submission forced or coaxed

I have a new sub that told me her ridiculous orgasms didn’t happen until I had taken complete control. She struggled to orgasm her whole life. Like so many women, she was just in her head about everything.

I had already fucked her hard but it wasn’t until she was tied up tight and I had my hard cock penetrating her throat, making sure I had total control over her head and arms.
She told me after that it was at that moment that she knew she had no choices in anything whatsoever and was truly helpless. Her mind emptied and when I told her she was allowed to cum and I gave her access to the vibrator, she suddenly started orgasming like crazy. Something she had never done with a man before.

In response to the question of forced or coaxed. I’m not sure it is binary. I absolutely love getting in my subs head and knowing her body and desires possibly more than she does. I’m responding to her body in real time. I’m testing what is good for her or not. Is it pain? Humiliation? Degradation? To feel used? To be tied up? All of the above? To serve me?

I talk with her and try to dig it up, even if she doesn’t know. And it’s a process and not just “forced.” But it is not a long process and sometimes you have to force because that’s what is needed. And sometimes you don’t.
 
I have a new sub that told me her ridiculous orgasms didn’t happen until I had taken complete control. She struggled to orgasm her whole life. Like so many women, she was just in her head about everything.

I had already fucked her hard but it wasn’t until she was tied up tight and I had my hard cock penetrating her throat, making sure I had total control over her head and arms.
She told me after that it was at that moment that she knew she had no choices in anything whatsoever and was truly helpless. Her mind emptied and when I told her she was allowed to cum and I gave her access to the vibrator, she suddenly started orgasming like crazy. Something she had never done with a man before.

In response to the question of forced or coaxed. I’m not sure it is binary. I absolutely love getting in my subs head and knowing her body and desires possibly more than she does. I’m responding to her body in real time. I’m testing what is good for her or not. Is it pain? Humiliation? Degradation? To feel used? To be tied up? All of the above? To serve me?

I talk with her and try to dig it up, even if she doesn’t know. And it’s a process and not just “forced.” But it is not a long process and sometimes you have to force because that’s what is needed. And sometimes you don’t.
I agree. It's not simply binary.
Submission and control has a lot of range in the activities that create/promote the dynamic. The activity or sequence that is just the way to get in your subs head during one session isn't the thing for the next. In addition, what you or your sub wants sexually generally evolves over time. What is unthinkable now may well be craved at some future time
 
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I've never been part of an official D/s relationship. I'm just a submissive person in all facets of my life, so when I'm with someone/s there is no coaxing or forcing my submission--sexually or otherwise. It just is and I can't help it. Does anyone else feel this way?
 
I've never been part of an official D/s relationship. I'm just a submissive person in all facets of my life, so when I'm with someone/s there is no coaxing or forcing my submission--sexually or otherwise. It just is and I can't help it. Does anyone else feel this way?
ABSOLUTELY!
 
When I was in my 20s my gf at the time had some taboo fantasies. She gave me permission to surprise her with a forceful experience. I will admit that being young and inexperienced I didn’t exercise this option. I just worried that somehow it could be misconstrued.
 
For the most part and in most instances, submission isn't forced or coaxed.

Submissives are submissive because they are submissive. It's really is as simple as that. They aren't being forced against their will (or they shouldn't be). They're giving in to their most nature and primitive desires.

In relationships. It really depends on the dynamic.

Kinks and limits within the parameter of a BDSM relationship are usually agreed upon. So they're set in stone.

CNC (Consensual Non Consensual) is forced. But it's consensual, so it's all good.

I would say that CNC is the closest thing to "forced" of "coaxed" you'll get.
This is a great response! I cannot be forced against my will. The dynamics of my relationship is pretty simple. I want to do what she wants. Our limits are well established because we talk about these things, extensively.
Within our relationship and established limits, there is nothing I won't do for her.
 
Hmmm, maybe combined with public groping. A hand on your breast, another in your panties, feeling your wetness. Tasting it on their fingers. Then lifting your skirt and fucking you right there, in an alley, with a few onlookers….
Would be wonderful
 
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