Something about gay men that I wonder from time to time

KillerMuffin

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I know that a lot of lesbians get really sick and tired--at least at some point--of hetero men who get all freaky nutso over watching two girls together. I can't tell you the number of rants I've seen on the subject of how it's not a lesbian story if men join in.

The hetero female fascination with two men together is one of those mainstream under the rug things. I do wonder if gay men find it uncomfortable or creepy to know that they're objects of female fantasies, especially in twosomes?
 
KillerMuffin said:
I know that a lot of lesbians get really sick and tired--at least at some point--of hetero men who get all freaky nutso over watching two girls together. I can't tell you the number of rants I've seen on the subject of how it's not a lesbian story if men join in.

The hetero female fascination with two men together is one of those mainstream under the rug things. I do wonder if gay men find it uncomfortable or creepy to know that they're objects of female fantasies, especially in twosomes?

I don't mind a bit, in fact, I am probably quilty of encouraging it.
 
i don't know about anyone else but i love being able to tease you.

:p
 
well do gay men have to deal with women saying they are really gay men trapped in a womans body ? :)
 
sexy-girl said:
well do gay men have to deal with women saying they are really gay men trapped in a womans body ? :)


Actually, I have heard that a time or two, but I always figured it was tongue in cheek.
 
sexy-girl said:
well do gay men have to deal with women saying they are really gay men trapped in a womans body ? :)

All the time.

In fact if it wasn't for my love of making out with guys and kissing them and tickling them on thier tummies and rubbing thier temples when my tongue is trailing down thier body to suck and suck and suck on thier glorious magnificent thrusting hard cocks I would so have a girlfirend.
 
I do get annoyed by the eroticization of lesbian sex. What's shown in Hustler and Club is totally posed. Argh, I'm not coherent enough right now to organize my thoughts on this, but it is something that bugs me. Maybe more later, maybe in its own thread.
 
Etoile said:
I do get annoyed by the eroticization of lesbian sex. What's shown in Hustler and Club is totally posed. Argh, I'm not coherent enough right now to organize my thoughts on this, but it is something that bugs me. Maybe more later, maybe in its own thread.


we've had some good discussions on the GB about it ... in girl/girl porn the "lesbian" girls will always be angled in such a way that they are presenting an invitation for the male viewer to join in

im not really into male gay porn but the guys in those pictures are nearly always angled into each other
 
sexy-girl said:
we've had some good discussions on the GB about it ... in girl/girl porn the "lesbian" girls will always be angled in such a way that they are presenting an invitation for the male viewer to join in

im not really into male gay porn but the guys in those pictures are nearly always angled into each other

We like angling into each other.;)
 
sexy-girl said:
we've had some good discussions on the GB about it ... in girl/girl porn the "lesbian" girls will always be angled in such a way that they are presenting an invitation for the male viewer to join in

im not really into male gay porn but the guys in those pictures are nearly always angled into each other

Exactly....they do that because they think we in the male population woulnd't enjoy looking at it if we didn't think they'd ever let us join in.

What they don't realize is that if the girls were truly into it, it would be so much more of a turn on. Everyone wants what they can't have.
 
Queersetti said:
We like angling into each other.;)

believe me so do we ... not that you can tell from the pictures :)


oh21 if they were really into it they wouldn't be letting anyone photograph it :p
 
sexy-girl said:

oh21 if they were really into it they wouldn't be letting anyone photograph it :p

LOL I mean they could just try and make most of it look a little less fake :)
 
When I'm really into something I like getting out the camera.

I don't mind if someone jacks off to what he thinks my life is like, as long as I don't have to include him in it.

Likewise, I don't mind if someone finds a sense of psychic home or satisfaction in my life, my inner circles, or whatever, based on *gaining an understanding of how it is*

That said, I've met men who quip meaninglessly about being a lesbian in a guy's body...annoying...and I've met guys in a state of gender...whatever...who might say something like that and mean it.

I'm more than your average fag hag. I have experienced a longing, a profound longing around gay male sexuality, as I know it to be. I don't want to transition. I don't want to intrude on male space, male leather space, or leathermen. However, they occupy a huge niche of my fantasy life, my admiration is colored by an ongoing erotic pull. I try to keep it respectful, but it's not something I am going to deny or try to analyze away either.

I'm certainly not going to argue that none of the women licking one another in Penthouse or Hustler are enjoying it or not enjoying it. Could none of them possibly be lesbians?
 
for me, personally, it is one of the biggest turn ons ever to watch gay men.
 
Netzach said:
When I'm really into something I like getting out the camera.

I don't mind if someone jacks off to what he thinks my life is like, as long as I don't have to include him in it.

Likewise, I don't mind if someone finds a sense of psychic home or satisfaction in my life, my inner circles, or whatever, based on *gaining an understanding of how it is*

That said, I've met men who quip meaninglessly about being a lesbian in a guy's body...annoying...and I've met guys in a state of gender...whatever...who might say something like that and mean it.

I'm more than your average fag hag. I have experienced a longing, a profound longing around gay male sexuality, as I know it to be. I don't want to transition. I don't want to intrude on male space, male leather space, or leathermen. However, they occupy a huge niche of my fantasy life, my admiration is colored by an ongoing erotic pull. I try to keep it respectful, but it's not something I am going to deny or try to analyze away either.

I'm certainly not going to argue that none of the women licking one another in Penthouse or Hustler are enjoying it or not enjoying it. Could none of them possibly be lesbians?

I have always heard that a very large percentage of women working in the straight porn industry are lesbians. I don't know how true that is, but I am sure there are some.

But even if they are really lesbians, the product is still going to be staged in such a way as to meet the expectations of the male audience.
 
As 'Setti knows, I am guilty of this.

As an art form I think the female body is much more lovely than a mans. The flow of it is just wonderful.

As a sex object, espeically in porn, I'm more "Can you move out of the way please?" The quickly bobbing titty esp annoys me and the fake squished faces.

Plus, the guys in straight porn are damn ugly. I know it's so they don't overwhelm the straight guys in the theater or on the couch, but geez....

So I much more enjoy gay porn. The men are handsome or actually pretty and I get twice of much of what I like to see and I can fant about joining in myself.
 
KillerMuffin said:
I know that a lot of lesbians get really sick and tired--at least at some point--of hetero men who get all freaky nutso over watching two girls together. I can't tell you the number of rants I've seen on the subject of how it's not a lesbian story if men join in.

The hetero female fascination with two men together is one of those mainstream under the rug things. I do wonder if gay men find it uncomfortable or creepy to know that they're objects of female fantasies, especially in twosomes?

It is exceedingly weird to me that until recently, i thought i was the only female ever to be turned on by the thought of two gay men enjoying one another. There is nothing (for me) like going to my favorite club and covertly watching 2 beautiful (and by that i mean REAL) men kissing, hugging or cuddling one another. It makes me warm (and sometimes in a completely sexual way). My r/l gay friends (which include my cousin and his lover) think that i am just too sensual by nature and so the sexes involved mean less to me than the watching...but a hetero couple does not "get to me" in the same way...nor do 2 men get to me in the same way as watching 2 women...(or being part of the 2 women scenario)...(did any of that make any sense??) Mayhap i am just a peeping tom(ette)..Who knows...

anyway...i deposited my 2 cents for what it's worth...
PET:rose:
 
sexy-girl said:
well do gay men have to deal with women saying they are really gay men trapped in a womans body ? :)

LOL That's cute. It's a good question, too. Do many women say they're "a gay man trapped in a woman's body"?


~Kenzie :kiss:
 
LustiRusti said:
LOL That's cute. It's a good question, too. Do many women say they're "a gay man trapped in a woman's body"?


~Kenzie :kiss:

That's funny!

I said that to 'Setti just about two weeks ago!
 
I'd meet you half way, Sweetums!:kiss:

And while I enjoy taking turns, I'd be a top just to keep you!
 
I have actually used the line in a joking manner about being a bisexual man trapped in a woman's body... a little variant.. and actually if you think about it it has really no point.
 
From my point of view as a bisexual man, watching 2 men together is an extremely common female fantasy that I have been happy to engage in fulfilling a number of times.
Perhaps fully gay men may object, but I sure don't.
I don't think female interest in m/m sex and male interest in f/f is really the same type of thing. The overall atmosphere of exploitation is not there.
 
It kind of bothers me when my straight friends go crazy when they see two women kiss. It just makes me think that they are immature and a little childish. I have heard that some women like the idea of two men kissing but never believed it until a GF told me she liked it.
 
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