47][48]

The United States Department of Agriculture notes that since 1980, rice production in Haiti has been largely unchanged, while consumption on the other hand, is roughly eight times what it was in that same year.[49] Haiti is among the top three consumers of long grain milled rice produced in the United States.[50]

As rice farmers struggled to compete, many migrated from rural to urban areas in search of alternative economic opportunities.[51]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy#Haiti_and_US_rice_imports
 


http://www.climate4you.com/images/MSU%20RSS%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1979%20AndCO2.gif


Diagram showing the Remote Sensing Systems (RSS) monthly global surface air temperature estimate (blue) and the monthly atmospheric CO2 content (red) according to the Mauna Loa Observatory, Hawaii. The Mauna Loa data series begins in March 1958, and 1958 has therefore been chosen as starting year for the diagram. Reconstructions of past atmospheric CO2 concentrations (before 1958) are not incorporated in this diagram, as such past CO2 values are derived by other means (ice cores, stomata, or older measurements using different methodology), and therefore are not directly comparable with modern atmospheric measurements. The dotted grey line indicates the approximate, overall linear temperature development, and the boxes in the lower part of the diagram indicate the relation between atmospheric CO2 and global surface air temperature, negative, positive or none. Last month shown: April 2017. Last diagram update: 15 May 2017.


 
Not their fault. Winters just aren't cold enough to grow nice dense wood. Was reading a comparison between BC cedar shakes and Georgia shingles. Why would you think that nice warm weather is good wood growing weather. For construction purposes.

Now they are bitching the 800 some odd million is a subsidy. Yet the US pays out 20 billion in subsidies to the farming industry. Even none farming corporations get a share.

Haiti is an excellent example of a developing country negatively affected by agricultural subsidies in the developed world. Haiti is a nation with the capacity to produce rice and was at one time self-sufficient in meeting its own needs.[41][42] At present, Haiti does not produce enough to feed its people; 60 percent of the food consumed in the country is imported.[43] Following advice to liberalize its economy by lowering tariffs, domestically produced rice was displaced by cheaper subsidised rice from the United States. The Food and Agriculture Organization describes this liberalization process as being the removal of barriers to trade and a simplification of tariffs, which lowers costs to consumers and promotes efficiency among producers.[44]

Opening up Haiti's economy granted consumers access to food at a lower cost; allowing foreign producers to compete for the Haitian market drove down the price of rice. However, for Haitian rice farmers without access to subsidies, the downward pressure on prices led to a decline in profits. Subsidies received by American rice farmers, plus increased efficiencies, made it impossible for their Haitian counterparts to compete.[45][46] According to Oxfam and the International Monetary Fund, tariffs on imports fell from 50 percent to three percent in 1995 and the nation is currently importing 80 percent of the rice it consumes.[47][48]

The United States Department of Agriculture notes that since 1980, rice production in Haiti has been largely unchanged, while consumption on the other hand, is roughly eight times what it was in that same year.[49] Haiti is among the top three consumers of long grain milled rice produced in the United States.[50]

As rice farmers struggled to compete, many migrated from rural to urban areas in search of alternative economic opportunities.[51]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy#Haiti_and_US_rice_imports
What's that got to do with Canadian softwood. It isn't subsidized
 
What's that got to do with Canadian softwood. It isn't subsidized

It shows the damage that subsidizing agriculture can do. Along with domestic overproduction, environmental degradation and inflated land prices.

Our dairy marketing board ties production to consumption. Tax payers are not expected to pay farmers to not produce. The US pays out 20 billion a year on agricultural subsidies. No politician has the guts to go up against the farmers or mega-corp farming conglomerates. Very organized and connected group. The same can be said about our farmers. Not a good political move to piss them off. Especially on lower population rural constituencies.
 
Not their fault. Winters just aren't cold enough to grow nice dense wood. Was reading a comparison between BC cedar shakes and Georgia shingles. Why would you think that nice warm weather is good wood growing weather. For construction purposes.

Now they are bitching the 800 some odd million is a subsidy. Yet the US pays out 20 billion in subsidies to the farming industry. Even none farming corporations get a share.

Haiti is an excellent example of a developing country negatively affected by agricultural subsidies in the developed world. Haiti is a nation with the capacity to produce rice and was at one time self-sufficient in meeting its own needs.[41][42] At present, Haiti does not produce enough to feed its people; 60 percent of the food consumed in the country is imported.[43] Following advice to liberalize its economy by lowering tariffs, domestically produced rice was displaced by cheaper subsidised rice from the United States. The Food and Agriculture Organization describes this liberalization process as being the removal of barriers to trade and a simplification of tariffs, which lowers costs to consumers and promotes efficiency among producers.[44]

Opening up Haiti's economy granted consumers access to food at a lower cost; allowing foreign producers to compete for the Haitian market drove down the price of rice. However, for Haitian rice farmers without access to subsidies, the downward pressure on prices led to a decline in profits. Subsidies received by American rice farmers, plus increased efficiencies, made it impossible for their Haitian counterparts to compete.[45][46] According to Oxfam and the International Monetary Fund, tariffs on imports fell from 50 percent to three percent in 1995 and the nation is currently importing 80 percent of the rice it consumes.[47][48]

The United States Department of Agriculture notes that since 1980, rice production in Haiti has been largely unchanged, while consumption on the other hand, is roughly eight times what it was in that same year.[49] Haiti is among the top three consumers of long grain milled rice produced in the United States.[50]

As rice farmers struggled to compete, many migrated from rural to urban areas in search of alternative economic opportunities.[51]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy#Haiti_and_US_rice_imports

The economic principles that result in subsidies killing off a competing country's profits and productivity is true for Haiti, but not the US?

We should stop subsidizing rice to benefit the Haitians and allow Canadian subsidies to help the Canadians? What if we just decide to be selfish and do what benefits Americans because that's what Canada and every other country on the planet does?
 
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